marko Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 As an EL/NL rider could Adam take advantage of guest bookings in the PL? I think though, sooner rather than later Adam will be given a team place at that level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 As an EL/NL rider could Adam take advantage of guest bookings in the PL? I think though, sooner rather than later Adam will be given a team place at that level. It would be a shame if he can't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted January 24, 2015 Report Share Posted January 24, 2015 The fault with all this is that the PL resolutely refuse to have anything to do with training young Brits and prefer to pack their sides with foreign riders. Unless and until the PL come on board with an eqivilant of the FTDR or in some other way Give preference to young Brits over foreign inports there will always be problems of this nature.  The PL were the first (in modern times) to try a British reserve scheme. There was no interest in the slightest shown by the EL.  The EL introduced a Fast Track system (a good idea), but make no mistake it was driven by financial issues. Financially the PL don't have the same issue, but are now the bad guys for not supporting it  The comment I've quoted was the EL two years ago. And they haven't changed due to a sudden conversion telling them to train young Brits and give them a chance.  Any blame lies entirely with the BSPA. A comical organisation who show absolutely no leadership or direction. That is the umbrella organisation that should have developing a successful and sustainable sport in the UK. But it is entirely run by self interest. And as a result we are where we are.  An organisation who claimed it was illegal to limit non-Brits in their teams even in the Elite League (total poppycock). Yet the same organisation that has been asleep on their watch when abusing the Visa system. The level of incompetence amazes me. But view it from self interest, and you see why this has happened.  People can argue all day that the BSPA aren't responsible for the Visa issues. Same people different hats. If such an organisations wants to abdicate all responsibility to its members, the fine. Just illustrates how weak its influence is.  The introduction of Fast Tracking is great. The concept of a clear progression from NL through PL to EL is exactly what should be there. But lets not make the PL the fall guys. The EL is guilty for years of not supporting British opportunities. The number of full-time Brits in the EL has been basically embarrassing for some time. Then suddenly the EL hits hard times (well finally recognises it to be exact), drops its snobbery and invites a huge batch of riders into its league (including riders signed by teams who's promoters know nothing about them) and expects the PL to play ball. Trouble is the sport is still run through self interest.  The EL, PL and NL should work in harmony with a single strategy. But it doesn't. You'd hope the BSPA would make this happen. But it doesn't. The PL should support Fast Tracking as part of a single strategy. But if they did, would you trust the EL to support the strategy as a whole. I wouldn't. They'd happily shaft the PL in their own interests. And who believes the EL would continue to support Fast Tracking if they suddenly came into big money?  Until the sport is run from the top by a single organisation (without self interest) from juniors to Elite, then we'll never get a coherent structure. And that isn't going to happen, because promoters will never release that level of control. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 It would be a shame if he can't.replace shame with disgrace IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattK Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 As an EL/NL rider could Adam take advantage of guest bookings in the PL? I think though, sooner rather than later Adam will be given a team place at that level. Â I don't think so: Â 18.11.2 The Guest must be in a current Team Declaration. Â This rule is in both the Elite League Meeting Regulations (section 17) and Premier League Meeting Regulations (section 18), which suggests it applies to each league separately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 Â I don't think so: Â 18.11.2 The Guest must be in a current Team Declaration. Â This rule is in both the Elite League Meeting Regulations (section 17) and Premier League Meeting Regulations (section 18), which suggests it applies to each league separately. I assume you are still referring to the 2014 version?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I assume you are still referring to the 2014 version?!lets hope the 2015 version and beyond are different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 if he can't guest, can he still get a team place and ride all 3 leagues ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 if he can't guest, can he still get a team place and ride all 3 leagues ? I would have thought he could. As long as his PL average allows him to also be in the NL which i think it does. replace shame with disgrace IMO. A bit harsh. Nobody should automatically have a team place, it should always be because he was chosen to ride for the team. Adam is very unlucky not to get a ride in the PL, but I don't think it will be long before a team comes calling. Within the first month if not before. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 I would have thought he could. As long as his PL average allows him to also be in the NL which i think it does. Â A bit harsh. Nobody should automatically have a team place, it should always be because he was chosen to ride for the team. Adam is very unlucky not to get a ride in the PL, but I don't think it will be long before a team comes calling. Within the first month if not before. Crossed wires on this one I think - I was refering to him being able to guest or otherwise.The fact he hasnt got a PL place at the outset is down to a specific set of circumstances. If he was then to be blocked from guesting in the PL Id say that would be the disgrace. I hope he does indeed get back into the PL quickly. I thought however with an average over 4 he couldnt then continue in the NL??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 if he can't guest, can he still get a team place and ride all 3 leagues ? Steve Worral did last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 So did Paul Starke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 25, 2015 Report Share Posted January 25, 2015 But they both started the season with a sub 4 average. Unless there is a change that could be a block for Adam. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted January 27, 2015 Report Share Posted January 27, 2015 Appears from Lewis Bridger tweet he has had a change of mind as regards doing speedway. Will there be an inspired promoter prepared to sign him up especially if the visa issue continues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted January 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 (edited) Appears from Lewis Bridger tweet he has had a change of mind as regards doing speedway. Will there be an inspired promoter prepared to sign him up especially if the visa issue continues? Well that break lasted a long time! Â In all seriousness, I always expected that his time away from the sport would only be a season long. He has sold his equipment hasn't he? Edited January 28, 2015 by Mjolnir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Maybe with the visa issues, Lewis (and many EU riders) feel they can demand and get a better deal from those clubs that maybe 'over a barrel'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Maybe with the visa issues, Lewis (and many EU riders) feel they can demand and get a better deal from those clubs that maybe 'over a barrel'? Â That's a very good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phillipsr Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Knew it wouldnt take long for the superstar in his own head to reconsider. Just craves attention hope no promoter goes near him. Not worth it on his average either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel1 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Sadly Lewis has yet to find his way and if / when he does he will become a "slow starter" when the historians get to work else a totally lost cause! The talent is there but the desire, who knows as self-belief is surely not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted January 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 (edited) Well Lewis' retirement must be one of the shortest of all time! Â http://www.lakesidehammers.co/content/?p=8990 Â As a speedway fan, I'm pleased that he has changed his mind as he's an entertaining rider who can beat anyone when he's at his best. Â As a Lakeside fan, it's disappointing that he ruled himself out of a team place only to return to the sport shortly after the Lakeside team had been announced. I'm sure most Lakeside fans would have wanted him back this year. Â So much potential, but things like this just seem a bit odd. If he wasn't enjoying his speedway at the end of last season, what has changed before this season has even begun? Â Although I'm pleased for Lewis, I do feel for Woodward! Edited January 30, 2015 by Mjolnir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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