Ftd Reserves

[Steve0]

But many teams have protected riders so who goes to the bottom

. The team that finished top - it's that simple!

[foreverblue]

. The team that finished top - it's that simple!

Why should the top team be penalised

[orion]

But many teams have protected riders so who goes to the bottom

And ? that is there choice . Somehow it's worked out that Poole last years champions and richest club have got the first pick in grade one and second pick in grade two .

 

Think Wolves and Kings Lynn have done the worst out of the draft

[Steve0]

Why should the top team be penalised

don't you understand my previous posts? In answer to your question - To be fairer on the teams that finish lower down the league!!

[YerRopes]

Don't pretend to understand the rules of this draft, however, who has benefited the most...

 

Yes you've guessed it those forever 'cheating' Poole Pirates..

 

Shocking really...how on earth did Poole get 2nd pick in tier 2 after ring-fencing Newman ? Surely they should have had last pick in tier 2 as 'Champions'

 

A total farce and a complete disgrace...

[DC2]

Why should the top team be penalised

 

 

Perversely, I agree. What's the point in pretending it's been anything but cheque-book speedway for the last ten years with Poole always paying more to get the best?

 

Why should the draft be any different????

[foreverblue]

don't you understand my previous posts? In answer to your question - To be fairer on the teams that finish lower down the league!!

Why should the lower teams benefit, perhaps qpr would like to have some chelsea players!

[John Leslie]

There's nothing wrong with the rules of the draft. It actually works quite well. The team who gets the best Group 1 rider (regardless of whether he was protected or picked) should get last choice of group 2. The team who gets the worst Group 1 rider (regardless of whether he was protected or picked) should get first choice of the 2nd pick.

 

The problems only occur when the ranking of the group1 riders is wrong, and somehow one of the best riders gets ranked as one of the worst riders.

Edited November 26, 2014 by John Leslie

[BluPanther]

Why should the lower teams benefit, perhaps qpr would like to have some chelsea players!

You obviously don't understand the concept of a draft system...

[Steve0]

Why should the lower teams benefit, perhaps qpr would like to have some chelsea players!

It's not football we are talking about - it's speedway! When the draft was setup it was to reduce EL costs under the pretence of giving up and coming riders a chance to ride in the top tier and also to ensure that the top clubs didn't get the best FTR riders and the lower teams having the pick of the spoils!

[Starman2006]

And you can zip it!

Keep moaning mate. We'l give you something else to moan about come next October... Think im joking, just watch !!

[thehammer]

 

Another problem: Everybody in speedway , be it Fans, Promoters, Riders, Clubs, hate the idea of guests. Last tear it got to epidemic proportions. Now this year we will have to source guest each time when our meetings clash with Joe Jacobs parent club because they will have first call. How ironic is that when our own rider has had to ride elsewhere. Talk about common sense.

Nice that you are not going to use Jacobs against Coventry as he's our asset (I think!) 😉

[thecoombdog]

If any Poole fan thinks Newman is the 6th best draft rider based on last season then you are more stupid than that muppet Coventry fan who constantly posts sh1te on here!

Edited November 26, 2014 by thecoombdog

[foreverblue]

You obviously don't understand the concept of a draft system...

I understood it was to help young riders get experience of top flight speedway not to handicap the best teams by giving them the worst riders but I so agree newman should be ranked higher

[E I Addio]

I understood it was to help young riders get experience of top flight speedway not to handicap the best teams by giving them the worst riders but I so agree newman should be ranked higher

But you are presumably happy with the idea that the best teams get the best riders and the rest get what's left?

[Bagpuss]

I understood it was to help young riders get experience of top flight speedway not to handicap the best teams by giving them the worst riders but I so agree newman should be ranked higher

 

Google 'NFL draft', have a read and perhaps you'll grasp the concept.

[uk_martin]

Can someone please check to see if these dates of birth of the bright young things that will make up the FTR are correct, and if I've calculated their ages (as at 1st April 2015 - to pick a common date for all) correctly too please? Dates of birth sourced from www.speedwayresults.com

 

Blackbird L - 21/02/87 - 28

Lambert S - 21/02/89 - 26
Wright C - 26/10/88 - 26

Rose L - 05/09/89 - 25
Kerr L - 25/03/90 - 25
Auty - 09/09/90 - 24
Birks A - 19/10/90 - 24
Starke P - 18/11/90 - 24
Worrall S - 23/09/91 - 23
Newman K - 14/12/91 - 23
Sarjeant J - 16/11/93 - 21
Garrity J - 09/11/93 - 21
Jacobs J - 14/08/93 - 21
Nielsen S - 31/10/94 - 20
Bates J - 01/02/96 - 19
Ellis A - 21/03/96 - 19

 

If I'm right, we only have two teenagers (because Robert Lambert doesn't seem to count in the minds of the BSPA, does he?) - OK, three then, in the EL.

 

What's the DOB / Age cut off point for admission into the FIM World u21 Championships? How many of the GB riders will qualify?

Now compare the British riders with the bright young things in Poland:

 

Musielak T - 18/08/93 - 21
Wozniak S - 06/05/93 - 21
Pawlicki Pi - 30/11/94 - 20
Strzelec A - 15/03/94 - 20
Cyfer A - 21/05/95 - 19
Pieszczek K - 23/09/95 - 19
Przedpelski P - 23/06/95 - 19
Zmarzlik B - 12/04/95 - 19
Kaczmarek D - 02/06/97 - 17

I daren't start with the bright young things coming out of Denmark and Sweden.

 

One has to ask, in reality, why are the BSPA not looking at more teenagers and not so many people in their mid-20's, who let's face it, will never represent the country at international level. If they haven't made it yet they never will. Resources should be focussed at the much younger riders if Team GB will ever be able to compete effectively again.

Edited November 27, 2014 by uk martin

[Arson fire]

Wilko at 33 is on the guest list lol

[MrMungo]

I haven't gone through all of them, but Lewis Rose's age is definitely wrong. He's another one in the mid 20s.

[Countershaftcounter]

Can someone please check to see if these dates of birth of the bright young things that will make up the FTR are correct, and if I've calculated their ages (as at 1st April 2015 - to pick a common date for all) correctly too please? Dates of birth sourced from www.speedwayresults.com

 

Blackbird L - 21/02/87 - 28

Lambert S - 21/02/89 - 26

Wright C - 26/10/88 - 26

Kerr L - 25/03/90 - 25

Auty - 09/09/90 - 24

Birks A - 19/10/90 - 24

Starke P - 18/11/90 - 24

Worrall S - 23/09/91 - 23

Newman K - 14/12/91 - 23

Rose L - 27/10/93 - 21

Sarjeant J - 16/11/93 - 21

Garrity J - 09/11/93 - 21

Jacobs J - 14/08/93 - 21

Nielsen S - 31/10/94 - 20

Bates J - 01/02/96 - 19

Ellis A - 21/03/96 - 19

 

If I'm right, we only have two teenagers (because Robert Lambert doesn't seem to count in the minds of the BSPA, does he?) - OK, three then, in the EL.

 

What's the DOB / Age cut off point for admission into the FIM World u21 Championships? How many of the GB riders will qualify?

Now compare the British riders with the bright young things in Poland:

 

Musielak T - 18/08/93 - 21

Wozniak S - 06/05/93 - 21

Pawlicki Pi - 30/11/94 - 20

Strzelec A - 15/03/94 - 20

Cyfer A - 21/05/95 - 19

Pieszczek K - 23/09/95 - 19

Przedpelski P - 23/06/95 - 19

Zmarzlik B - 12/04/95 - 19

Kaczmarek D - 02/06/97 - 17

 

I daren't start with the bright young things coming out of Denmark and Sweden.

 

One has to ask, in reality, why are the BSPA not looking at more teenagers and not so many people in their mid-20's, who let's face it, will never represent the country at international level. If they haven't made it yet they never will. Resources should be focussed at the much younger riders if Team GB will ever be able to compete effectively again.

i should think the Poles / Danes etc aren't screwing their youngsters over for short term gain either .