lionking Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Expect Leicester to go for Ashley Birks & Josh Bates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I doubt Lambert would want to get £40 a point either! £40 a point and scoring 10 a meeting is........decent money! He'd get 5 rides too, mega bucks! Also, any points money could be topped up with 'sponsorship' to make it more appealing I'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Why do the riders in Pot 1 need to be in an order? They are going to be picked in order of clubs finishing positions after all. Clubs will choose based upon their view of the rider/their asset base/their race night etc. Am I missing something? Pretty sure I read also that any rider from Pot 1 can guest for any Pot 1 rider which seems fair as they are all pretty even to be honest. I'm not even sure Pot 2 needs a grading system this time around. Riders are much closer together in ability again this time around. It will determine the order of the picks for Grade B. So if Newman was 1 and Poole protect and pick him then they will have last pick in the Grade B picks. Edited November 21, 2014 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Will there be an open, transparent & objective grading using last year's EL/PL/NL averages (with conversions) or will Neil Vatcher choose??? My subjective Grade A order would be: Auty Newman Blackbird Kerr Garrity Worrall Roynon Wright Birks Boxall Would agree with that order Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 The point i would make is Newman was getting beaten by Kerr, Blackbird and Garrity earlier in the season when they wern't carrying injuries, later on Newman was winning more partly because he improved massively over the season but it has to be tempered with the fact other riders were not at their best later in the season which made his life a bit easier and he went through almost the entire season fully fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 It sounds as if the FTD riders have been decided on for 2015 with the choice of whether they participate down to the individual riders. This article is from a local internet sports column. http://swindonlinksport.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 The point i would make is Newman was getting beaten by Kerr, Blackbird and Garrity earlier in the season when they wern't carrying injuries, later on Newman was winning more partly because he improved massively over the season but it has to be tempered with the fact other riders were not at their best later in the season which made his life a bit easier and he went through almost the entire season fully fit. I remember newman having an injury early season 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser McHuge Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 The point i would make is Newman was getting beaten by Kerr, Blackbird and Garrity earlier in the season when they wern't carrying injuries, later on Newman was winning more partly because he improved massively over the season but it has to be tempered with the fact other riders were not at their best later in the season which made his life a bit easier and he went through almost the entire season fully fit. Riding with injuries and niggles are just part of the sport...if you are on the track then you are fit to be judged and from what I saw I would say Newman was consistently the best rider last season ...maybe on certain days Garrity , Kerr or Blackbird were better but I still say based on the whole season Newman was the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 All great in theory-but I`m sure it will all be sorted before the draft-riders after all will only ride where they want too. Who will be the 2 non-picks in group 1 Roynon and Boxall ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Happy with the proposals but, Mallet retired late on in the season and Liam Carr will miss all season to recover from his horrific injuries. Robert Lambert was deemed non eligible for the FT scheme. Edited November 21, 2014 by Tsunami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 The point i would make is Newman was getting beaten by Kerr, Blackbird and Garrity earlier in the season when they wern't carrying injuries, later on Newman was winning more partly because he improved massively over the season but it has to be tempered with the fact other riders were not at their best later in the season which made his life a bit easier and he went through almost the entire season fully fit. I really can't understand why Poole fans fail to recognise just how good Kyle was last season. & he was carrying injuries when he had a couple of iffy scores. Let him be in an open draft & I'd bet that he would be the first pick of every promotor. The only logical reason for playing down his season & wanting him graded lower than 1 is so they get a better pick in the 2nd draft. Josh, Roynon & the rest might have had cause in the past to be rated higher than Kyle but that isn't the case now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 I really can't understand why Poole fans fail to recognise just how good Kyle was last season. & he was carrying injuries when he had a couple of iffy scores. Let him be in an open draft & I'd bet that he would be the first pick of every promotor. The only logical reason for playing down his season & wanting him graded lower than 1 is so they get a better pick in the 2nd draft. Josh, Roynon & the rest might have had cause in the past to be rated higher than Kyle but that isn't the case now. It makes no difference where the riders are in the Grade A list - its where the club finished in the EL that determines the order of the pick after (presumably) those clubs have picked their protected rider. If Poole pick Newman (assuming he agrees to go on the list?), then they will have the last pick from the Grade B riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Happy with the proposals but, Mallet retired late on in the season and Liam Carr will miss all season to recover from his horrific injuries. Robert Lambert was deemed non eligible for the FT scheme. Robert Lambert declined to join the FTR draft. It makes no difference where the riders are in the Grade A list - its where the club finished in the EL that determines the order of the pick after (presumably) those clubs have picked their protected rider. If Poole pick Newman (assuming he agrees to go on the list?), then they will have the last pick from the Grade B riders I think the important pick for all teams will be grade B - most of the grade A riders are similar in their abilities. Getting a good grade B will provide a better balance to the team - and hopefully provide better cover where the grade A gets injured during a meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 (edited) Without having to trawl threw other posts can protect a rider in the second grade rather than the first ? as I was thinking Cov and KL might want to do that with Rose and Sarjent seeing your get a more even pick in the first grade no matter what . Edited November 21, 2014 by orion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Without having to trawl threw other posts can protect a rider in the second grade rather than the first ? as I was thinking Cov and KL might want to do that with Rose and Sarjent seeing your get a more even pick in the first grade no matter what . Yes one or the other-not both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Yes one or the other-not both Cheers Sugar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brewer Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Lakeside could do well by protecting ellis in rd 2. Unless he gets moved up if any c1 riders opt out 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 £40 a point and scoring 10 a meeting is........decent money! He'd get 5 rides too, mega bucks! Also, any points money could be topped up with 'sponsorship' to make it more appealing I'm sure. £40 x10 =£400£120 x 4 = £480 + less maintenance from 4 rides instead of 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrow boy Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 Wonder who will get the short straw, & end up at Leicester ? What do you mean? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 21, 2014 Report Share Posted November 21, 2014 £40 a point and scoring 10 a meeting is........decent money! He'd get 5 rides too, mega bucks! Also, any points money could be topped up with 'sponsorship' to make it more appealing I'm sure. There was a reason he refused to go in it this season, i am sure it will be no different next. I really can't understand why Poole fans fail to recognise just how good Kyle was last season. & he was carrying injuries when he had a couple of iffy scores. He started the season quite slowly and i believe Kyle himself even said he was at risk of being dropped. Don`t recall him carrying a pre season injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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