2ndbendbeerhut Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ok so we know that Ashley Birks has signed for Sheffield so rules out Swindon, but does it? Could they still pick him then switch picks in round 2 with whoever he actually rides for? Also i believe Lewis Blackbird is an Ipswich asset, so what happens if Swindon pick him, then in the coming weeks he signs for his parent club? Or will this happen and then riders swap after the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ok so we know that Ashley Birks has signed for Sheffield so rules out Swindon, but does it? Could they still pick him then switch picks in round 2 with whoever he actually rides for? Also i believe Lewis Blackbird is an Ipswich asset, so what happens if Swindon pick him, then in the coming weeks he signs for his parent club? Or will this happen and then riders swap after the draft? I doubt Blackbird would remain available come time for Swindon to pick. As one of the top averaged TFR from this season i would imagine he would be snapped up by those with 1st picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Must admit it seemed odd to me when there was a likleyhood of Jason returning to The Aces but this seems to have done the trick. Normal service and all that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penny Cross Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 I'm in two minds about this. It allows riders/club to stay together and keep familiarity - one of the complaints often made no this forum is the merry-go-round of riders. But equally, I didn't expect it to be this way, I assumed we'd lost Garrity, the fact I through this would be the case suggests it what I considered most fair. I do think that the first round riders should all be ranked, and the 2nd round should be picked in reverse order of your first round riders ranking. It seems totally unfair Poole seem to get to have 1st pick in both rounds. They don't. According to Rosco on page 3 of this weeks Speedway Star. IF Poole pick Newman, which is almost certain, they would have one of the last 2nd round picks. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 With the protected rider rule in place allowing the top team from last season first pick,second place second pick etc in the second round makes the whole draft system a joke.It makes more sense to keep it like last year where your second pick is decided on the position of your first pick in the first round draw. How can a system that allows the top 3 teams from last year to keep 3 of last years top 4 riders, and then go on to have the first three picks in the second draw sorry but i think its compleat bullsh#t. They don't. According to Rosco on page 3 of this weeks Speedway Star. IF Poole pick Newman, which is almost certain, they would have one of the last 2nd round picks. Thanks penny just seen your post this makes way more sense than the report that Link sport printed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foamfence Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Riders would have to be genuinely missing as is currently the case. So riding PL or injured. That's not going to change. I'm just pointing out that having Carl Wilkinson as a possible back up for draft reserves is better than having to use Brendon Johnson, Matt Williamson or a blank to replace the likes of Newman, Auty, Garrity and Worrall. Teams have to be competitive, meetings have to interest fans or they won't turn up. If that means Wilkinson gets the odd meeting rather than seeing uncompetitive meetings I'm all for it. I'd be against him being in the draft proper but he's not so no need to worry. Whats worse is the likes of Palovara, Edberg, Fox, Nielsen (Simon), Barrett, Dilger, Benko, Konopka and Covatti have been and could be reserves again in 2015 in the PL, so Carl Wilkinson getting a few meetings in the EL is nothing as 1 it'll be a 1 off (maybe a little more but I bet no more than 6 meetings, I doubt he'll even get 3) and 2 he is British and has raced for over 10 seasons now, possibly 15. Sorry! We'll have to disagree and leave it at that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) They don't. According to Rosco on page 3 of this weeks Speedway Star. IF Poole pick Newman, which is almost certain, they would have one of the last 2nd round picks. So are the Grade A riders going to be graded? Andy Warren the guy in charge of the Linksport website has just tweeted 'as things stand' Poole get first pick. I read that as it depends on who they pick in the Grade A draft. Edited November 20, 2014 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 It would make more sense if the riders where told which teams they would be riding for. Put all the riders names into a hat and draw them out and put their name to one of the teams. No picking the best riders to boost your teams results to make sure that you are top of the league. Because this year the reserves went a big way to deciding the top 4 teams. Make it simple and what you get is who you keep for the season unless unable to ride due to injury or fixture clashes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therefused Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 It would make more sense if the riders where told which teams they would be riding for. Put all the riders names into a hat and draw them out and put their name to one of the teams. No picking the best riders to boost your teams results to make sure that you are top of the league. Because this year the reserves went a big way to deciding the top 4 teams. Make it simple and what you get is who you keep for the season unless unable to ride due to injury or fixture clashes. this is the most ridiculous suggestion yet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 why do poole get first pick in round 2 when effectively thay had first pick in round 1 if they stick with newman last year they had last pick and chose lee smart , so whats changed this year , or was it done as a favour if he dropped his idea of having only one draft rider .... vatcher used to run pooles nl team ......so obviously no inside favours then this year as if...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 why do poole get first pick in round 2 when effectively thay had first pick in round 1 if they stick with newman last year they had last pick and chose lee smart , so whats changed this year , or was it done as a favour if he dropped his idea of having only one draft rider .... vatcher used to run pooles nl team ......so obviously no inside favours then this year as if...... As its been explained to me today - If, as expected, Poole select Newman as their protected Grade A rider, they will get last pick in group B. If Coventry select Garrity as their protected Grade A rider, they will get the penultimate pick in Group B. This presupposes that Newman accepts his place in the draft; and that Coventry don't choose to protect a Grade B rider first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 What would happen in respect of order of pick if say poole or kingss lynn do not opt to protect either newman or kerr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 What happens if a club buys one of these riders before the draft ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Not sure if I got this right but does this mean Poole get the first pick in both rounds . Newman the best rider then first pick in the second group ? . This draft looks so much better the first pool of riders much more even this year but again it's by this assets crap making it unfair . Just make this a simple draft . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Not sure if I got this right but does this mean Poole get the first pick in both rounds . Newman the best rider then first pick in the second group ? . This draft looks so much better the first pool of riders much more even this year but again it's by this assets crap making it unfair . Just make this a simple draft . 5 riders in the draft list have a higher PL average than Newman so he's not the best rider in the draft list. The system set in place seems to make sense but it could have been made simpler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Ace Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Apparently the draft will work same as last year. The way to do it is protect the grade rider as there is plenty of quality riders in the a grade list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 5 riders in the draft list have a higher PL average than Newman so he's not the best rider in the draft list. The system set in place seems to make sense but it could have been made simpler. Kyle was the standout performer last season in the Elite League so the Premier lge averages shouldn't matter a jot to any of the riders. The main problem will be how it's graded as Kyle should be No 1 & I bet he isn't which will be a joke. A decision in November will have a major impact on next season & I just hope for once it's main "In the best interests of the sport" as the sport needs it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 If Newman is graded at number 1 in the Grade A list and Poole pick him then Poole will have last choice in the Grade B picks. Kyle was the standout performer last season in the Elite League so the Premier lge averages shouldn't matter a jot to any of the riders. The main problem will be how it's graded as Kyle should be No 1 & I bet he isn't which will be a joke. A decision in November will have a major impact on next season & I just hope for once it's main "In the best interests of the sport" as the sport needs it. To be fair Josh Auty should be number one. He has had more EL experience than the rest and competed more than adequately in a EL 1-5 before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 (edited) 5 riders in the draft list have a higher PL average than Newman so he's not the best rider in the draft list. Shame it's not the PL otherwise you might have a point . Edited November 20, 2014 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 20, 2014 Report Share Posted November 20, 2014 Not sure if I got this right but does this mean Poole get the first pick in both rounds . Newman the best rider then first pick in the second group ? . This draft looks so much better the first pool of riders much more even this year but again it's by this assets crap making it unfair . Just make this a simple draft . You haven't, try reading others posts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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