racers and royals Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Fair enough. Been sitting on the receiving end of the stick (for the day for EVERYTHING), so feeling a tad touchy... Still, my original question regarding the actual agreement is valid. Humpty Applepie should also awake to fact that what he thinks is rubbish, is basically agreed on paper a few years prior. Got that off my chest... Cheers! It was all your fault though You should have delegated like BSI do and then accepted no responsibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradford Ace Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) HAVEN'T seen much praise on here about the track. I'm not in Melbourne so can only comment from afar but it looked terrific and the extra size provided plenty of racing lines. It was still smaller than the new one at BV which is currently in the process of being laid. Thought the track was outstanding - was smooth, had plenty of material on it & produced great racing lines. And it looked the proper shale colour. Just baffles & annoys me even more that in comparison the Cardiff track is so crap. Aussies do this on their 1st attempt & yet we have had over a dozen at Cardiff & they still can't get it right....why??? It doesn't even look like a proper track for gods sake. It looks like a sandy beach, they don't ever water it, it has barely any material on it & the racing is non existant. Maybe u have an insight into this Phil cos it bugs me big time. There's usually 20 or so of us that go & we're all sick of the poor racing so have sacked it off next year. There's only so many times u can go for the "atmosphere" only to be let down by the actual product. There was 21 of us in Torun this year & I think that group of us will only grow there with many sacrificing Cardiff for something a million times better. Edited October 24, 2015 by Bradford Ace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Anyone know if Masters was fined for his attack on the guy in pit lane? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazyb Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 No different to when Rickardson & Crump won everything. That was boring.. Crump was excellent on commentary today. Jason was good, and so was David Tapp, MUCH better than listening to the mouth that is Pearson. Never made a mistake either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Jason was good, and so was David Tapp, MUCH better than listening to the mouth that is Pearson. Never made a mistake either. Yes he did, made several. Once folk had listened to him a number of times they'd be complaining about his stock phrases etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) HAVEN'T seen much praise on here about the track. I'm not in Melbourne so can only comment from afar but it looked terrific and the extra size provided plenty of racing lines. It was still smaller than the new one at BV which is currently in the process of being laid. Thought the track was outstanding - was smooth, had plenty of material on it & produced great racing lines. And it looked the proper shale colour. Just baffles & annoys me even more that in comparison the Cardiff track is so crap. Aussies do this on their 1st attempt & yet we have had over a dozen at Cardiff & they still can't get it right....why??? It doesn't even look like a proper track for gods sake. It looks like a sandy beach, they don't ever water it, it has barely any material on it & the racing is non existant. Maybe u have an insight into this Phil cos it bugs me big time. There's usually 20 or so of us that go & we're all sick of the poor racing so have sacked it off next year. There's only so many times u can go for the "atmosphere" only to be let down by the actual product. There was 21 of us in Torun this year & I think that group of us will only grow there with many sacrificing Cardiff for something a million times better. DON'T really have any insight ... certainly the fact that the track was significantly bigger helped produce more racing lines. Obviously the material used wouldn't be identical in every respect but it was Olsen who went to Australia earlier in the year to source it. Incidentally, they do water the track at Cardiff but rarely before the semis and final. Riders don't like a freshly watered track. Edited October 24, 2015 by PHILIPRISING Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Question for Philip Rising , do you know if the ref has apologised yet for excluding Chris Harris? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 nice to see the gp"s out of Europe, its actually got a "world" championship feel today..usa round would be fantastic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Jason was good, and so was David Tapp, MUCH better than listening to the mouth that is Pearson. Never made a mistake either.Tapp made umpteen mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topaz325 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Tapp made umpteen mistakes. Yes he called Sam Masters Rocky B..... Thought the commentary was very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Yes he called Sam Masters Rocky B..... Thought the commentary was very good. i enjoyed it and they are only human, mistakes dont bother me either, but he made a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) All adds to the excitement. Nothing wrong with a little punch up now and again. Not what you said in the Edinburgh/Sheffiled thread post 43, when commenting on Masters hitting Baby Bjerre .... Quote ... "Bjerre wasn't stuck under his bike at all his bike was at the side of him he was sitting leaning against the air fence when Sam went over and kneeled down beside him lost it and punched him. I'm not defending Sam as what he did was wrong" C'mon MrB on Edinburgh/Glasgow threads you might get away with your bullish, tongue in cheek bias. But on a GP thread, like Sam Masters in a GP, you're in with the big boys. Edited October 24, 2015 by george.m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 sam must have been a handful in the play ground when he was a kid at school. fighting with all the other kids a few years below .. . dont think he has grown up yet or ever will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Well Masters got his 2 minute fame and the praise of his australian buddies he wont get anywhere near a GP again... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Not what you said in the Edinburgh/Sheffiled thread post 43, when commenting on Masters hitting Baby Bjerre .... Quote ... "Bjerre wasn't stuck under his bike at all his bike was at the side of him he was sitting leaning against the air fence when Sam went over and kneeled down beside him lost it and punched him. I'm not defending Sam as what he did was wrong" C'mon MrB on Edinburgh/Glasgow threads you might get away with your bullish, tongue in cheek bias. But on a GP thread, like Sam Masters in a GP, you're in with the big boys. On that occasion yes as Bjerre didn't do anything. You can clearly see one of nicki mechanics provoking Sam as he was walking away back to the pits then it all kicked off again. It is just a shame that this incident has over shadowed what was a good night for him on the track as he mixed it well with the best in the world. Edited October 24, 2015 by Mr Blobby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
george.m Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 On that occasion yes as Bjerre didn't do anything. You can clearly see one of nicki mechanics provoking Sam as he was walking away back to the pits then it all kicked off again. It is just a shame that this incident has over shadowed what was a good night for him on the track as he mixed it well with the best in the world. I actually like Sam, but he needs to curb that temper. Throwing punches does him no favours whether provoked or not. Even if you view it from a sporting POV, rather than a moral one, he's showing others his weakness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Blobby Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 I actually like Sam, but he needs to curb that temper. Throwing punches does him no favours whether provoked or not. Even if you view it from a sporting POV, rather than a moral one, he's showing others his weakness. Agreed. I don't understand were it comes from either as he's so laid back it's ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawkins20 Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Provoked or not it cant be all right throwing sucker punches and starting fights at any speedway track. The least what refs have to do is disqualify the rider immediately from the meeting... Then a massive fine and half year ban at least after that all the other riders will realize that they cant get away with that stuff. Lot of riders actually praising violence and saying its all right to attack fellow riders... Quote from N. Klindt: "obv shouldn't be violent in sports, but speedway need more of this to keep it alive. the fans love it!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Well Masters got his 2 minute fame and the praise of his australian buddies he wont get anywhere near a GP again... Well, unless he qualifies someday. I really don't see what's so wrong with riders having a bit of a go at each other on the slowdown lap. Down the years we've had Nicholls/Dryml, Nicholls/Sayfutdinov, Crump/Holder, Pedersen/practically everyone, etc... It just adds to the entertainment. It's when it spills into the pits and mechanics, managers and hanger ons get involved that needs to be seriously looked at. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted October 24, 2015 Report Share Posted October 24, 2015 Provoked or not it cant be all right throwing sucker punches and starting fights at any speedway track. The least what refs have to do is disqualify the rider immediately from the meeting... Then a massive fine and half year ban at least after that all the other riders will realize that they cant get away with that stuff. Lot of riders actually praising violence and saying its all right to attack fellow riders... Quote from N. Klindt: "obv shouldn't be violent in sports, but speedway need more of this to keep it alive. the fans love it!" have to say, N Klindt statement isn't far off the mark....nicholls/sayfutinov greg/nicki, gollob/boyce, fantastic television. im clearly not saying its right, but it certainly livens up proceedings, and daily star coverage from Cardiff after scotty/emil was a full page spread, its still talked about now...would I watch that, or the garbage from warsaw? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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