Mjolnir Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 With how the fixtures are set up this season I hope this means AJ will be back leading the hammers. I hope so! And ideally I hope it will be on a re-assessed average after a few years out, as the new format is undoubtedly tougher for heatleaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 I hope so! And ideally I hope it will be on a re-assessed average after a few years out, as the new format is undoubtedly tougher for heatleaders. Â Â So long as its a re-assessment for ALL returning riders to the EL who haven't ridden here in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) So long as its a re-assessment for ALL returning riders to the EL who haven't ridden here in a while. If it's been a few seasons then I mostly agree - and I mean both ways, as heatleaders and second strings who have been away from British speedway will be on false averages for opposite reasons. We'd have to be careful not to over compensate - but it probably won't happen anyway! Â It's not exactly a new issue, it's just that I think the new format has highlighted it in more of a widespread way. I probably want an unachievable middle ground though! To be fair the second string averages from last season have been left alone so I doubt other riders will be weighted or re-assessed. Edited November 17, 2014 by Mjolnir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted November 17, 2014 Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 If it's been a few seasons then I mostly agree - and I mean both ways, as heatleaders and second strings who have been away from British speedway will be on false averages for opposite reasons. We'd have to be careful not to over compensate - but it probably won't happen though! Â Â Its wishful thinking but what a great idea to get riders back to the EL. One can dream! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted November 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 17, 2014 (edited) Its wishful thinking but what a great idea to get riders back to the EL. One can dream! Haha ... we certainly can! Â (I've just edited my original post but what you quoted is more or less the same, I just waffled a bit more) Edited November 17, 2014 by Mjolnir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusTokio Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm not quite sure how much inside knowledge this piece has, but it seems to suggest that Lakeside might be looking at Woodward http://www.swindonlinksport.com/swindon_sports_news/runnersandriders2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm not quite sure how much inside knowledge this piece has, but it seems to suggest that Lakeside might be looking at Woodward http://www.swindonlinksport.com/swindon_sports_news/runnersandriders2015 Â A lot of it is just his opinion and not based on anything factual!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm not quite sure how much inside knowledge this piece has, but it seems to suggest that Lakeside might be looking at Woodward http://www.swindonlinksport.com/swindon_sports_news/runnersandriders2015 Hope not. Agreed Cams a nice bloke and I wish him well, but Lakeside's need is for an all out No 1. Can't see what Cam can offer that is not already covered by Watt, King, Lawson or Nilsson. If any of them are changed it needs to be for someone with a bit more potential than CJW. Anyway, we have had the clearest hint from Jon Cooke that Lawson is nailed on and very possibly Nilsson . Would be very surprised , even shocked if Cam gets in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Hope not. Agreed Cams a nice bloke and I wish him well, but Lakeside's need is for an all out No 1. Can't see what Cam can offer that is not already covered by Watt, King, Lawson or Nilsson. If any of them are changed it needs to be for someone with a bit more potential than CJW. Anyway, we have had the clearest hint from Jon Cooke that Lawson is nailed on and very possibly Nilsson . Would be very surprised , even shocked if Cam gets in. I think Woodward will have a few offers in the EL, I'd take him as 2nd string. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vincent Vega Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 I hope Watt dont come back Poole can keep him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
liam Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Agree I think it's time for Watt to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TitusTokio Posted November 19, 2014 Report Share Posted November 19, 2014 Â A lot of it is just his opinion and not based on anything factual!! That's what I thought but I think he's a proper journalist so maybe he's hiding facts amongst the opinion? You might be right though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 So will this be the likely hammers team for 2015? Â A.J, Lawson Watt Swidersky King Birks Ellis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 So will this be the likely hammers team for 2015? Â A.J, Lawson Watt Swidersky King Birks Ellis Nice one Wiseguy - exactly the team I'm predicting. Â Top 5 solid, with one big hitter. Going to be tough for us at reserve tho. Will need to get Ashley converted to small tracks, like Richard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseguy Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Nice one Wiseguy - exactly the team I'm predicting. Â Top 5 solid, with one big hitter. Going to be tough for us at reserve tho. Will need to get Ashley converted to small tracks, like Richard On paper Lakeside should be stronger with Birks getting more points than Morley,away at least,but gutted Ben didn't get a pick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 So will this be the likely hammers team for 2015? A.J, Lawson Watt Swidersky King Birks Ellis No. That team is more than 1.5 over the limit. Even if we assume Davey is back at Poole which seems more likely than not, and you replaced him with Kim Nilsson you would still be a bit over. To make that team fit you would either have to replace Watt with someone lower than 5.52 or bring in Nilsson to replace Watt and replace Swidderski with someone a 6.07 or lower. Simon Gustafsson would be ok if he hadn't decided to take a year out, but apart from him there is nobody I can think of that could really do a job. Cam Woodward would have fitted but he is too much of an accident waiting to happen for my liking, and unlikely to improve much anyway. Â Of the riders in last years EL you could only make it fit by having Lasse Bjerre in place of Watt and keeping the others mentioned or bring in someone from new from abroad. We will have to wait and see but if AJ comes it seems to me that there will be a very long tail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Does Nilsson for King fit in that team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mjolnir Posted November 26, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Although I'm not certain about the rules regarding this, is there no chance that AJ's average would be reassessed if he returns next season? He has been away for a few years now, and if I'm honest I don't think any rider would easily maintain that average in the new format. Â I'm happy with Birks and Ellis - both of them are riders that I think will improve throughout the season. I do think that some of the other clubs have stronger pairings on paper (I won't comment any further than that), but anything can happen - look at some of the riders that Ben Morley beat last season! It's a shame that he won't be with us next season but I'm sure we'll see him if we need guests ... although hopefully that won't be too often! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 Does Nilsson for King fit in that team? No. King and Watt are virtually on the same CMA. So if you had either Watt or King I don't think you could have both Swidderski and Nilsson, you would have to have one or the other. Anyway, the Wolves thread says King has signed for an EL club and I am pretty sure that would be Lakeside, as the Hammers have first call on his services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daytripper Posted November 26, 2014 Report Share Posted November 26, 2014 (edited) Â Although I'm not certain about the rules regarding this, is there no chance that AJ's average would be reassessed if he returns next season? He has been away for a few years now, and if I'm honest I don't think any rider would easily maintain that average in the new format. I'm happy with Birks and Ellis - both of them are riders that I think will improve throughout the season. I do think that some of the other clubs have stronger pairings on paper (I won't comment any further than that), but anything can happen - look at some of the riders that Ben Morley beat last season! It's a shame that he won't be with us next season but I'm sure we'll see him if we need guests ... although hopefully that won't be too often! A J would apprently come in on a 9.03, the same as PUK. Edited November 26, 2014 by Daytripper 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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