Phil The Ace Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Garrity WILL be in your 1-5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Must have missed that where does it say that if you protect a 2nd round draft rider you lose your place in the 1st round draft. It doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The figures don't lie. 8.5 home average for Eastboune, his bet away track was Birmingham where he had a 6.5 away average - neither track is in the EL any more. The year before his best away track was Peterborough who are also no longer in the EL! Then he basically scores 6 everywhere, not impressive at all. It's not as if 2014 is a one off, he is the same every season. Don't forget a few weeks ago he was looking to double up. So expect a poor start to get that average under 6 ASAP. 6.5 away from home is pretty good considering his average is 6.32. I have seen him have good meetings at Coventry and Poole and he was in the world cup not long ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 It doesn't. In that case Belle Vue should go for Garrity rather than keep Worrall . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 6.5 away from home is pretty good considering his average is 6.32. I have seen him have good meetings at Coventry and Poole and he was in the world cup not long ago. 6.5 was his BEST away score. At a track thats not even in the league now! In that case Belle Vue should go for Garrity rather than keep Worrall . Coventry will keep Garrity. If Garrity doesn't want to be Coventry reserve then he won't be in the draft. So he won't be at BV or Wolves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Does anyone actually believe these rumours. I have my doubts. Garrity WILL be in your 1-5 Coventry's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 It looks like Garrity will not be protected in the FTD (at his own request) This means we will get last pick in group A as Poole and Kings Lynn will have protected riders.source? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) Garrity WILL be in your 1-5 If he is happy to stay why would they do that Phil when they can have him in the team anyway at reserve where he will score big points and he can replace any out of form rider when they need him to.Plus this will then give them last pick in the 1st round draft. If they keep Andersen or a simular point averaged rider +Harris and Woodward their combined average is 22.14.Which leaves 11.86 for their last 2 riders.I think Garrity would come in on about 3.70 which then leaves them 8.26 left.Even if they sign a rider on a 6.99 average they will have wasted 1.17 of a point and have a reserve that won't score half as many points.This is just the way i look at it but stranger things have happened so who knows. Edited November 25, 2014 by B.V 72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 If he is happy to stay why would they do that Phil when they can have him in the team anyway at reserve where he will score big points and he can replace any out of form rider when they need him to.Plus this will then give them last pick in the 1st round draft. If they keep Andersen or a simular point averaged rider +Harris and Woodward their combined average is 22.14.Which leaves 11.96 for their last 2 riders.I think Garrity would come in on about 3.70 which then leaves them 8.26 left.Even if they sign a rider on a 6.99 average they will have wasted 1.27 of a point and have a reserve that won't score half as many points.This is just the way i look at it but stranger things have happened so who knows. I wouldn't be 100% sure that Andersen will be our number 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The poster that started this romour is not usual very reliable .anyway it's not up to Garrity he rode for Cov last year and the rules state we can protect him if he doesn't like it he won't be in the draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The poster that started this romour is not usual very reliable .anyway it's not up to Garrity he rode for Cov last year and the rules state we can protect him if he doesn't like it he won't be in the draft If he is in the 1-5 then that blows the rumour out of the water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 If he is in the 1-5 then that blows the rumour out of the water. TBF, if he's in the 1-5 the rumour isn't a million miles from the truth. The reality could be he doesn't want to ride in the draft for draft money - someone has heard that and made it Jason doesn't want to ride in reserve for Coventry.... Chinese whispers at it's best. TBH, if Jasons issue is payment and being a draft rider, the club should offer to up his points money if he accepts the draft place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 source? Those present at Wolves talk in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.V 72 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 I wouldn't be 100% sure that Andersen will be our number 1. I did say Andersen or a simular points averaged rider.But having a re think if they are going to sign a higher point averaged rider at no1 ie Jonsson who had a 9.66 average the last time he rode over here it makes a lot more sence of Garitty being in the 1 to 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 25, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 (edited) I did say Andersen or a simular points averaged rider.But having a re think if they are going to sign a higher point averaged rider at no1 ie Jonsson who had a 9.66 average the last time he rode over here it makes a lot more sence of Garitty being in the 1 to 5. Yes if Garrity is in the 1-5 then you would have to assume a big signing at number 1. Jonsson and Harris would be exciting to see. IF we are looking to sign Jonsson I think there is a case to have his average re - evaluated. Edited November 25, 2014 by woz01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 The poster that started this romour is not usual very reliable .anyway it's not up to Garrity he rode for Cov last year and the rules state we can protect him if he doesn't like it he won't be in the draft Hoping your right. Surely Belle Vue would look at picking Garrity before wolves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 TBF, if he's in the 1-5 the rumour isn't a million miles from the truth. The reality could be he doesn't want to ride in the draft for draft money - someone has heard that and made it Jason doesn't want to ride in reserve for Coventry.... Chinese whispers at it's best. TBH, if Jasons issue is payment and being a draft rider, the club should offer to up his points money if he accepts the draft place. while what you put there makes sense, surely that defeats the whole point of the draft and opens a can of worms with other draft riders demanding more money from clubs. costs then spiral and your paying a reserve more money than your second string riders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Poor Steve, must be driving you mad. Think I will include Tai in the Lakeside team for the full set I may get bored of Tai being mentioned as a possible in other teams permutations once it passes 30 or more. Only a few more to go already i reckon. Be massive if Wolves get Garrity he's like a heat leader there ...Cov should just pick him if he says no it will be better he gets kick out rather that letting Wolves have him . This also means Lakeside can pick Blackbird now . Its Garrity`s right to tell Cov he doesn't want protecting if that is what he wants. Its not like he is their asset after all! Coventry could still pick him if they want and face having a rider not happy being there. There choice. He cant moan once he is selected and of course if he asks to move then he faces being removed from the draft - like the situation with Blackbird if the rumours are true he doesn't want to go to Leicester. Why should Coventry get to protect a rider that doesn't want protecting and isn't even their asset?? As for Wolves well we are in a decent position to land a decent number 6 so be it Garrity, be it Blackbird i think we wont be losing to much sleep if we miss out on Garrity if he isn't protected. And why shouldn't Wolves be able to pick Garrity because he is like a heat leader there??? If he is on the draft list AND available we have every right to pick him. The figures don't lie. 8.5 home average for Eastboune, his bet away track was Birmingham where he had a 6.5 away average - neither track is in the EL any more. The year before his best away track was Peterborough who are also no longer in the EL! Then he basically scores 6 everywhere, not impressive at all. It's not as if 2014 is a one off, he is the same every season. Don't forget a few weeks ago he was looking to double up. So expect a poor start to get that average under 6 ASAP. Woodward, like most of the Eagles riders, using have a poor away average because their form on the as a team is dire. Be interesting to see how he goes riding in a different time. Decent and honest rider all the same. Exactly. The draft is meant to be you go where picked, as soon as we let one rider dictate where he goes then all hell breaks lose as others have to be given the same privilege. It isn't a rule tho. Teams have the option to select a draft rider they used last year. Surely a rider has the right to tell a club he DOESN'T want protecting?? Doesn't mean that Coventry CANT protect him because they can. The poster that started this romour is not usual very reliable .anyway it's not up to Garrity he rode for Cov last year and the rules state we can protect him if he doesn't like it he won't be in the draft If he selected by Coventry he will have no choice. But just what is wrong in Garrity telling Coventry he doesn't want protecting?? The lad is only looking at what is best for him. He showed last year he has progressed BECAUSE of being selected by Coventry. It isn't going to be bad news if Coventry select him and i`m sure Jason knows that. Jason doesn't get to dictate where he goes, but he does have the option to have an opinion surely?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 As for Wolves well we are in a decent position to land a decent number 6 so be it Garrity, be it Blackbird i think we wont be losing to much sleep if we miss out on Garrity if he isn't protected. And why shouldn't Wolves be able to pick Garrity because he is like a heat leader there??? If he is on the draft list AND available we have every right to pick him. Not got a problem with Wolves picking Garrity .. just saying that if cov give them the chance it's gives them a big edge seeing he's so good at Wolves . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 25, 2014 Report Share Posted November 25, 2014 Not got a problem with Wolves picking Garrity .. just saying that if cov give them the chance it's gives them a big edge seeing he's so good at Wolves . He has scored freely at most tracks but of course he does go very well at Monmore as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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