Terry Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 That's got to be the worst refereeing decision ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 What a crock, ref being centre of attention again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 If thats not all 4 back there should never be an all 4 back decision EVER again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Harsh exclusion maybe, as it was at the start, but it was Gollob's fault. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 how can you blame Gollob for that Gollob did not line up straight, his wheel pointed outwards and as soon as the tapes went up he moved off his line and hit Nicki. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 100% Correct decision. Awful commentary. I love Sam, but he was making things up there. Nicki went perfectly straight, didn't lean over and was simply rode into by Gollob. Tough call, but correct. The incident wasn't bunching, it was entirely caused by Gollob veering of line into Pedersen. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reviresco Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) That was one of the worst decisions I've seen in watching speedway for 40+ years. Totally agree that, on that basis, there should never be another All 4 Back again. Edited July 11, 2015 by macca56 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Nicki kept his line all the way until Gollob hit him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 If thats not all 4 back there should never be an all 4 back decision EVER again! There was only one person responsible for the rerun and he has been correctly excluded. Gollob drove into the side of Nicki. Bye Bye. Sam the Mouth stokes it again. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 It was the right decision BUT Pawlicki did the same in heat 20 and the guy off gate 4 was excluded due to the domino effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Thanks for the company guys. Shame it had to end with controversy. Emil and Nicki in a two man race for the title. Onwards to Sweden. Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 ALL four surely ... no consideration for the fans. Unless ref is 100 per cent one rider is to blame then all four is the obvious choice. Shades of Marek and Leigh Adams at Cardiff a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 ALL four surely ... no consideration for the fans. Unless ref is 100 per cent one rider is to blame then all four is the obvious choice. Shades of Marek and Leigh Adams at Cardiff a few years ago. It was 100%. There is no argument about that, only one rider rode into the other. It's just not often enforced. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 It was 100%. There is no argument about that, only one rider rode into the other. It's just not often enforced. NO argument? There's one going on here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 Gollob had to go there, no other decision possible to make. Gollob deliberately steered out towards Nicki and this caused Nicki to crash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 (edited) Immediately I said Gollobs fault, then the announcers were saying all four back and I was thinking "What!" It used to be you go straight for the first 20 yeards or something like (cant remember) Obviously Gollob didnt go straight - right from the off he was on his way out wards towards Nicki. Correct decision. Overall not a brilliant meeting. i was looking for any rider that could be a permanent GP wildcard next year, and apart from the obvious (Emil) I couldnt really see one. No one else struck me as being outstanding with consistancy. Edited July 11, 2015 by OveFundinFan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spiegal Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 If a foot rest goes into a front wheel, that by all reason means that one bike was in front of another. As Riso said, if there is even the slightest doubt should always be all 4. It spoilt an excellent meeting and robbed the crowd of a top race...he's a strange man indeed. Had my moments over the years with Grodski....perhaps the most unfathomable FIM standard official I have ever encounted. There are "refs" on this forum, be interesting to see their comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 ALL four surely ... no consideration for the fans. Unless ref is 100 per cent one rider is to blame then all four is the obvious choice. Shades of Marek and Leigh Adams at Cardiff a few years ago. No way. You cannot refrain from excluding a rider just for the fans, coz' then we would never get anyone excluded because ffans want to see 4 riders. The rules still apply to the start and first bend. Gollob caused the crash entirely in his own. The all 4 back is way over used and we have seen too many times riders being allowed back when they should have been excluded. Referees uses it as a way to allow them not to having to make an unpopular decision. Kudos to the referee for actually daring to exclude a rider, most referee would would take the easy (but wrong) way out by making an all 4 back call. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 NO argument? There's one going on here There is no argument over who caused it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted July 11, 2015 Report Share Posted July 11, 2015 As Riso said, if there is even the slightest doubt should always be all 4. Guess what? Rosco is wrong. Gollob delibritely hit Nicki so then he should take the consequences. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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