IronScorpion Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 This is where riders should be graded AND averages used. Blackbird, for example, at 8.95 & 3rd in the averages is not a heat leader(Grade A) but is probably about Grade C. Kerr, Garrity & Worrall come into the same category. Bech, Lawson, Stead, Schlein possibly Grade B riders. Wells, Howarth, Klindt possibly Grade C. You could even have 3 Grade A riders, making a team top heavy but, by doing this, lose the opportunity for Grade B & have to sign 2 Grade C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's the opportunity for gamesmanship I don't like mate.Opens a floodgate for cheating. Yeah I know what u are saying, hopefully it don't happen eh ...... speedway has forever been open to cheating, don't stop me loving racing though ;-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 It's the opportunity for gamesmanship I don't like mate. Â Would yoube calling Trees "mate" if you knew that she was a lady? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Not too many things wrong this year. the increased points limit is good, though could have been more than 2 points what with 2 less teams this year. Â Like others, though, I don't see why they drop the "2 points for a win of 6 or less". Â They say that home supporters were a bit upset if they lost a point. Well, durrrrr!! They're supposed to be upset. It's called sport. You lose a point, you get upset. Â And it makes the last heat scenario for the extra point much less relevant, because it only effects the away team. and away teams normally have about 5 supporters there on a good day for your typical league match. Â The whole point of the scoring system was to keep matches alive. But, if it don't have any impact on your own team, then it's not alive. Still, at least it will keep those following the scores online gripped. Â So, close to a good AGM boys, but no cigar once again! Edited November 17, 2014 by grachan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Not too many things wrong this year. the increased points limit is good, though could have been more than 2 points what with 2 less teams this year. Â I did think they could have stretched to 36 for the top 5. Still, there you go.. Edited November 17, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I did think they could have stretched to 36 for the top 5. Still, there you go.. Only because Poole have to get rid of a rider  I agree Starman 36 would have given the option for stronger teams, and if they think the GP riders will be attracted back, by using 34, a few 2nd heat leaders could struggle to get into a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 have to admit I don't see why they had to change the present 2 points for a home win if less than six points home win at least It made last heat deciders interesting in a lot of matches,like people say you now can gift aTeam a point without affecting your home win,if you think it would be in Your Teams interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Â Â I agree Starman 36 would have given the option for stronger teams, and if they think the GP riders will be attracted back, by using 34, a few 2nd heat leaders could struggle to get into a team. Well imo i don't think 34 is really enough, and i count ALL teams in this, not just Poole. I also feel with 28 meetings you are going to drag on into October, and again, you are going to battle with the Weather when really and truely the clubs in the play off's need a clear run.. It should also all be done and dusted by End of September, including the play off's. And with that many meetings, the big boys will not come back.. Edited November 17, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Are people really suggesting 36? 34 is too high. Where are the 7+ men going to come from to take up the slack already without making the limit 36. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I think we will see more meetings in March now there is no more gps in New Zealand. Playoffs should really finish in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldtimer Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) "Fans can look forward to an exciting season, safe in the knowledge the sport is moving forward". Â Chris Louis Director Of speedway (whatever that might be). Edited November 17, 2014 by oldtimer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Would yoube calling Trees "mate" if you knew that she was a lady? No I would be calling her 'your majesty' I don't know people here from Adam. Â There is no clue in the name unfortunately. UK martin could be a code for a transsexual from Chipping Sodbury and I would never know that. Trees can be male too. You would never know from Pandorum that I am actually the Prime Minister of The Faroe Islands and to be honest why should you care "Fans can look forward to an exciting season, safe in the knowledge the sport is moving forward". Â Chris Louis Director Of speedway (whatever that might be). Sadly that tells you everything you need to know about these lunatics. The Emperors new Clothes comes to mind. The only place the sport is moving here in Britain is Oblivion and it's doing that at a dreadfully slow pace that if it was human or a horse then Dignitas and a shotgun would become involved. Edited November 17, 2014 by pandorum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 "Fans can look forward to an exciting season, safe in the knowledge the sport is moving forward". Â Chris Louis Director Of speedway (whatever that might be). I think it means its a speedway that he is involved in and the position he holds is that of director.Rather like any other company really! As for moving forward I read that to be about tye evolution of the 'fastrack' and doubling up and the hint that in future the PL could adopt its own 'fastrack' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Are people really suggesting 36? 34 is too high. Where are the 7+ men going to come from to take up the slack already without making the limit 36. Don't agree, the higher the better. And a 7 pointer is not really a heatleader, is it. All you'l be doing is going down down down.. If you keep dropping it, you'l end up with the 6 pointers being your heatleaders, then even i would say, thats not Elite... Then watch this forum go into meltdown.. especially when Matt finds a heatleader mascaraiding as a 5 pointer !! Edited November 17, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Don't think that much has been achieved at all. We now have an Elite League of 8 teams, it will be very interesting to see what SKY TV do now with their coverage of the sport as they said last year that it was only workable to cover the sport with 10 teams in the EL. It could be better anyway if another broadcaster took over we just may get a bit more in the way of a weekly coverage again. Â Not sure about the rules with the FTR scheme, does it mean that all those who rode as FTR this season will carry on again next year because I do think that 5 or 6 of them should now move up to a full team place, how can you have a FTR coming out of seneral meeting scouring double figues, some of them where doing better than the top riders. They have proved they did the job this year, just hope the promoter have the guts to give them full team places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Â Not sure about the rules with the FTR scheme, does it mean that all those who rode as FTR this season will carry on again next year because I do think that 5 or 6 of them should now move up to a full team place, how can you have a FTR coming out of seneral meeting scouring double figues, some of them where doing better than the top riders. They have proved they did the job this year, just hope the promoter have the guts to give them full team places. Its the only way the top 6-7 are going to improve mate.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 No I would be calling her 'your majesty'I don't know people here from Adam.There is no clue in the name unfortunately.UK martin could be a code for a transsexual from Chipping Sodbury and I would never know that.Trees can be male too.You would never know from Pandorum that I am actually the Prime Minister of The Faroe Islands and to be honest why should you care :)Sadly that tells you everything you need to know about these lunatics.The Emperors new Clothes comes to mind.The only place the sport is moving here in Britain is Oblivion and it's doing that at a dreadfully slow pace that if it was human or a horse then Dignitas and a shotgun would become involved. No problem with mate, m8, just glad to take part in the banter :-) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 No problem with mate, m8, just glad to take part in the banter :-) That is one of the things I enjoy here..... That and any thread about Darcy Ward Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I think it means its a speedway that he is involved in and the position he holds is that of director. Rather like any other company really! As for moving forward I read that to be about tye evolution of the 'fastrack' and doubling up and the hint that in future the PL could adopt its own 'fastrack' Oldtimer has a major problem with the term "Director of Speedway". In fact, he's brought this up so many times he's obviously scarily obsessed with it. Â It's been explained to him on here why he was labelled with that title, but for some bizarre reason he just won't let it lie. Â The title "Director of Speedway" was used in press releases because at the time Chris Louis took over the day to day running of the club, he didn't have his promoters licence and wasn't allowed to use the term "promoter/co-promoter". Â He's now had his promoters licence for some years, but the "Director Of Speedway" tag has stuck with some media sources, although on the BSPA website in which I assume Oldtimer has taken his quote, they quite clearly state "Co-promoter" and not "Director Of Speedway" as this sad fool states in his post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 Oldtimer has a major problem with the term "Director of Speedway". In fact, he's brought this up so many times he's obviously scarily obsessed with it. Â It's been explained to him on here why he was labelled with that title, but for some bizarre reason he just won't let it lie. Â The title "Director of Speedway" was used in press releases because at the time Chris Louis took over the day to day running of the club, he didn't have his promoters licence and wasn't allowed to use the term "promoter/co-promoter". Â He's now had his promoters licence for some years, but the "Director Of Speedway" tag has stuck with some media sources, although on the BSPA website in which I assume Oldtimer has taken his quote, they quite clearly state "Co-promoter" and not "Director Of Speedway" as this sad fool states in his post. Obviously it's all a matter of semantics but giving yourself a cool title does not mean it actually means you do anything. Director conjures up someone who is pushing the boundaries of the sport and moving it forward. Speedway is not moving in any direction so Directors are superfluous to this sport. Of course it can be argued that Nowhere is a direction but that would be just showing off. I suppose nowadays everyone has to have a cool title such as 'waste management operative' instead of 'dustman' or 'Charlie Webster' instead of 'Mad Woman In The Pits'. Sadly the sport needs more than such window dressing and could really do with a 'Director For Getting The Sport Out Of it's Self Inflicted Hole.' Sadly this meeting shows none capable of that are forthcoming any time soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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