SCB Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) This business about averages seems straightforward to me. This involves three riders all, of whom, were in the Brummies' line-up at the start of the 2014 season. Danny was signed on 7.46, Ben 6.47 and Ed 6.39. Then, during the 2014 season, their averages changed resulting in new figures by the time Birmingham dropped out. Ed was released before then and, at that time, was carrying an average of 5.48 which moved to 5.25 following Greensheets issued wef. 1st July. Danny's had dropped to 6.71 and Ben's 5.94. Later, Ben signed for Coventry on, surprise surprise, 5.94, and Danny for Lakeside 6.71. Now for 2015. Danny has joined Coventry on 6.74, his final EL average in 2014 and confirmed on the Bees' website. Ed will be 5.25 and Ben, if signed up in the EL, will be 5.94. But Dannys end of season average does NOT take into account his 2014 Birmingham meetings. Sometimes between him signing for Lakeside and signing for Coventry his Birmingham meetings have been removed. His average according to my figures from his last 28 meetings is 6.50 - but the BSPA website lists him as 6.74. Now if I used his last 28 meetings, going back to 2013 Birmingham and his 2014 Lakeside and NOT including his 2014 Birmingham I get, 6.74!! So it seems that they have removed his 2014 Brimingham meetings. Edited December 18, 2014 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocha Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 But Dannys end of season average does NOT take into account his 2014 Birmingham meetings. Sometimes between him signing for Lakeside and signing for Coventry his Birmingham meetings have been removed. His average according to my figures from his last 28 meetings is 6.50 - but the BSPA website lists him as 6.74. Now if I used his last 28 meetings, going back to 2013 Birmingham and his 2014 Lakeside and NOT including his 2014 Birmingham I get, 6.74!! So it seems that they have removed his 2014 Brimingham meetings. I am not in possession of your figures. Therefore I am using those only available to me, Greensheets as provided by the BSPA. Therefore, check these throughout he 2014 season, then explain where they are wrong: http://www.speedwaygb.co/elteamissues14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I am not in possession of your figures. Therefore I am using those only available to me, Greensheets as provided by the BSPA. Therefore, check these throughout he 2014 season, then explain where they are wrong: http://www.speedwaygb.co/elteamissues14 Danny was on 6.11 in October but despite not riding a single league meeting in October (of the last week of Sept) his average went up to 6.74 - how so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Surely teams that have announced riders and some with full teams have had the averages verified.Or else some teams may have gone over the 34 point limit or indeed further under the 34 points which may have enabled them to strengthen more.I wouldn't mind betting every club knows what average their riders have in their respective teams,it's just us fans that always seem to be left in the dark. You are obviously not aware of the problems surrounding Somerset. Be that as it may, why should Lakeside announce Kennets average when no othe club announces their riders average. If it was common place for clubs to give the riders average I could see the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 You are obviously not aware of the problems surrounding Somerset. Be that as it may, why should Lakeside announce Kennets average when no othe club announces their riders average. If it was common place for clubs to give the riders average I could see the point. Wolves have announced Musielak as 6.50!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) well he certainly chickened out when ford called off the match 2013, surely he had it in his power to refuse any bribes of payment for travel expenses and expected poole to stick to the agreed fixture, poole were even told by the scb to revert back but didnt and then concocted this ''agreement'' with lakeside cook shouild of had the ''balls'' to stick up for his team and the rules...... but for that lakeside would of probably of been in the playoffs..... We have been over this's thousand times. The only people with the power to call off a fixture are the home promoter until the referee takes charge of a meeting, then the power rests with the ref. if you say otherwise please quote the rule or rules you say he should have stood up for, because nobody has been able to do so yet . Ford defied the BSPA but according to SS the matter was going before BSPA the following July and they did nothing. Belle Vue called off a match in similar circumstances, but they were fined £5000 for lying about the reason. Wolves have announced Musielak as 6.50!!As a foreign rider new to Britain his average is assessed differently. I belive it is Peter Oakes that works the average out based on continental performances.. Edited December 18, 2014 by E I Addio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixie Dean Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 happy xmas to all lakeside fans and a prosperous new year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted December 23, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) happy xmas to all lakeside fans and a prosperous new year You too! According to the Speedway Star, we only have 5.96 remaining ... I'm hoping that's not right! I guess nobody knows for sure until the averages are confirmed. Edited December 23, 2014 by Mjolnir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 You too! According to the Speedway Star, we only have 5.96 remaining ... I'm hoping that's not right! I guess nobody knows for sure until the averages are confirmed. 5.96 = kiss and make up with Richie Worrall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 5.96 = kiss and make up with Richie Worrall?you expecting Somerset to get shot of him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 you expecting Somerset to get shot of him? Opps. Totally forgot. Maybe not then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 Opps. Totally forgot. Maybe not then!stranger things have happened though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 You too! According to the Speedway Star, we only have 5.96 remaining ... I'm hoping that's not right! I guess nobody knows for sure until the averages are confirmed. Speedway Star have got it wrong as usual. They must print the first thing that comes into their head without checking anything. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 24, 2014 Report Share Posted December 24, 2014 PK to return ? His big problem has been getting a set up to work for him with the new silencer but that could change and the real Peter Karlsson would be seen again. Wolves obviously have first choice on his services but they really need a heat leader so two six point riders may not interest them. Jonsson Bech Lawson Karlsson Kennett Could be solid and certainly strong at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I feel for Lakeside fans llosing Bridger, on his day can look world class, you must be gutted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 I feel for Lakeside fans llosing Bridger, on his day can look world class, you must be gutted Bridger world class? When was that then? He's nothing more than ordinary and has flattered to deceive after showing plenty of potential as a 16 year old. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 Bridger world class? When was that then? He's nothing more than ordinary and has flattered to deceive after showing plenty of potential as a 16 year old. Yes on his day IMO can look world class, was at Poole early on this year, was looking forward to watch Bech. Having watched a lot of big names over the years at Poole, never ever have i seen a rider ride such as Bridger did in his rides, he was just in a class of his own. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnglishRoundabout Posted December 28, 2014 Report Share Posted December 28, 2014 You still on the sherry sommelier? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 You still on the sherry sommelier? Sherru, no, like my name says, just the wine!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven101 Posted December 29, 2014 Report Share Posted December 29, 2014 Ill back sommelier up here he has looked literally unbeatable round arlington at times the only one that made the outside line work since the pedersen days, but other days bridger looked woeful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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