semion Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 What has Ward's signing done to the share price of Arkells ? Might be worth getting on board quick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Best thing speedway can do is distance itself from the arms race riders are dragged into. Too many NL and PL standard riders see what the GP riders have, with their 'teams' of mechanics and stable of bikes and think they need the same. They spend far too much money tuning bikes to get that last drop of energy out and as a result costs are rocketing. I have to admit I have little or no mechanical knowledge, but there has to be some mileage in looking at engine limiters or the like. If GP riders want to spend a fortune on their bikes for the GPs then let them. But it's up to them to cover their own costs. Hopefully this would go a long way to reducing costs. Ward, Krcmar,Batchelor,Morris,Zengi,Wright,Rose how can anyone really dispute the side now is alot stronger.This side would of cruised to the play/offs without bother,Rossiter like he has always done has made the decision in the best interests of Swindon Speedway. Edited July 8, 2015 by sidney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Appreciating, Ward is Box-Office, and also very talented, but whether he is right for Swindon only time will tell. Obviously his loyalty is to Poole and that's a big worry. I can't help in thinking this process is for their benefit only. Sure he will pull in the crowds, but I wouldn't bet there's an arrangement with Poole, in place to safeguard their position. Lets imagine a Poole and Swindon Final, and it comes down to Ward against Holder. Do you honestly think Ward would bite off the hand that feeds him......... Do you think Poole would allow that...... Darcy is known to be selfish, but he's not stupid..... I would like to see Darcy sever all ties with POOLE and sign for someone else. and to give his all , all the time , If that club was to be Swindon then all well and good. But this way ,, No ,, like I said the only benefactors are Poole......... Also, Its good to get new talent and this Krcmar might be real good. I hope he is... But I was under the impression everyone in our league was on at least a 5 CMA, so how is it possible to bring in riders with a lower average than that..... Is this the way of fiddling averages????? We sure do strange things in this league........... I wouldn't like Ward to sever all ties to Poole thanks. Ward won't ride slower against his parent club thats just a Poole conspiracy theory once again although don't expect too much on monday as its his first meeting. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stratton Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I wouldn't like Ward to sever all ties to Poole thanks. Ward won't ride slower against his parent club thats just a Poole conspiracy theory once again although don't expect too much on monday as its his first meeting.If you were a betting man how many do you think Darcy will score? under 10? i think he will score nine or 10 from five his natural ability will carry him through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I guess the banter given about Rosco sacking Howarth a british rider is not really about him not doing the right thing by his club but actually that he has repeatedly made comments about others not looking to develop british talent and also made some comments when Poole axed Howarth. Now he has done the same thing surely it can't be a surprise that people are now going to say the same about him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Where I find Rosco hypocritical and at odds with his statements and position as Team GB manager is to replace Howarth with a foreigner when there are Brits who could have gained from the opportunity to d/u. Instead we are going to give that opportunity to a Czech. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Which Brits do you have in mind that would fit on average, not miss meetings due to fixture clashes and be capable of the 4-5 pts you'd expect krcmar to average? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 I just wonder, as discussed elsewhere on this thread, when Rossiter will be bleating on next about "the lack of British youngsters progressing within the sport". I also wonder, albeit doubt, whether the interviewer will have the gonads to chuck this scenario straight back in his grinning face? I also wonder, as mentioned, whether Mr. Batchelor will now witness and end to his 'mechanical gremlins'? Wouldn't that be so wonderfully advantageous. I also wonder how a particular Mr. Ward can be deemed to be 'the ultimate professional'? To my mind, nothing could be further from the truth. But mainly, I have to wonder how Speedway Supporters minds now work? A group of people that I have always deemed to be the fairest, honest and most sporting of fans now seem obsessed with this win at all costs mentality. These values now appear to have been sadly discarded. Just listen to yourselves (some) Swindon fans. You should be bloody ashamed. Your team has sunk to the depths of the charlatans from Dorset, and yet you seem overjoyed to have signed a rider with Ward's history; in place of a loyal young British rider who has now lost, for the time being anyway, a significant part of his employment. Alan Rossiter, by these actions, is an utter disgrace to British Speedway; particularly given his position of 'Team GB Manager'. So what would you have done if you were a manager in the same situation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhine Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 So what would you have done if you were a manager in the same situation? Done the same but never moan about the lack of British talent or slagging off other clubs for ditching young Brits for foreigners again basically him saying nothing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Spot on Quite ironic, isn't it, thaat a select group of coventry fans are outraged at Swindon having to release a British rider, but seem more than happy to release on of their own to strengthen the Bees. Or are you all hoping to bring Kyle Howarth in for Kylmakorpi? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shinyhine Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Quite ironic, isn't it, thaat a select group of coventry fans are outraged at Swindon having to release a British rider, but seem more than happy to release on of their own to strengthen the Bees. Or are you all hoping to bring Kyle Howarth in for Kylmakorpi? Erm how many Brits do you you have in your team? Is it more than us or none at all apart from reserves ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 So what would you have done if you were a manager in the same situation? well be honest for a start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nellie Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 slight difference though Swindon are dropping 2 riders to fit in 2 better riders. Poole chopped out Howarth for Mickey Dyer a scandalous decision. No i dont agree with a young brit being dropped but then its to make the team stronger which is what you are supposed to do to be successful. Howarth for Dyer was at best like for like for no reason You dumped up and coming brit Howarth for Mickey Dyer!!! How is his career going now?? Selective memory I'm going to have to call bullrubbish here. Howarth and Ward were replaced when Ward got injured in May, and Jonasson and Pawlicki (statistically 'two better riders') were brought in. Micky Dyer came in to replace Dawid Stachrya a month later. Please stop making things up to use as a stick with which to beat Poole. Apologies for putting this on the Swindon thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) Erm how many Brits do you you have in your team? Is it more than us or none at all apart from reserves ? Ah, so you're another Coventry fan then. Lots of you on here I see. It's really not relevant. Besides, you, yourself, just admitted that in Rosco's position you would have done the same thing. As I've said before, it's fine for Coventry fans to be wetting themselves about this, as they are in a good position. It would have been suicide for Swindon to ride out the year with a 4 man team and a 6 point PL guest. Any team or fan who would have wanted the same would be foolish. Oh yeah, and I notice recently that quite a few Coventry fans were hoping Swindon would release Zengota so they could bring him in for Robson. It's ridiculous all this. Edited July 8, 2015 by grachan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Which Brits do you have in mind that would fit on average, not miss meetings due to fixture clashes and be capable of the 4-5 pts you'd expect krcmar to average? If I recall correctly, no second string averaged less than 5 last year under the new format, so not difficult to achieve. Palm-Toft, who had a PL average of less than 5 in 2013 achieved 5.2 for Belle Vue last year. If the conversion rate is still 60% how about Richie Worrall. I haven't looked at the fixtures but wouldn't Swindon get priority as he is an asset of an EL club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 What Rosco has done is a short term fix, but Speedway is all about short term, for many.. No Medium or Long term plan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game On Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 Yes we know what will happen, Darcy will try his hardest to win the title for his team, the team he is riding for not his parent team. yea right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 That's correct. I wonder how many of the people having a pop at Swindon know what we were up against. im not in any way having a pop at swindon. when AM was out Swindon had a guest facility. All im asking is how did guest and Howarth score combined? Surely the guest scores are irrelevant, as now am is not injured there would be no facility (or for max 28 days). So the comparison is howarth and Pl 6pter vs ward and krcamer your missing the point. when AM wasnt riding how did the scores of the rider who replaced him plus Howarth add up? All im saying is if the combined total of the 2 riders is only the same as what Ward and Krcmar score then surely Swindon arent much better off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 (edited) im not in any way having a pop at swindon. when AM was out Swindon had a guest facility. All im asking is how did guest and Howarth score combined? your missing the point. when AM wasnt riding how did the scores of the rider who replaced him plus Howarth add up? All im saying is if the combined total of the 2 riders is only the same as what Ward and Krcmar score then surely Swindon arent much better off? Guest and Howarth did okl, but we were going to lose the guest facility. Miedzinski made a token appearance for one meeting (to allow the side to be redeclared) then withdrew his services, giving a 28 day facility. After that, Swindon were on 6 point PL guests at number one. So the correct comparison is Ward/Krcmar or Howarth/6 point PL rider. Edited July 8, 2015 by grachan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruckerroo Posted July 8, 2015 Report Share Posted July 8, 2015 the problem stems from hiring a rider to do half a season really, kildemand didnt want to commit, miedzinski said he would commit to half a season,problem starts there. say what you like about rosco but hes done what he thinks can get his team in the play offs, feel sorry for howarth obviously but you dont get many leigh adams, jan andersson type riders nowadays who stay at clubs for donkeys years. its a short term mind set from management , riders and indeed supporters alike sadly. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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