LisaColette Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Half the Poole assets don't even ride in England (as of last season anyway!) I don't think Dak has enough of a connection to ride bad against Poole. KK certainly didn't do that the 2010 playoff final! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Should be a limit to how many assets you own, so this would stop all this, I'll buy everyone so no one else can have him attitude. There should be no assets. Riders are self employed, promoters shouldn't be able to play God by refusing others permission to speak to 'their' riders. Has been said before but if somebody took the whole thing to court assets in speedway would be no more. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Half the Poole assets don't even ride in England (as of last season anyway!) I don't think Dak has enough of a connection to ride bad against Poole. KK certainly didn't do that the 2010 playoff final!To be fair to KK he has spent more time away from Poole anyway & was always the rider left out by them so had a point to prove. I'm not trying to get in an argument but I feel that it's becoming a farce with all the loan riders & the sooner riders become free agents like in Sweden & Poland the better. Fans will always question a rider when he turns in a poor performance against his parent club & if they were free agents then this wouldn't happen. Swindon were wrong with what happened with Troy but they were only following the example of what happened to them with Miedzinski. The sport is a joke when riders are owned by a person who isn't even involved with a club anymore. Edited December 13, 2014 by Crazy robin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILIPRISING Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 There should be no assets. Riders are self employed, promoters shouldn't be able to play God by refusing others permission to speak to 'their' riders. Has been said before but if somebody took the whole thing to court assets in speedway would be no more. Hear, hear to that ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 To be fair to KK he has spent more time away from Poole anyway & was always the rider left out by them so had a point to prove. I'm not trying to get in an argument but I feel that it's becoming a farce with all the loan riders & the sooner riders become free agents like in Sweden & Poland the better. Fans will always question a rider when he turns in a poor performance against his parent club & if they were free agents then this wouldn't happen. Swindon were wrong with what happened with Troy but they were only following the example of what happened to them with Miedzinski. The sport is a joke when riders are owned by a person who isn't even involved with a club anymore. That is incorrect. They are still the registered owners of that club, and just not involved in the day to day running... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 That is incorrect. They are still the registered owners of that club, and just not involved in the day to day running... Wasn't just directed at them as there have been numerous cases of riders owned by people no longer involved with a club. I might be wrong but Mark Loram springs to mind?. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Wasn't just directed at them as there have been numerous cases of riders owned by people no longer involved with a club. I might be wrong but Mark Loram springs to mind?. Agreed, you do make a valid point. It's not a perfect situation by any means.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Agreed, you do make a valid point. It's not a perfect situation by any means.. It's far from a perfect situation & being made worse by personal grudges no matter how right they might be as the sport is getting damaged. Two clubs from last season have already gone, teams that are left are struggling to get heat leaders & how long can it carry on for. I just wish i lived closer to a Premier league track as the Elite league is a joke. Let's just hope all the Poole assets that get left out get a team if they want & are true to the sport when the play offs come. Sadly I doubt it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) What goes around, comes around as far as Rick Frost is concerned!! Mutual respect between Rick and Matt (Rick and Julie welcome guests at Poole Xmas Dinner previously!!) Guaranteed quick payment. Done deal. They have conveniently forgotten how Matt Ford got his revenge against Coventry & stitched up the Panthers in the process. Like everything else in this world, for too many people money talks & principles go to the wall. Were not the Panthers making a stand against how the EL was being run or have they now conveniently forgotten that when the money was offered? If they had any principles, they would have told Fat Maude where to stick his ill gained loot! Edited December 17, 2014 by DunRobin 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 They have conveniently forgotten how Matt Ford got his revenge against Coventry & stitched up the Panthers in the process. Like everything else in this world, for to many people money talks & principles go to the wall. Were not the Panthers making a stand against how the EL was being run or have they now conveniently forgotten that when the money was offered? If they had any principles, they would have told Fat Maude where to sick his ill gained loot! You've been reading too many 'Once upon a time' stories!!! How and why would a solid, principled business man like Rick Frost ever forget something like that - assuming it ever happened as you've suggested of course?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 You've been reading too many 'Once upon a time' stories!!! How and why would a solid, principled business man like Rick Frost ever forget something like that - assuming it ever happened as you've suggested of course?! No you're right & Ford has never done anything wrong!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Nope that is why we are such a successful club and you Robins suck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Nope that is why we are such a successful club and you Robins suck Isn't it time for your bath as you must have school in the morning to make such a childish comment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Isn't it time for your bath as you must have school in the morning to make such a childish comment. No but I have to be up at 5.30am for work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Assets are vital in getting together a team of your choosing or at least the foundations. Otherwise it is a case of waiting to see what's left or when they are allowed to talk to riders. However an asset could easily walk out and demand he wants away and made available to other teams straight away. They can't do much to stop them riding elsewhere and at least will get a transfer fee or a loan fee. Wolverhampton have received more fees for Nicki Pedersen than the transfer fee they paid for him and that is useful for any club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 No but I have to be up at 5.30am for work Newspaper round before school Assets are vital in getting together a team of your choosing or at least the foundations. Otherwise it is a case of waiting to see what's left or when they are allowed to talk to riders. However an asset could easily walk out and demand he wants away and made available to other teams straight away. They can't do much to stop them riding elsewhere and at least will get a transfer fee or a loan fee. Wolverhampton have received more fees for Nicki Pedersen than the transfer fee they paid for him and that is useful for any club. Well they would if he rode in this country! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INCOGNITO Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Newspaper round before school Well they would if he rode in this country! Does help yes. Protasiewicz signed as a Poole asset and has never ridden here since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Does help yes. Protasiewicz signed as a Poole asset and has never ridden here since. A bit like Doyle! Oh hang on, no its just Swindon he hasn't ridden for!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Newspaper round before school Well they would if he rode in this country! Ho ho ho fail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Ho ho ho fail Half of your posts would suggest you're a school child at best or just a sad anorak at worst!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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