BWitcher Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Poland's a different country, a different culture - the Polish model might not work here - clubs don't own their own stadiums in the middle of cities for one thing - they probably don't have the Nimbys we have I'd rather it died than turned into some kind of WWE freakshow for der kidz Without intending to be offensive, you sir are one of the primary problems the sport faces. It might need to die.. along with fans with this attitude, then start again almost from scratch with a fresh, vibrant fan base. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 24, 2014 Report Share Posted October 24, 2014 Poland's a different country, a different culture - the Polish model might not work here - clubs don't own their own stadiums in the middle of cities for one thing - they probably don't have the Nimbys we have I'd rather it died than turned into some kind of WWE freakshow for der kidz I don't mean who owns the clubs etc, I mean more the presentation, the interaction, getting the fans going, the drums, the chants, make it a fun night out regardless. For all this the promoters will have to really put some time and effort in and perhaps look outside the box. We need to get people talking about speedway, about the good night out. The mic men will have to put some thought into what they are saying, understand the fans mentality and the music that is played is vital. The riders will have to connect with the crowd, not just a half arsed wave after a race, they need to think club, think fans, think future of their sport/their jobs. I know we aren't Polish but you only have look at our football crowds to hear how passionate we are about our clubs. Have to try something ............ 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAN2 Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 Until the sport is run by a totally independent governing body it will die a slow lingering decline, no question. Will it ever happen no. Until the sport dies back to grass root level and re-invents itself we will all have to endure infighting and financial suicide. Our only answer is to vote with our feet until the message hits home where it hurts in the pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted October 25, 2014 Report Share Posted October 25, 2014 They should all sit in a room and drink a Jager shot every time someone says Poole. Then after a few hours each member should come up with an idea. They should then vote on which idea to adopt whilst still drunk. and resolve to adopt that idea once they sober up. Who knows they might just come up with something to save the sport as doing this sober has not worked out that well now has it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 The beckham kid wants a motorbike. Why dosent the bspa invite him along to a ride and skid day. Maybe just maybe he will see how brilliant riding a speedway bike is and fancy a proper go at the sport. At worst speedway gets some good short term publicity at best it gets a marketing mans dream 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ch958 Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Without intending to be offensive, you sir are one of the primary problems the sport faces. It might need to die.. along with fans with this attitude, then start again almost from scratch with a fresh, vibrant fan base. i'm not offended i just want the sport to be credible - i don't want to be embarrased by mega bonus double pointers, jokers, etc, etc i agree promotion at a local level is generally abysmal and that needs to be addressed i also agree with the start again from scratch comment but i suspect what i have in mind isn't what you have in mind as far as i'm concerned semi pro with mainly British riders is the way forward - riders people can identify with 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 The BPSA have not got the brains to ask the Bekhams lad along to try out a bike. What a chance this is for speedway and one not to be sneezed at. You would have every nespaper and tv station there, to show off little bekhams riding skills on a speedway bike. Then when he makes it as a FTR the same would happen again. Just hope that they are not to slow on the uptake to get some free advertising for this countries dying on its feet speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianbuck Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Until the sport is run by a totally independent governing body it will die a slow lingering decline, no question. Will it ever happen no. Until the sport dies back to grass root level and re-invents itself we will all have to endure infighting and financial suicide. Our only answer is to vote with our feet until the message hits home where it hurts in the pocket. Although not arguing with the need for this, it should be pointed out that from 1928 until 1964 speedway WAS ruled by an Independent body - The Speedway Control Board - but everyone (promoters, riders and supporters) wanted to change that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Although not arguing with the need for this, it should be pointed out that from 1928 until 1964 speedway WAS ruled by an Independent body - The Speedway Control Board - but everyone (promoters, riders and supporters) wanted to change that! The operative word there is 'ruled'. Now it's just a free for all among the Promoters, or at least, that's how it seems to me. :sad: Such is progress. :sad: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 I cant see how Beckhams lad trying speedway will get fans flocking to speedway all over the country again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P T Preece Posted October 27, 2014 Report Share Posted October 27, 2014 Things I would like to see 1 get rid of the double point rule 2 tape touch automatic 15 metre handicap, no replacement rider from the tapes. 3 false start straight round to the start again, if you go off the track you dont come back on again. 4 bring back the rakers 5 card system maintained throughout the season to riders who try to jump the start or lay down on the track, get to a certain number of points and you are suspended for a week or longer and twice in one meeting and you are out of the meeting. Not allowed to replace the rider for the rest of his rides. 6 better prepared tracks all over the country. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Doctor... Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 The BPSA have not got the brains to ask the Bekhams lad along to try out a bike. What a chance this is for speedway and one not to be sneezed at. You would have every nespaper and tv station there, to show off little bekhams riding skills on a speedway bike. Then when he makes it as a FTR the same would happen again. Just hope that they are not to slow on the uptake to get some free advertising for this countries dying on its feet speedway. Do you seriously believe what you have written here ? What world are you living in if you think someone like him would do anything without big bucks exchanging hands. Not something speedway in this country can afford. A famous-ish name did a pretty minor bit of PR at my place of work within the Nhs a few weeks back and commanded a disgusting figure around the 30k mark for doing sweet fa for no time at all, let alone chucking himself around a speedway track.. Holy shizzle..i'm lost for words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Some of you seem to of missed the point here. The reason behind this is in the first line "beckham child WANTS to ride a motorbike " the bspa offers and pays for him to have to have a go at a ride and skid day of whixh every kid with an interest in motorbikes would jump at the chance. He isnt there as a PR stunt, he is there for his own fun but by its nature every paper in the world would be on to this. .Victoria bless her thinks motorbikes are dangerous so even more reason why a teenager would want a go. Of course he could just say no but it hasnt cost anything to ask and sometimes if you dont ask you dont get.. The fact that i had to explain this says volumes about the way the sport is run 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 So that's your plan! Get a famous footballer to let his kid ride a speedway bike at one of out rubbish tips and a new Golden Age will magically appear. His girlfriend is probably more associated with bikes and more people know who she is. What next get Winona Ryder to manage Poole Pirates? The sport has a mountain of real problems to climb and needs to start now to address them. We will see soon enough whether anyone sane remains in charge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*JJ Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 Guy Martin was riding flat track at Rye House on Sunday. Pity someone didn't tip off the media! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandking072 Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 unfortunatly with money getting tighter within speedway the promoters are getting less and less open to fresh ideas unless they can see an instant windfall and thats understandable i suppose but it dosent benifit speedways future ,the rules of the sport have to be decided by someone or a group who have no finacial intrest in any team because as impartial as the promoters claim to be they will never go for a rule which impacts their team no matter how benificial it is to the sport , its a promoters job to promote his team and get the best for his team but it just dosent sit right with anybody when he needs to slightly bend the rules and he is part of the rule making team because obviously he will get away with it and that shouldnt be, but then look at the other side of the coin ,if you were a promoter and it was your money/living at stake would you want to pay an independant body to dictate to you how you should run your buisness , i do feel slightly for the promters but for the future credility of the sport an independant body has got to be the way to go Top post. But far too sensible for speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE DEAN MACHINE Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 (edited) So that's your plan! Get a famous footballer to let his kid ride a speedway bike at one of out rubbish tips and a new Golden Age will magically appear. His girlfriend is probably more associated with bikes and more people know who she is. What next get Winona Ryder to manage Poole Pirates? The sport has a mountain of real problems to climb and needs to start now to address them. We will see soon enough whether anyone sane remains in charge. feel free to browse any of my other post where there is more than enough ideas but in the meantime apply for the bspa chairmans job ,you are fully qualified for it Edited October 28, 2014 by THE DEAN MACHINE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorum Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 feel free to browse any of my other post where there is more than enough ideas but in the meantime apply for the bspa chairmans job ,you are fully qualified for it I dunno your idiot reply makes you rather fit in with that lot. I can invite you to a great many posts here I myself made with ideas for helping speedway. But then rather a lot of people here fall into that category. Or do you think you are the only one here who can be serious. Lighten up and stop thinking the posts here must always be serious and po faced. It's speedway after all and without a sense of humour and cynical irony one would go mental in a place like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jonimac Posted October 28, 2014 Popular Post Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 What next get Winona Ryder to manage Poole Pirates? Frankly it wouldn't work as most people on here would be whinging about Matt Ford using Ryder replacement. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwatcher Posted October 28, 2014 Report Share Posted October 28, 2014 What ever means that there is to see any sort of publisity that could help to promote speedway should be taken. Even if it costs the BPSA a few quid to let young Beckham ride at a slid and skid day, what have they got to lose if all the major nespapers are there to cover it and the TV. Don't miss out on a chance to let the public at large see that there is still speedway going on in the UK, because I personally feel that there is many people out there that don't even know that what once was a major attraction to many people is now only attended by a few die hard fans that get fewer by the year. So yes give the lad a shot at it, get the press there and put it in evet paper and all the TV screens, so folks can see that we are alive and kicking, just about. It is no use going down the long road we are going down now, that in around 10 years time there will be no one left to go and see speedway any longer. I can remember every meeting at Long Eaton speedway when there was poster splashed all across the stadium telling you about the next meeting and all around the town. How many clubs now have even used a poster to let people know about a meeting. It was only 3 years ago when trawling the internet that I found that speedway was again running at Leicester, how many people are there who don't do that. We are now nothing but a minor sport that has lost its way. The BPSA has failed to find a new sponser this year, they can not stand to lose the money they have lost from Sky now not sponsering our sport. So yes put the lad on a bike and show folks that we have not died and lets hope that we can once again get British speedway as it once was the top of the tree in the sport. Because the way we are going now speedway is dyeing on its feet. The glory days have gone and now we are the bottom of the pile. We can see this as we are losing teams every year because they can't make it pay any longer. It is time for some radical changes to be made to save speedway in this country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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