The H Man Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) Still waiting for The H Man to impart his hot air of knowledge. Unless it was all bull of course. Sorry Steve for taking so long to reply, but been busy washing my anorak and polishing my pin badges! No hot air or bull from me, been a mate of Phil's for many years and I can assure you and everyone else that has been taking a pop at him over the Compton situation that it was 100% nothing to do with him! I'm not saying anything else on the matter and if you choose to continue to point the finger at him then so be it! Edited November 1, 2014 by The H Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Sorry Steve for taking so long to reply, but been busy washing my anorak and polishing my pin badges! No hot air or bull from me, been a mate of Phil's for many years and I can assure you and everyone else that has been taking a pop at him over the Compton situation that it was 100% nothing to do with him! I'm not saying anything else on the matter and if you choose to continue to point the finger at him then so be it! if hes a mate, maybe you can ask him why everything is a secret then?? Or why nothing is ever transparent.It would go a long way if those who make or rubber stamp decisions, at least explained them when they go against the rules or ethics, someone has to take responsibility somewhere along the line surely. Is that asking too much?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Even if Morris did sell out as the season went on even if it was to save his own skin with in the sport. I would say that better to have Morris on the inside of the Sport than outside.....so what does it matter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Even if Morris did sell out as the season went on even if it was to save his own skin with in the sport. I would say that better to have Morris on the inside of the Sport than outside.....so what does it matter? What's the point of being on the inside, if all your good for, is taking the can when things go pear shape. To everyone in the outside world, Phil Morris has lost all his integrity and everything he stood for. And you think being on the inside is worth that ?????? If he was any man at all he would stand up for his beliefs. Why do you think the sport is in the state it's in, ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 What's the point of being on the inside, if all your good for, is taking the can when things go pear shape. To everyone in the outside world, Phil Morris has lost all his integrity and everything he stood for. And you think being on the inside is worth that ?????? If he was any man at all he would stand up for his beliefs. Why do you think the sport is in the state it's in, ????? I don't think Phil Morris can be blamed for al the ills of the sport. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 A certain past promoter said that speedway is a "nest of vipers"! I would have thought Phil doesn't want to harm the integrity of the sport any more than it does to itself anyway by spouting vitriol? Hopefully people will believe his mate above ...........I think I do ........ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 (edited) too much self interest and if you scratch my back il scratch yours going on.... also dont forget the short termism of the promoters anually changing the rules to suit one year its the saviour the next its scrapped....... do the promoters realise the damage , ... Edited November 1, 2014 by heathen chemistry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 A certain past promoter said that speedway is a "nest of vipers"! I would have thought Phil doesn't want to harm the integrity of the sport any more than it does to itself anyway by spouting vitriol? Hopefully people will believe his mate above ...........I think I do ........ I certainly wouldn't stand by & take the blame for others if they were the decision makers though & you don't have to damage the sport by " Telling the truth". You keep quiet & we'll look after you would be followed by "You can stick that where the sum don't shine" if it was me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 well last season it wasnt done in a fair way coventry were said to have first pick , in actual fact they had first pick of what was left teams that didnt have a decent reserve suffered poole who won the league were to have the last pick when in actual fact they had first pick with newman how can that be classed as fair? Spot on ...said it a Million times you have a fair draft or you don't .The moment you start letting teams use there own assets the draft is void and pointless . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 well last season it wasnt done in a fair way coventry were said to have first pick , in actual fact they had first pick of what was left teams that didnt have a decent reserve suffered poole who won the league were to have the last pick when in actual fact they had first pick with newman how can that be classed as fair? Probably because that was the only way Poole would go for it and I bet he got a damn site more than £50 a point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KN1 Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Probably because that was the only way Poole would go for it and I bet he got a damn site more than £50 a point he was on the same as other draft riders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 I thought kings lynn were announced first at the draft and somehow named two riders 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 1, 2014 Report Share Posted November 1, 2014 Sorry Steve for taking so long to reply, but been busy washing my anorak and polishing my pin badges! No hot air or bull from me, been a mate of Phil's for many years and I can assure you and everyone else that has been taking a pop at him over the Compton situation that it was 100% nothing to do with him! I'm not saying anything else on the matter and if you choose to continue to point the finger at him then so be it! The silence is deafening from the Morris camp so its really open to interpretation who carries the can over the Compton farce. As a `mate of Phil`s` you obviously have info that hasn't been broadcast yet and if he is 100% not involved then he is either carrying the can for it or trying to protect those who did. Not sure which is worse. However at present his actions look culpable. (although your `inside knowledge` raises suspicions as to what exactly went on). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 Perhaps rather than a draft list all eligible riders should have an average to work with, those with little experience a 3 and the likes of Newman etc their EL or PL converted average, then positions 6 & 7 a max of say 7.5, Top 5 say 34 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 they probably thinking up a scheme that can be manipulated again i posted earlier that they should use a piece of computer software that calculates the draft list so no opinion can be inserted .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 they probably thinking up a scheme that can be manipulated again i posted earlier that they should use a piece of computer software that calculates the draft list so no opinion can be inserted .. Far to sensible, what would they do with all the Brown envelopes and spare bricks lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMW Posted November 2, 2014 Report Share Posted November 2, 2014 (edited) he was on the same as other draft riders That is a little ambiguous and open to interpretation! Edited November 2, 2014 by TMW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted November 3, 2014 Report Share Posted November 3, 2014 The whole FTR sheme has to have a major re-think this year.What the bodged together this year was a total farce with riders that had already riden in the EL at reserve, so how come they could be included in the list. The only fact that stands out with these young British riders that have riden eith in the EL or are riding in the PL and doing well is the fact that the promoter will not take the plunge and give them a place in the 1-5 place in the team structure. They would rather bring in some obscure overseas riders than give our lads a bite at the bullet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 Interesting comments from Morris in the SS this week confirming he has resigned as fast track co-ordinator. He mentions the `Lee Payne` rule (riders ranked 25 or lower can be replaced by anybody 25 or below) yet no mention of the Benji Compton rule that saw his ranking fall rapidly with no apparent reason. So Phil, who was responsible for that? Never mind getting slated `on the internet by fans` because the Lee Payne rule wasnt made public, more are more concerned with the shocking way one riders falls down a draft list so rapidly. Looks like no one is going to answer that one eh? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizzer Posted November 6, 2014 Report Share Posted November 6, 2014 I'm happy my grade of Compton was correct, (I will hold my hand up and say possibly a little low to start). The month of July after injury lay off he did 21 heats in the NL and won 2? (Not hot form against NL opposition). The dropping of the grade proved correct judgement from my part as 13 points in 29 riders for Poole (inc 7 points due to 3 finishers in heats) leave a total of 6 points scored in 29 heats. people make no comment on Simon lambert due to bad form dropping 7 places in one month or Lewis Rose due to good form climbing 10 places in one month? The rule that was made first week of May, I specifically asked the BSPA/SCB to also let the fans know of this new rule and not just Promoters and Team managers (which was not done). Benji Compton was available to every club form 29th July until 6th Aug as a replacement for any draft rider at 6/7 so if he was such an attractive signing how come no other clubs signed him in this period? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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