CB252 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Monster Joe has given Kildemand a character reference to confirm that it's all above board and the Robins can have a guest. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Monster Joe has given Kildemand a character reference to confirm that it's all above board and the Robins can have a guest. No doubt Matt Ford has okayed the cheating facility too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Dakota North or RR? I believe this was a known clash when Kildemand signed. A facility is probably appropriate in this instance. That's more of a reason not to have a facility. It would have been different if they signed him first not knowing. In the past you were never allowed one but maybe the rules have changed again although then why were Workington not allowed a facility at the weekend when Hansen had an international fixture clash? Guest options include Schlein, Holder, North, Watt, Karlsson, Bridger, Lawson, Zagar, Cook, Lambert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Like the time we had to go to Swindon with Todd Kurtz at number 1 in place of Emil Sayfutdinov? edit > it seems from chatting to someone else that all the international fixture list does is say that Kildemands priority is Sweden. It DOES NOT mean Swindon get a facility. Who gives a f**k. We have got one and the replacement will be sub standard compared to Killer so it won't matter. Add that to the fact your reserves will score double what ours will and it will be a nice easy night for you lot. Edited May 19, 2015 by thecoombdog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 That's more of a reason not to have a facility. It would have been different if they signed him first not knowing. In the past you were never allowed one but maybe the rules have changed again although then why were Workington not allowed a facility at the weekend when Hansen had an international fixture clash? Guest options include Schlein, Holder, North, Watt, Karlsson, Bridger, Lawson, Zagar, Cook, Lambert Dackarna are the only Swedish team not riding, hence Kylmakorpi being available for the Bees. So you can scrub out Schlein, Holder, Karlsson. As I said, North or RR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I'd question that. Swindon might say they're allowed a guest but I'd say they're not. Nothing in there about international fixture lists and priority. So what is rule C about if it isn`t about the international league fixtures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) I must say I'm surprised that Swindon have a facility for Peter in this match. It certainly didn't used to be the case when a rider was riding in another league. That's the way it is now, though. Guests have become so commonplace that they seem to be available for anything regardless of the rules. It wasn't that long ago that riders missing in this way had a 6 point PL guest or, failing that, were suspended. I remember Renat Gafurov being suspended from windon's side for missing a play-off semi and Swindon needed the facility to qualify so had to sacrifice him for the resst of te season. People may argue that guests are a neccesary evil, but it seems to be a bit out of control lately. Of course, Swindon could argue that, theoretically, they are replacing Adrien Miedzinski and his injury. But even AM is back riding in Poland. Edited May 19, 2015 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 (edited) Who gives a f**k. We have got one and the replacement will be sub standard compared to Killer so it won't matter. Add that to the fact your reserves will score double what ours will and it will be a nice easy night for you lot. But clearly SCB is more than happy to win at all costs...i imagine he's already sent his email to the authorities to question our use of a facility.... Edited May 19, 2015 by hagonshocker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think the big question should be why are Sky showing a meeting at all on a Tuesday when it is clearly Swedish league that night. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hagonshocker Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I must say I'm surprised that Swindon have a facility for Peter in this match. It certainly didn't used to be the case when a rider was riding in another league. That's the way it is now, though. Guests have become so commonplace that they seem to be available for anything regardless of the rules. It wasn't that long ago that riders missing in this way had a 6 point PL guest or, failing that, were suspended. I remember Renat Gafurov being suspended from windon's side for missing a play-off semi and Swindon needed the facility to qualify so had to sacrifice him for the resst of te season. People may argue that guests are a neccesary evil, but it seems to be a bit out of control lately. Of course, Swindon could argue that, theoretically, they are replacing Adrien Miedzinski and his injury. But even AM is back riding in Poland. The fact guests are out of control is a massive problem but at the end of the day it's hardly fair for fans to be shortchanged if forced to use a pl 6 pointer...even if admission is potentially a fiver! I think the big question should be why are Sky showing a meeting at all on a Tuesday when it is clearly Swedish league that night. Clearly trying to get one over Eurosport with viewing figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 The fact guests are out of control is a massive problem but at the end of the day it's hardly fair for fans to be shortchanged if forced to use a pl 6 pointer...even if admission is potentially a fiver! So presumably you'd also have no problem with, say, Poole also being allowed a guest even if it went against what is in the rule book? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 So what is rule C about if it isn`t about the international league fixtures. His own FMN would surely be the DMU (Denmark) but SVEMO(Sweden) so is it relevant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 I think the big question should be why are Sky showing a meeting at all on a Tuesday when it is clearly Swedish league that night. Would have been 2 x Full strength teams when it was arranged looking at things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Would have been 2 x Full strength teams when it was arranged looking at things. Does Adrian not ride on Sweden anymore then?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reliant Robin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Does Adrian not ride on Sweden anymore then?. No, he doesn't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 No wonder its a fiver lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YerRopes Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Who gives a f**k. We have got one and the replacement will be sub standard compared to Killer so it won't matter. Add that to the fact your reserves will score double what ours will and it will be a nice easy night for you lot. Good point... Swindon cannot use Killer cuz this fixture is on a Tuesday to suit Sky when everyone is riding in Sweden.. We will be so much weaker due to the lack of a decent guest but some demand a 6.00 PL rider to replace PK anyway.. Each to their own, but does anyone think that will benefit the sport ..it needs to be competitive surely.. This was going to be my first meeting of the season, but even a £5 doesn't do it for me - ho hum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted May 19, 2015 Report Share Posted May 19, 2015 Kildemand wasn't in Swindon's team when this fixture was moved. The only riders in either team that ride in Sweden are Andersen and Kylmakorpi, who are both contracted to Dackarna. Dackarna aren't riding next Tuesday. Can't really blame Sky. Both teams agreed to it on the basis that they would be at full strength. Don't know why some are moaning about the facility. There has always been an agreement in place with Svemo that would allow a facility in this instance. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Don't know why some are moaning about the facility. There has always been an agreement in place with Svemo that would allow a facility in this instance. There hasn't be. Last year when Berwick vs Newcastle was moved for Sky, Newcastle had to use a junior to replace Ludvig Lindgren. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 There hasn't be. Last year when Berwick vs Newcastle was moved for Sky, Newcastle had to use a junior to replace Ludvig Lindgren. I think that was 2013? The difference being that Lindgren was in the Newcastle team when the change was agreed. Still think it would be ridiculous to deny Swindon a facility in this instance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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