uk_martin Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Interesting to read about the analysis of Michael Schumacher's skiing injuries now being attributable to the GoPro camera that he had attached to his helmet. Reading between the lines, what this probably means is that the impact, rather than being distributed around the whole of the helmet seems to have been localised at the point of the camera mount, causing more pressure per square inch at that point, and the rest as they say is history.I wonder if the authorities will take any notice of the dangers of these devices when deciding on whether to continue the use of Helmet cams in speedway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I have been told that they're already not allowed at European meetings. Can't find any rule though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uk_martin Posted October 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I've seen them in use in SEC and SGP meetings, with Tai Woffinden and Martin Smolinski being two regular wearers that come to mind...what is it about Germans and GoPro cameras? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Nick Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Would have thought the smaller Air Pro ones would be safer. They're smaller and could possibly be attached to the side of the helmet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I'm a big "hater" of these cams. Safety is my main concern. Like said on this thread earlier, when you attach it, the helmet is no longer a ball, but has something sticking out of it. That something will take all the energy of the impact and come through the helmet. A LOONG time ago when I last time was buying myself a helmet it said in the small print that dont put stickers on it or paint it, because it will change the tension (wrong word, try to imagine what I mean) of the helmet. This piece of news regarding Schumi apparently lead to GoPro's stock going down 10% yesterday. There are also some issues regarding the copyright and other things related to the material the cameras produce while used in official meetings. That might not be a problem in the UK though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusky Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 I too am a little confused by the use of Go-Pro camera's and the like. A few years ago there was the rage of putting Shark fins onto helmets, and I'm fairly sure they were banned on safety grounds. I would of thought that cameras were similar in context to the shark fins. You would definitely think that the camera mount could be considered as altering the structure of the helmet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 15, 2014 Report Share Posted October 15, 2014 Would have thought the smaller Air Pro ones would be safer. They're smaller and could possibly be attached to the side of the helmet? Surely there is as much chance of a rider hitting the side of his head as the top of his head. Or riders would need full helmets, just the bit on the top of their head Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) Putting a protruding object on a helmet is potentially dangerous to both the wearer and other competitors, and the fixing creates a weak point in the shell structure. They shouldn't be allowed, and they're certainly banned in four-wheeled motor sport unless they're part of an integrated helmet design. It's pretty astonishing that riders are prepared to compromise on their safety in this manner. Edited October 16, 2014 by Humphrey Appleby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f-s-p Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Putting a protruding object on a helmet is potentially dangerous to both the wearer and other competitors, and the fixing creates a weak point in the shell structure. They shouldn't be allowed, and they're certainly banned in four-wheeled motor sport unless they're part of an integrated helmet design. It's pretty astonishing that riders are prepared to compromise on their safety in this manner. My point exactly. Check this out, kind of put's it all in one pic. First you lose control, get caught by your nuts and the go to the track/fence head first. I've seen Woffinden attach a rear camera on the side of the bike, which I feel is even worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 In American Flat track at least the cameras are not allowed to be attached to a helmet but are allowed on the bike which seems sensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whisperer Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 The French journalist who linked Michael Schumacher's head injuries to the GoPro camera he was wearing when the accident took place has backtracked on his comments, insisting it was "his opinion". Jean Louis Moncet, a well-known Formula 1 journalist in France, initially claimed the camera was "part of the problem" and seemed to suggest he had spoken to Schumacher's son, Mick, who presumably passed on the details. Shares in GoPro, the American wearable camera maker, plunged on Monday as investors reacted to the comments, which raised safety concerns about the device that is usually attached to the helmet. Source "The Independent" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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