Bspa Meeting...

[Star Lady]

It would be a good idea to have at least 2 supporters to go from each club to put in thier points of view and also to be able to veto some of the stuppid ideas that they always seem to come up with each year.

The imput of those supporters would make on big difference to the way speedway is run in this country. Though I am sure the powers that be that sit on the BPSA board of idiots would some make sure that they where all show out of the room even before the meeting started.

They only changes they want, is the changes they make, no matter how damaging it is to our beloved sport.

Not sure how this would work. Some fans ideas are as off the wall as the BSPA

[The White Knight]

It would be a good idea to have at least 2 supporters to go from each club to put in thier points of view and also to be able to veto some of the stuppid ideas that they always seem to come up with each year.

The imput of those supporters would make on big difference to the way speedway is run in this country. Though I am sure the powers that be that sit on the BPSA board of idiots would some make sure that they where all show out of the room even before the meeting started.

They only changes they want, is the changes they make, no matter how damaging it is to our beloved sport.

How about a couple of Supporters who have stopped going. That would be more effective.

 

Ooops - I'd forgotten - they couldn't give a hoot as to why people have stopped going. They are just NOT interested. :sad:

[Guest]

I think it would be handy if they kept stadiums open in 2015 -- it would be a start xx

 

Not a problem surely? Most speedway promoters don't own the stadiums but are just tenants. Where they are owned by the speedway promoter, at most of them other events are staged besides speedway...Scunthorpe and King's Lynn spring readily to mind.

[castrolargh]

A bit radical, and too late for this season, but why not have a simple questionnaire that each club can ask its supporters to fill in.

multiple choice such as ; would you like A) More meetings with possibly less top stars or

Less meetings but stronger teams.

C) Not bothered

Do you think a set race night is a good idea ?YES/NO

I know that is only 2 examples but if the same set of questions was asked by all clubs, the results compiled and analysed, then something might get formulated that appealed to more people , would work as a business and may stop the decline of our sport.

[Mike.Butler]

to be honest given the promoters didn't act upon the suggestions made when consolidated by the speedway star a couple of years ago i doubt they are listening any more now...they seem to be in a world of their own (either that or they can never agree on anything so nothing changes).. Thus an independent body is the only way forward...but who is gonna pay now that the sport is on its knees...i'm afraid the opportunity was missed during the good times and we are the ones left

to put out the light.

Edited October 22, 2014 by Mike.Butler

[P T Preece]

The BSPA meeting is going to be toured this year under the heading of a farce, it will be at all major theatres..

[R87]

to be honest given the promoters didn't act upon the suggestions made when consolidated by the speedway star a couple of years ago i doubt they are listening any more now...they seem to be in a world of their own (either that or they can never agree on anything so nothing changes).. Thus an independent body is the only way forward...but who is gonna pay now that the sport is on its knees...i'm afraid the opportunity was missed during the good times and we are the ones leftto put out the light.

I seem to recall a week after the suggestions was published in the star that Len Silver wrote a letter to the SS and rubbished every idea suggested....

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

unfortunatly with money getting tighter within speedway the promoters are getting less and less open to fresh ideas unless they can see an instant windfall and thats understandable i suppose but it dosent benifit speedways future ,the rules of the sport have to be decided by someone or a group who have no finacial intrest in any team because as impartial as the promoters claim to be they will never go for a rule which impacts their team no matter how benificial it is to the sport , its a promoters job to promote his team and get the best for his team but it just dosent sit right with anybody when he needs to slightly bend the rules and he is part of the rule making team because obviously he will get away with it and that shouldnt be, but then look at the other side of the coin ,if you were a promoter and it was your money/living at stake would you want to pay an independant body to dictate to you how you should run your buisness , i do feel slightly for the promters but for the future credility of the sport an independant body has got to be the way to go

Edited October 22, 2014 by THE DEAN MACHINE

[The White Knight]

unfortunatly with money getting tighter within speedway the promoters are getting less and less open to fresh ideas unless they can see an instant windfall and thats understandable i suppose but it dosent benifit speedways future ,the rules of the sport have to be decided by someone or a group who have no finacial intrest in any team because as impartial as the promoters claim to be they will never go for a rule which impacts their team no matter how benificial it is to the sport , its a promoters job to promote his team and get the best for his team but it just dosent sit right with anybody when he needs to slightly bend the rules and he is part of the rule making team because obviously he will get away with it and that shouldnt be, but then look at the other side of the coin ,if you were a promoter and it was your money/living at stake would you want to pay an independant body to dictate to you how you should run your buisness , i do feel slightly for the promters but for the future credility of the sport an independant body has got to be the way to go

Very balanced and sensible Post with which I totally agree Dean.

[Icicle]

Have they looked at the meaning of the word "Promote"? I.E. PROMOTE! Push for sponsors, push for Media interest, attempt to make it more attractive to a younger audience etc. Not desperately cling on to the "good old ways" (cough) of 1950 style presentation & piles of minor ,but annoying, tinkering with rules ..

[New Science]

How about a couple of Supporters who have stopped going. That would be more effective.

 

Ooops - I'd forgotten - they couldn't give a hoot as to why people have stopped going. They are just NOT interested.

From watching the play offs this week and seeing the healthy attendances at both meetings, the BSPA are unlikely to adopt your suggestion of 'scrapping the play offs altogether'

[Trees]

The promoters only have to look at the Polish model to see what they need to do to get young people to speedway and it ain't all about the racing ....... do they ever consider promotion of the sport at their meetings? Perhaps they all think they have it right? Wrong!!

[New Science]

Well its their business,s that stand to go down the pan and with the gaps on the terraces becoming more and more each season surely even the goons at the BSPA can see the need for a radical change to breathe life back into the misnamed EL? If not the sport at the top level is finished.

And your radical change would be ?

[THE DEAN MACHINE]

The promoters only have to look at the Polish model to see what they need to do to get young people to speedway and it ain't all about the racing ....... do they ever consider promotion of the sport at their meetings? Perhaps they all think they have it right? Wrong!!

dont be fooled into thinking all is rosey in polish speedway because it isnt. Apart from the final crowds were well down to what they should of been. It is still far healthier than british speedway but to quote a high ranking pole "polish speedway is finished". by that i think he meant the bubble has well an truly burst but if polish speedway is finished what does that say about british speedway

[Trees]

Sounds like what happened over here in the 60s when tracks like Norwich were shut down and sold off cos crowds went down from 20000 to 10000 or whatever it was!!

[Humphrey Appleby]

It is still far healthier than british speedway but to quote a high ranking pole "polish speedway is finished". by that i think he meant the bubble has well an truly burst but if polish speedway is finished what does that say about british speedway

 

Only healthier if their costs are comparable with British speedway. Given what some teams are reputed to pay, even much larger crowds than what we get in Britain are not going to be sufficient to pay the bills, unless substantial sponsorship is forthcoming a well.

 

It been apparent to me for some time though, that speedway around the world can't seem to dig itself out of an association with a specific social strata, and this is a barrier to leveraging big sponsorship and corporate entertainment which is needed to survive in the modern world.

[New Science]

The promoters only have to look at the Polish model to see what they need to do to get young people to speedway and it ain't all about the racing ....... do they ever consider promotion of the sport at their meetings? Perhaps they all think they have it right? Wrong!!

2 clubs in the Polish top division have been denied a licence for next year and have been relegated 2 divisions for being nothing short of bankrupt. Although crowds are better in Poland don't believe all is well in Polish speedway.

Edited October 23, 2014 by New Science

[ch958]

The promoters only have to look at the Polish model to see what they need to do to get young people to speedway and it ain't all about the racing ....... do they ever consider promotion of the sport at their meetings? Perhaps they all think they have it right? Wrong!!

 

 

Poland's a different country, a different culture - the Polish model might not work here - clubs don't own their own stadiums in the middle of cities for one thing - they probably don't have the Nimbys we have

I'd rather it died than turned into some kind of WWE freakshow for der kidz

[Pirates Of Poole]

Well the first they need to do is increase the 32 point limit as we are going to find more riders out of work. My reason is backed up more by the fact unlike previous years we only had 1 rider finish with a 4-5 average 4.66 for Lasse. The rest are all 5+. To weaken this now would another nail in the coffin, we have 2 less teams and 14 more riders to choose from.

[SCB]

Well the first they need to do is increase the 32 point limit as we are going to find more riders out of work. My reason is backed up more by the fact unlike previous years we only had 1 rider finish with a 4-5 average 4.66 for Lasse. The rest are all 5+. To weaken this now would another nail in the coffin, we have 2 less teams and 14 more riders to choose from.

So we only have one sub 5 pointer. How many 9+ men do we have? Zero. 32 plus the 8 the reserves are guarantee to average is 40. We're not a million miles from the break even figure tbf. The league has already lost Kildemand to and possibly Ward is he's banned so 32 may be enough.

Edited October 24, 2014 by SCB