g13webb Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 There has to be some kind of ranking of the category 1's to determine an order of selection of the category 2's. Why does the riders in pot A have to be ranked. Surely the final league positions are enough to determine the picking order. Why complicate the system by ranking the riders. We have been assured that all rider are of similar ability, so what benefit is gained by ranking them.....??????? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Surely the order of pick is down to the teams ranking Why does the riders in pot A have to be ranked. Surely the final league positions are enough to determine the picking order. Why complicate the system by ranking the riders. We have been assured that all rider are of similar ability, so what benefit is gained by ranking them.....??????? Group 1 is the only group of riders that need ranking, because those rankings determine when you pick from group 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Why does the riders in pot A have to be ranked. Surely the final league positions are enough to determine the picking order. Why complicate the system by ranking the riders. We have been assured that all rider are of similar ability, so what benefit is gained by ranking them.....??????? They have to be ranked as clubs have the option to protect assets. It wouldn't be fair on Leicester to have first pick but half the grade A riders not available as they've been protected and then get last pick in round 2. Grade A picks should determine the order of picks for round 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Nowhere in the official release does it mention ranking the riders. Once clubs have protected their rider, the rest of the selection will be done on league position. For example, if Poole choose to select Newman then they will pick last in Group B. I don't know why some are trying to make it more complicated than it is?! The only 2 things we are waiting for are 1) the final list of riders; and 2) which of them are in Group A. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 So are you saying that Leicester get first choice of both categories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 I've heard a rumour of at least two 'protected' riders who would not agree to being on the list unless they could definitely ride for their own track!! Who is the other rider to go with Kyle?:-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 24, 2014 Report Share Posted November 24, 2014 Nowhere in the official release does it mention ranking the riders. Once clubs have protected their rider, the rest of the selection will be done on league position. For example, if Poole choose to select Newman then they will pick last in Group B. I don't know why some are trying to make it more complicated than it is?! The only 2 things we are waiting for are 1) the final list of riders; and 2) which of them are in Group A. It seems relatively easy to understand as far as i`m concerned! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Leicester 100% have 1st pick in the grade A riders but then depending who they pick will have a lower position pick in the grade b riders . But in my view what selection in the grade B riders Leicester get is irrelevant because i feel they will protect Josh Bates as a 2014 squad member . So are you saying that Leicester get first choice of both categories? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Nowhere in the official release does it mention ranking the riders. Once clubs have protected their rider, the rest of the selection will be done on league position. For example, if Poole choose to select Newman then they will pick last in Group B. Why should Poole have the last grade B choice if Newman isn't the best grade A rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Why should Poole have the last grade B choice if Newman isn't the best grade A rider? If Poole choose Newman (assuming he has accepted?!) as their protected Grade A rider, then the choice of Grade B riders will be done based upon the reversed EL league positions ie Poole with last pick. If Newman chooses not to be in the draft, then Poole will not have a protected rider, so will pick last in the Grade A selection and then first in Grade B. Edited November 25, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC2 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 If Poole choose Newman (assuming he has accepted?!) as their protected Grade A rider, then the choice of Grade B riders will be done based upon the reversed EL league positions ie Poole with last pick. So the grade A choice is league positions reversed & so is the grade B choice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Because Kyle Newman was the stand out FTR all season . It's a matter of opinion if he was or not but it's funny seeing all Poole fans crying because they can't fiddle the FTR system like they do riders averages & get them reduced to suit etc Why should Poole have the last grade B choice if Newman isn't the best grade A rider? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Because Kyle Newman was the stand out FTR all season . It's a matter of opinion if he was or not but it's funny seeing all Poole fans crying because they can't fiddle the FTR system like they do riders averages & get them reduced to suit etc I've not seen any Poole fans crying. They're just explaining how things work while others bitch, moan and talk up Newman as some sort of super star that he is not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionking Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I've seen a lot of Poole fans moaning over various topics & forums about Kyle Newman is one of the weaker grade A riders & that winning the league should give them 1st pick as a privilege & reward on grade B riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 TWO IDEAS ONE = Any team that protect a Grade A rider are doing so because they are one of the best in that group and know by protecting him, no other team like Leicester or Belle Vue can select them. So as the teams that pick early in the first pick only get to pick from what's left, the teams that have a protected rider in Group A get the last picks in Group B. TWO = All riders are placed in two hats and who you get is sheer luck NOTE = Surely Sky Sports could do an hours programme showing teams collecting trophies and Rider of the Year Awards and do 5he draft in this programme ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 When are the groups due to be confirmed as they were still waiting for some to accept the request to be in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 When are the groups due to be confirmed as they were still waiting for some to accept the request to be in the draft They must already be confirmed because the draw is tomorrow! Guess we will all find out when the list is published before the draw in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Only need confirming on the day in case anyone withdraws from the list or a rider has to change groups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 They'll probably tell us who gets drafted to which club as it happens, but won't tell us which riders are on which list, or the actual rules for the draft. Remember last year? They used twitter to tell us which riders had gone to which club, but never explained why King's Lynn were seemingly able to protect 2 assets or why the picks seemed to be being made in a different order to what we were told it would be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) They'll probably tell us who gets drafted to which club as it happens, but won't tell us which riders are on which list, or the actual rules for the draft. Remember last year? They used twitter to tell us which riders had gone to which club, but never explained why King's Lynn were seemingly able to protect 2 assets or why the picks seemed to be being made in a different order to what we were told it would be. They have already tweeted that the confirmed list will be announced before the draft as soon as all riders have replied. So about 11.55am tomorrow I guess!! They will then tweet each rider as drawn and then a complete list of the 8 pairings later on - together with the guests. Edited November 25, 2014 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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