hagonshocker Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I just wonder, as discussed elsewhere on this thread, when Rossiter will be bleating on next about "the lack of British youngsters progressing within the sport". I also wonder, albeit doubt, whether the interviewer will have the gonads to chuck this scenario straight back in his grinning face? I also wonder, as mentioned, whether Mr. Batchelor will now witness and end to his 'mechanical gremlins'? Wouldn't that be so wonderfully advantageous. I also wonder how a particular Mr. Ward can be deemed to be 'the ultimate professional'? To my mind, nothing could be further from the truth. But mainly, I have to wonder how Speedway Supporters minds now work? A group of people that I have always deemed to be the fairest, honest and most sporting of fans now seem obsessed with this win at all costs mentality. These values now appear to have been sadly discarded. Just listen to yourselves (some) Swindon fans. You should be bloody ashamed. Your team has sunk to the depths of the charlatans from Dorset, and yet you seem overjoyed to have signed a rider with Ward's history; in place of a loyal young British rider who has now lost, for the time being anyway, a significant part of his employment. Alan Rossiter, by these actions, is an utter disgrace to British Speedway; particularly given his position of 'Team GB Manager'. Go and have a lie down....we have nothing to be ashamed off and no-one has a win at all costs attitude....i for one dont believe it makes us stronger just more settled and if you are content on watching sides full of guests because your so called number one cant be arsed to get his self on a plane and ride for us then bloody more fool you...voice of reason?....more like voice of naivety 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I was impressed with Krcmar in last years SWC but this year he wasn't so good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Also, Its good to get new talent and this Krcmar might be real good. I hope he is... But I was under the impression everyone in our league was on at least a 5 CMA, so how is it possible to bring in riders with a lower average than that..... Is this the way of fiddling averages????? We sure do strange things in this league........... The assessment averages were raised to try and stop these ridiculous silly low assessments. But as is typical the BSPA will do whatever is best for (Swindon/Poole) speedway. There is no way any new foreign rider should be as low as 4 assessed, and that's the same if it's Poole or Wolves. British riders have to carry there British average in Europe (I believe?) hence why they struggle to get team places in Poland/Sweden. There should never be an instance when a new foreigner arrives with a average less than 5 (preferably 6). No doubt Krcmar will be assessed similar to Milik last year. We all remember how Poole fans were saying he was a big risk yet is now a heat leader a year later! Krcmar is a similar ability so WAKE UP BSPA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 The assessment averages were raised to try and stop these ridiculous silly low assessments. But as is typical the BSPA will do whatever is best for (Swindon/Poole) speedway. There is no way any new foreign rider should be as low as 4 assessed, and that's the same if it's Poole or Wolves. British riders have to carry there British average in Europe (I believe?) hence why they struggle to get team places in Poland/Sweden. There should never be an instance when a new foreigner arrives with a average less than 5 (preferably 6). No doubt Krcmar will be assessed similar to Milik last year. We all remember how Poole fans were saying he was a big risk yet is now a heat leader a year later! Krcmar is a similar ability so WAKE UP BSPA. They still don't seem to have got to grips with how the new race format affects averages. I think the lowest last year was on about 4.9, with no other riders below 5. To be fair, though, the standard of FTR riders is higher this year, so there are a few more below 5 but none as low as 4.50. So, on paper at least, the new Czech should be the worst top 5 rider in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) They still don't seem to have got to grips with how the new race format affects averages. I think the lowest last year was on about 4.9, with no other riders below 5. To be fair, though, the standard of FTR riders is higher this year, so there are a few more below 5 but none as low as 4.50. So, on paper at least, the new Czech should be the worst top 5 rider in the league. Just because the league bosses are naïve enough, to access new foreign riders with a low average, doesn't indicate their true ability, whether it be on paper or not. ...... Allowing a club to bring in a new rider on a low average doesn't do the sport any favours at all. What it does do is: 1) Give the Club the opportunity to pull a fast one over their opponents , 2) It gives the rider the opportunity to gain experience before clearing off when we won't pay his top wage demands. (Served its purpose) 3) It takes away another chance of an home rider progressing into the to league proper. But then again..... Why should that surprise anyone......... Edited July 8, 2015 by GRW123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Robin Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 The assessment averages were raised to try and stop these ridiculous silly low assessments. But as is typical the BSPA will do whatever is best for (Swindon/Poole) speedway. There is no way any new foreign rider should be as low as 4 assessed, and that's the same if it's Poole or Wolves. British riders have to carry there British average in Europe (I believe?) hence why they struggle to get team places in Poland/Sweden. There should never be an instance when a new foreigner arrives with a average less than 5 (preferably 6). No doubt Krcmar will be assessed similar to Milik last year. We all remember how Poole fans were saying he was a big risk yet is now a heat leader a year later! Krcmar is a similar ability so WAKE UP BSPA. I think Milik came in on an assessed 4.00 average last season, I'm sure I've read somewhere that Krcmar is 4.50. No way are the two of similar ability though. Ward will be end up being in the top 3 or 4 in the averages even though I think his average will drop. I think Krcmar may end up as the lowest averaged 2nd string ( as he currently is on his assessed average, I think I'm right in saying ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 They still don't seem to have got to grips with how the new race format affects averages. I think the lowest last year was on about 4.9, with no other riders below 5. To be fair, though, the standard of FTR riders is higher this year, so there are a few more below 5 but none as low as 4.50. So, on paper at least, the new Czech should be the worst top 5 rider in the league. At least that seems clear and unbiased, seeing as it appears Swindon need him to be lower than 5! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Being dense or naive?..maybe you are guilty of a bit of both?...i dont think anyone is forcasting a higher combined points total so lets get that particular bee in your bonnet put to be first shall we? We had a 'number one' that clearly couldnt be arsed to ride for us and as much as you bang on about guest/Howarth combo doing the business relying on one every meeting is a pretty poor scenario and by signing Ward we do two things...firstly we actually have a number one available every meeting as well as a settle side and secondly we have an individual who will put extra wallets through the turnstyles because at the end of the day whether you or i like it these clubs want to make a profit if they can...fair enough....by releasing Howarth we are causing as little damage to the potential of the side as we possibly can..still hard for you to fathom or is it just your sheer hatred of anything Poole related (including Ward) that will always cloud your judgement and opinion?..at the end of the day the playoffs are great to be involved in but im just happy to hopefully touch wood watch a settled side which has a lot of promise of excitement especially with the likes of Ward and Eduard what on earth are you prattling on about? I have quite clearly stated that its a good move for Swindon and Poole for Darcy to be back riding so i have no idea what on earth you are having a go about? My point was that people are expecting Swindon to now go on a run because of the changes. I was making a point that i didnt think Swindon would get many more points if any from the Ward/ Krcmar pairing then from what they originally had. Not once have i slated Swindon, Poole or Ward on this thread. I agree the arrival of Ward might make a better team spirit and yes a settled side which no doubt will help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I think Milik came in on an assessed 4.00 average last season, I'm sure I've read somewhere that Krcmar is 4.50. No way are the two of similar ability though. Ward will be end up being in the top 3 or 4 in the averages even though I think his average will drop. I think Krcmar may end up as the lowest averaged 2nd string ( as he currently is on his assessed average, I think I'm right in saying ) And as proven Milik was wrongly assessed and plenty knew that too. Milik should have been a 5 and so should Krcmar. The ridiculous outdated method of swedish/Polish averages conversion is shown up when promising riders with a big future aren't riding in those leagues. Doesn't make their ability any less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Ward, Krcmar,Batchelor,Morris,Zengi,Wright,Rose how can anyone really dispute the side now is alot stronger.This side would of cruised to the play/offs without bother,Rossiter like he has always done has made the decision in the best interests of Swindon Speedway. The reserves are less than convincing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Just for the record so people like Hagonshocker stop getting their knickers in the twist. Darcy Ward is a great signing for Swindon Darcy Ward will put bums on seats and therefore more money into Swindon speedway. He will also cause bigger attendances when Swindon go away as well. I also have no issue with Rosco dropping Howarth he needs to do whats right for the club. All i was saying is with the number of away matches left i do not think the changes will get Swindon in the play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Robin Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 And as proven Milik was wrongly assessed and plenty knew that too. Milik should have been a 5 and so should Krcmar. The ridiculous outdated method of swedish/Polish averages conversion is shown up when promising riders with a big future aren't riding in those leagues. Doesn't make their ability any less. Milik probably was too low but Krcmar won't be matching Milik's end of first season average I'm afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Not going to retaliate as you are a Poole fan. Why does that make any difference? You're inane pounding of Gomolski is unfounded and unwarranted...no matter which thread you post it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Milik probably was too low but Krcmar won't be matching Milik's end of first season average I'm afraid. Unknown, but likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 The reserves are less than convincingWright is no mug slowly getting better has not had much track time at the Abbey and Rose will improve he showed that on better aquipment last time.Coventry's reserves might be better, but i would take Swindon's top five over the Bees top five all day long.Bit of a bold statement but i still don't think this Coventry side will win the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 When I read the PMPO's comment, I thought it was a tongue in cheek remark about Darcy's lack of professionalism. I read it as he was taking the rise out of Darcy Yet you say exactly the same thing as was intended and get loads of people agreeing with you... Strange people Probably I'm the thick one.... Sidney; I take it your holiday is not very good. You've spent more time on the forum of late than most others, when you should be having a real good time . Relax mate, turn off the Laptop / Phone, Put your sunny's on , have a glass in your hand and dream of Darcy winning you the BEL..... I'm sure the holiday will go better , that way....... THANK YOU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heathen chemistry Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) yes the massive injustice last season was milliks assessed 4 average, played a huge part in pooles team success he should of been a 6 pointer he reached the gp challenge the year before so he showed a level of quality , whoever decided the 4 point assessed must be stupid , or had a back hander Edited July 8, 2015 by heathen chemistry 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 If he was the ultimate professional he wouldn't be sitting out a. ban in the first place I was taking the piss, thought that was pretty obvious. Oh well, this forum needs a sarcasm font. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 What Rosco has done is a short term fix, but Speedway is all about short term, for many.. No Medium or Long term plan.We see that with having two brilliant assets in Doyley and Magic and not using them speedway is all about the short term one of the thing's i dislike about speedway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 We see that with having two brilliant assets in Doyley and Magic and not using them speedway is all about the short term one of the thing's i dislike about speedway. And when you do plan for the future by developing youngsters, you're not allowed to pick them as your draft riders! All about the short term, I agree with you 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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