iris123 Posted October 4, 2015 Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 What ever happened to Malaysia? It is still there,although a bit hard to see through the haze,so I am told 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britmet Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 What ever happened to Malaysia? . The scheme in Malaysia that Mauger ran was supported by the government of the day to keep the youngsters off the streets and out of trouble. (It mainly used mopeds and small such bikes stripped down, with just a few pukka bikes and displays of what we know as broadsiding speedway.) . When the government changed the new administration weren't interested and the scheme collapsed. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 Despite Tai winning the title, I think the people in Melbourne will put on a show and get, at the least, a break-even attendance. Giving them a platform to build next year's event on, maybe with one of the Aussies still in contention for the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColinMills Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 its nothing more than an open meeting feel to it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OveFundinFan Posted October 5, 2015 Report Share Posted October 5, 2015 If Cardiff was the last GP of the season, and the World Champ had been effectively crowned at the GP before - would I still go?? Of course I would. And I would expect the newly crowned world champ to put on a good display 1) because he wants to assert his authority as world champ 2) because he would be so relaxed that it would probably bring the best out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozrik Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Speedway fans will still go, even if just to see the best riders in the world strut their stuff. Tricky bit will be to get non speedway people to go. Torun was a great gp, and now the pressure is off maybe the riders will turn it on in Melbourne. A great promotion for speedway in Australia. What would top it off would be an Aussie rider winning it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted October 6, 2015 Report Share Posted October 6, 2015 Speedway fans will still go, even if just to see the best riders in the world strut their stuff. Tricky bit will be to get non speedway people to go. Torun was a great gp, and now the pressure is off maybe the riders will turn it on in Melbourne. A great promotion for speedway in Australia. What would top it off would be an Aussie rider winning it. In 2002 they had Crump, Adams, Sullivan and Wiltshire, all in their prime, and in a city with a speedway heritage and a superb venue but the attendance was dire. The fact that Rickardsson was champion the round before wouldn't have helped, a situation that has been repeated this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozrik Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 In 2002 they had Crump, Adams, Sullivan and Wiltshire, all in their prime, and in a city with a speedway heritage and a superb venue but the attendance was dire. The fact that Rickardsson was champion the round before wouldn't have helped, a situation that has been repeated this year And Crumpy got second. I understand crowd was about 32 000. Of course lots has changed since then, but what do you think the attendance would need to be to keep everyone happy. Around about the same would be good, and more would be fantastic. That number would put us only behind Cardiff, Warsaw and Stockholm. If Aussie wasn't that far away 32000 would be plenty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I understand crowd was about 32 000. How many paid though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 How many paid though? DON'T think David Lander was in the business of giving too many tickets away. Costs for that meeting were astronomical ... hiring of the Olympic Stadium (as it was originally known), flying 20 riders plus equipment from Europe, hotels, etc, etc. I didn't realise until I got there that (like Wembley/London) the stadium was a long way out of town, it was an unseasonably cold night and the meeting was live on TV. Lander did a lot right but unfortunately rapidly fell out with John Postlethwaite and insead of being able to build on the first one, and perhaps take it to a smaller stadium in Sydney the following year, he pulled the plug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 And Crumpy got second. I understand crowd was about 32 000. Of course lots has changed since then, but what do you think the attendance would need to be to keep everyone happy. Around about the same would be good, and more would be fantastic. That number would put us only behind Cardiff, Warsaw and Stockholm. If Aussie wasn't that far away 32000 would be plenty. The crowd was indeed 32,000 but, as Humphrey alluded to, lots of those were near giveaways near, and on, the day. That said they were already looking at 50,000 plus to break even so I think Lander rather got his fingers burned on that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pirateandi Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 That is correct. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20151024T1915&p1=152&p2=136&p3=198 That is correct. http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converted.html?iso=20151024T1915&p1=152&p2=136&p3=198 Actually it's going to start at 08.15am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Actually it's going to start at 08.15am 9.15am uk time I think- not on GMT until Saturday night ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostwalker Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) Actually it's going to start at 08.15am No check the link, that website takes summer/winter times into account so: Saturday 24 October 2015, 19:15:00 AEDT UTC+11 hours in Melbourne (Australia - Victoria) --> Saturday 24 October 2015, 09:15:00 BST UTC+1 hour in London (United Kingdom - England) Edited October 7, 2015 by Ghostwalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RPNY Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 I think and very much hope Melbourne is a mega success. ONLY worry is that all the medal positions and top 8 are pretty much sewn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Costs for that meeting were astronomical ... hiring of the Olympic Stadium (as it was originally known), flying 20 riders plus equipment from Europe, hotels, etc, etc. How is it any different now, except the promoters (assuming it's the Ethiad themselves) won't have the stadium costs> I didn't realise until I got there that (like Wembley/London) the stadium was a long way out of town, it was an unseasonably cold night and the meeting was live on TV. They manage to fill it for NRL matches during the winter, and nearly 90K made it for the NRL Grand Final last week (which was also live on TV), so it can't be the whole reason. If indeed the Sydney GP did pull 32K fans (although I seem to recall the figure reported at the time was 25K), then I'd have said that was pretty decent as I can't imagine there are many more speedway fans than that in the whole of Australia. The sport has gone into even further decline since then, and Melbourne isn't a speedway city (or at least hasn't been for many years), although conversely flying around Australia is cheaper than it's every been and Melbourne is at least a destination. It will be interesting to see how Melbourne does, but more specifically how long it lasts... Lander did a lot right but unfortunately rapidly fell out with John Postlethwaite and insead of being able to build on the first one, and perhaps take it to a smaller stadium in Sydney the following year, he pulled the plug. Not sure why it wasn't staged in the (new) Sydney Showground next door in the first place. Interesting how both Lander and Buckley both ended-up falling out with BSI, albeit under different leaderships. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 (edited) How is it any different now, except the promoters (assuming it's the Ethiad themselves) won't have the stadium costs> How is it any different now, except the promoters (assuming it's the Ethiad themselves) won't have the stadium costs> IT is the Etihad themselves so that makes a massive difference and cost of transporting riders (15 not 20) and a deal with Etihad (the airline) helps significantly as well. There were undoubtedly many potential punters in Sydney who might have gone but for the weather and the fact that it was on TV. But, of course, you will challenge that. Edited October 7, 2015 by PHILIPRISING 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 How is it any different now, except the promoters (assuming it's the Ethiad themselves) won't have the stadium costs> They manage to fill it for NRL matches during the winter, and nearly 90K made it for the NRL Grand Final last week (which was also live on TV), so it can't be the whole reason. If indeed the Sydney GP did pull 32K fans (although I seem to recall the figure reported at the time was 25K), then I'd have said that was pretty decent as I can't imagine there are many more speedway fans than that in the whole of Australia. The sport has gone into even further decline since then, and Melbourne isn't a speedway city (or at least hasn't been for many years), although conversely flying around Australia is cheaper than it's every been and Melbourne is at least a destination. It will be interesting to see how Melbourne does, but more specifically how long it lasts... Not sure why it wasn't staged in the (new) Sydney Showground next door in the first place. Interesting how both Lander and Buckley both ended-up falling out with BSI, albeit under different leaderships. Hello Hump, do you ever post anything positive about the sport ? Just checking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humphrey Appleby Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Hello Hump, do you ever post anything positive about the sport ? Does anyone else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted October 7, 2015 Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 Hello Hump, do you ever post anything positive about the sport ? Just checking. Is there anything at the moment...................................................... Does anyone else? Errrrrrrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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