foreverblue Posted July 7, 2015 Report Share Posted July 7, 2015 This might get them to the playoffs, but what happens when they come up against Poole? If after 7 heats it's close, I think we all know what will happen Yes we know what will happen, Darcy will try his hardest to win the title for his team, the team he is riding for not his parent team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Serious question. In the matches where Swindon have used a guest what have been the combined scores of the guest and Howarth? for example did one week Hans get 10 and Kyle 6 making 16? If so will Wards scores plus Krcmar add up to more? Ward gets 13 and Krcmar 3 would be no better. That said Swindon had to do something and bringing in a box office crowd pleaser makes sense. Will they make the play offs? Not in my opinion. Even if Krcmar gets dialled in to the Abbey he will struggle away you would feel Surely the guest scores are irrelevant, as now am is not injured there would be no facility (or for max 28 days). So the comparison is howarth and Pl 6pter vs ward and krcamer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Surely the guest scores are irrelevant, as now am is not injured there would be no facility (or for max 28 days). So the comparison is howarth and Pl 6pter vs ward and krcamer That's correct. I wonder how many of the people having a pop at Swindon know what we were up against. Edited July 8, 2015 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouch Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Surely the guest scores are irrelevant, as now am is not injured there would be no facility (or for max 28 days). So the comparison is howarth and Pl 6pter vs ward and krcamer I don't remember AM being injured when The Aces rode there the other week. I remember North as a guest riding unbeaten by an opponent in his last four races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhine Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 And all this is possible due to batchs mechanical gremlins what a stroke of luck that was 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I don't remember AM being injured when The Aces rode there the other week. I remember North as a guest riding unbeaten by an opponent in his last four races. As I said. People having a pop don't understand the situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Darcy being the ultimate professional will of course give 100% for Swindon when they face Poole. If he was the ultimate professional he wouldn't be sitting out a. ban in the first place When I read the PMPO's comment, I thought it was a tongue in cheek remark about Darcy's lack of professionalism. I read it as he was taking the rise out of Darcy Yet you say exactly the same thing as was intended and get loads of people agreeing with you... Strange people Probably I'm the thick one.... I thought Rossiter was employed by the Robins? as an employee his job is to to do the best he can for the club for me i would of done exactly the same. Sidney; I take it your holiday is not very good. You've spent more time on the forum of late than most others, when you should be having a real good time . Relax mate, turn off the Laptop / Phone, Put your sunny's on , have a glass in your hand and dream of Darcy winning you the BEL..... I'm sure the holiday will go better , that way....... Edited July 8, 2015 by GRW123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 So the England team manager has dropped an English rider for foriegn riders in the English Elite league, that sums him up. Rosco should resign as the manager of the national team now as he clearly has no respect for an English riders career. I don't get all the criticism towards Rosco, he is Swindon TM and it is his job to field the strongest team for his employers and the fans and if he can also increase the attendances at Swindon then he has done his job. Without a strong English Elite League you don't have a national team so IMO those having a go at Rosco at out of order. Yes we know what will happen, Darcy will try his hardest to win the title for his team, the team he is riding for not his parent team. Agreed FB. Ward will give his all for Swindon or any other team he may have ended up at - he is that sort of rider/person. The only issue I can see is if he has some genuine lack of form coming back from his time away from the sport or maybe bike problems, the usual suspects will be on here spouting cheat!!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 When I read the PMPO's comment, I thought it was a tongue in cheek remark about Darcy's lack of professionalism. I read it as he was taking the rise out of Darcy Yet you say exactly the same thing as was intended and get loads of people agreeing with you... Strange people Probably I'm the thick one.... Sidney; I take it your holiday is not very good. You've spent more time on the forum of late than most others, when you should be having a real good time . Relax mate, turn off the Laptop / Phone, Put your sunny's on , have a glass in your hand and dream of Darcy winning you the BEL..... I'm sure the holiday will go better , that way....... In the sun a pint on the side,catching up watching me Polish/swedish racing this is the life sod crappy England the country has gone to the dogs.Ward coming with the exciting Czech should turn our fortunes around i now have some hope in us getting points away from home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 bit rich coming from a Poole fan! You dumped up and coming brit Howarth for Mickey Dyer!!! How is his career going now?? Selective memory Dyer has retired from speedway i believe and Howarth wasnt riding well at the time but Howarth understood then and understands now. Dont have a problem with it myself, it just had to be done for the good of the team. The only alternative was to replace Miedzinski with a lesser rider and keep Howarth. Darcy will make Swindon more profitable by increasing attendance and will be almost unbeatable at the Abbey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Voice Of Reason Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I just wonder, as discussed elsewhere on this thread, when Rossiter will be bleating on next about "the lack of British youngsters progressing within the sport". I also wonder, albeit doubt, whether the interviewer will have the gonads to chuck this scenario straight back in his grinning face? I also wonder, as mentioned, whether Mr. Batchelor will now witness and end to his 'mechanical gremlins'? Wouldn't that be so wonderfully advantageous. I also wonder how a particular Mr. Ward can be deemed to be 'the ultimate professional'? To my mind, nothing could be further from the truth. But mainly, I have to wonder how Speedway Supporters minds now work? A group of people that I have always deemed to be the fairest, honest and most sporting of fans now seem obsessed with this win at all costs mentality. These values now appear to have been sadly discarded. Just listen to yourselves (some) Swindon fans. You should be bloody ashamed. Your team has sunk to the depths of the charlatans from Dorset, and yet you seem overjoyed to have signed a rider with Ward's history; in place of a loyal young British rider who has now lost, for the time being anyway, a significant part of his employment. Alan Rossiter, by these actions, is an utter disgrace to British Speedway; particularly given his position of 'Team GB Manager'. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I just wonder, as discussed elsewhere on this thread, when Rossiter will be bleating on next about "the lack of British youngsters progressing within the sport". I also wonder, albeit doubt, whether the interviewer will have the gonads to chuck this scenario straight back in his grinning face? I also wonder, as mentioned, whether Mr. Batchelor will now witness and end to his 'mechanical gremlins'? Wouldn't that be so wonderfully advantageous. I also wonder how a particular Mr. Ward can be deemed to be 'the ultimate professional'? To my mind, nothing could be further from the truth. But mainly, I have to wonder how Speedway Supporters minds now work? A group of people that I have always deemed to be the fairest, honest and most sporting of fans now seem obsessed with this win at all costs mentality. These values now appear to have been sadly discarded. Just listen to yourselves (some) Swindon fans. You should be bloody ashamed. Your team has sunk to the depths of the charlatans from Dorset, and yet you seem overjoyed to have signed a rider with Ward's history; in place of a loyal young British rider who has now lost, for the time being anyway, a significant part of his employment. Alan Rossiter, by these actions, is an utter disgrace to British Speedway; particularly given his position of 'Team GB Manager'. Spot on 👍🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truro Robin Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Personally, I think both Ward and Krcmar will fail to maintain their averages. Krcmar is definitely one for the future, but based upon his scores for Gdansk this season, I think he'll struggle to make the same impact that Milik had for Poole last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhine Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) I really do see why rossiter made the change but can't really see how he can complain if or when he moans about British team not being up to it you can't have your cake and eat it and I think quite soon his position as British boss may become untenable Edited July 8, 2015 by muffinman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I just wonder, as discussed elsewhere on this thread, when Rossiter will be bleating on next about "the lack of British youngsters progressing within the sport". I also wonder, albeit doubt, whether the interviewer will have the gonads to chuck this scenario straight back in his grinning face? I also wonder, as mentioned, whether Mr. Batchelor will now witness and end to his 'mechanical gremlins'? Wouldn't that be so wonderfully advantageous. I also wonder how a particular Mr. Ward can be deemed to be 'the ultimate professional'? To my mind, nothing could be further from the truth. But mainly, I have to wonder how Speedway Supporters minds now work? A group of people that I have always deemed to be the fairest, honest and most sporting of fans now seem obsessed with this win at all costs mentality. These values now appear to have been sadly discarded. Just listen to yourselves (some) Swindon fans. You should be bloody ashamed. Your team has sunk to the depths of the charlatans from Dorset, and yet you seem overjoyed to have signed a rider with Ward's history; in place of a loyal young British rider who has now lost, for the time being anyway, a significant part of his employment. Alan Rossiter, by these actions, is an utter disgrace to British Speedway; particularly given his position of 'Team GB Manager'. Rosco is not a disgrace he is doing whats best for his hometown club who pay his wages. His part time position of GB manager does not mean he should have to make his club suffer. The lack of British talent is not Rosco's fault and Howarth will get another EL ride soon i am sure.In any sport it is about winning not just taking part, ask a Bournemouth fan how they feel about being in the Premier League, would they say they would rather they were still in league 1 because it had more integrity. Good luck to Troy, i am sure his bike gremlins are a thing of the past now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Me too. Zengi is an in form rider though. However Howarth is British. Whatever way Swindon went it would of weakened the team. Hopefully if we can fit Howarth in we will pick him up and drop Gomolski. That is all Edited July 8, 2015 by chris4gillian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhine Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Rosco is not a disgrace he is doing whats best for his hometown club who pay his wages. His part time position of GB manager does not mean he should have to make his club suffer. The lack of British talent is not Rosco's fault and Howarth will get another EL ride soon i am sure. In any sport it is about winning not just taking part, ask a Bournemouth fan how they feel about being in the Premier League, would they say they would rather they were still in league 1 because it had more integrity. Good luck to Troy, i am sure his bike gremlins are a thing of the past now. The last part of that post is spot on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Personally, I think both Ward and Krcmar will fail to maintain their averages. Krcmar is definitely one for the future, but based upon his scores for Gdansk this season, I think he'll struggle to make the same impact that Milik had for Poole last season.Would expect krcmar to ride to his average, though agree he won't make the same impact milik did.If I was a Swindon fan I'd be happy with the changes, not sure there were any better alternatives. People saying batch should have gone instead of howarth but batch plus krcmar surely stronger than howarth plus sub 6 pointer. And ward/krcmar likely stronger than howarth plus any of the alternative replacement s for AM 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Appreciating, Ward is Box-Office, and also very talented, but whether he is right for Swindon only time will tell. Obviously his loyalty is to Poole and that's a big worry. I can't help in thinking this process is for their benefit only. Sure he will pull in the crowds, but I wouldn't bet there's an arrangement with Poole, in place to safeguard their position. Lets imagine a Poole and Swindon Final, and it comes down to Ward against Holder. Do you honestly think Ward would bite off the hand that feeds him......... Do you think Poole would allow that...... Darcy is known to be selfish, but he's not stupid..... I would like to see Darcy sever all ties with POOLE and sign for someone else. and to give his all , all the time , If that club was to be Swindon then all well and good. But this way ,, No ,, like I said the only benefactors are Poole......... Also, Its good to get new talent and this Krcmar might be real good. I hope he is... But I was under the impression everyone in our league was on at least a 5 CMA, so how is it possible to bring in riders with a lower average than that..... Is this the way of fiddling averages????? We sure do strange things in this league........... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 People saying Kyle shouldn't of been sacked because of him being British are ridiculous. Rosco has done the right thing for his Swindon team, he had to make the changes and will strengthen the team no end, for example this past sky meeting, miedzinski and howarth scored 3 points, will darcy and krcmar? Without doubt! Zengi was always the man to keep, as is a 6.50 to 7.00 elite league rider on his day, is Kyle, no, not yet anyway. It's unfortunate that a young Brit has lost his team place but it's a result league not a pitty league, Kyle will get a team place somewhere else, he's good enough just needs a break and getting rid of the shocker of a meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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