Pirates Of Poole Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jack Holder won't be the final rider 100% if Chris and Darcy return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jack Holder won't be the final rider 100% if Chris and Darcy return. Can't see that happening,he wouldn't come in on a 3 point average would he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Can't see that happening,he wouldn't come in on a 3 point average would he. Since this new race format, every rider has attains at least a 5. So bearing that in mind, I can't see how anybody can be assessed on a 3, regardless of how bad they are. Considering some of their rides are against FTR , they cant help but score decent points....... The BSPA surely can't allow the old system to continue and needs to address the rule now...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jack Holder would get exactly the same starting average as Robert Lambert did at the beginning of last season which I think was 3. He would be the weakest top 5 rider in the teams so am not sure why anyone would worry. Its a risk to say the least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waiheke1 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jack Holder would get exactly the same starting average as Robert Lambert did at the beginning of last season which I think was 3. He would be the weakest top 5 rider in the teams so am not sure why anyone would worry. Its a risk to say the leastwhat is your basis for stating holder would come in on a 3? if milik was joining the league this year I doubt he would still come in on a four. As others have pointed out, other than an nl rider it would be nonsense for any rider yo be assessed under 5.holder wouldnt fulfil visa requirements as I understand them coming in on less than 4? And how would holder be a risk on a three? He would clearly improve on that average And how would holder be a risk on a three? He would clearly improve on that average Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Jack Holder would get exactly the same starting average as Robert Lambert did at the beginning of last season which I think was 3. He would be the weakest top 5 rider in the teams so am not sure why anyone would worry. Its a risk to say the least No he wouldn't as Holder is a non-EU national! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Can't see that happening,he wouldn't come in on a 3 point average would he. See what happening? I said it WONT be Jack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 See what happening? I said it WONT be Jack. Misread it obviously,don't see the point of mentioning him then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 If Poole do go with a rider on an average around three points a meeting you can be assured Nico Covatti will be a target going on his current 4.27 PL average. Have to agree with some of the posts that Magic Janowski should have been the first name on the team if he wanted to return and if he does want to ride in Britain he must be pretty cheesed off he is only being considered if they can't secure Holder and Ward. Holder and Ward may be the better riders but with all the problems getting them signed up, you would have thought they would by now be looking at Janowski, Pawlicki, Watt, North and either Milik or Gracjzoneck which is quite a powerful line up and certainly one of the strongest looking teams that can retain the title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloves Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Rumour doing the rounds late last night was that whilst ward wouldn't get a 2 year ban he is likely to be banned for the 2015 season (so about 14 months total). Certainly would send a message and a fairly pragmatic ban. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Rumour doing the rounds late last night was that whilst ward wouldn't get a 2 year ban he is likely to be banned for the 2015 season (so about 14 months total). Certainly would send a message and a fairly pragmatic ban. Is that doing the rounds in your head? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Jack Holder would get exactly the same starting average as Robert Lambert did at the beginning of last season which I think was 3. He would be the weakest top 5 rider in the teams so am not sure why anyone would worry. Its a risk to say the least Understand your reasoning. But last year Lambert struggled with his gating and finished last in more races than any other position. next was 3rd followed by 2nds . He did win a few races but still managed to average 5.5. Last year the format used, was new and no-body was aware of the implications. We now know that heatleaders find it hard to score good points and the 2nd strings find it far easier than before. so the assessed score should reflect those points....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Understand your reasoning. But last year Lambert struggled with his gating and finished last in more races than any other position. next was 3rd followed by 2nds . He did win a few races but still managed to average 5.5. Last year the format used, was new and no-body was aware of the implications. We now know that heatleaders find it hard to score good points and the 2nd strings find it far easier than before. so the assessed score should reflect those points....... If Jack Holder gets his visa sorted, (and just to repeat - its not about the riders its about their clubs having their Certificate of Sponsorship licence reinstated) then he will sign for Plymouth on a 7 point average and will not be allowed to double-up anywhere else, no matter what his converted/assessed average might be! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 If Jack Holder gets his visa sorted, (and just to repeat - its not about the riders its about their clubs having their Certificate of Sponsorship licence reinstated) then he will sign for Plymouth on a 7 point average and will not be allowed to double-up anywhere else, no matter what his converted/assessed average might be!100% correct! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 100% correct! Just out of interest, does Jack Holder meet the criteria for obtaining a visa Lewy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Depends on what the current criteria is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Just out of interest, does Jack Holder meet the criteria for obtaining a visa Lewy?I dont know somerset thought so if he does he will be at plymouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Najjer Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) I dont know somerset thought so if he does he will be at plymouthDid they? He got dropped... Makes you wonder doesn't it. Did he finish in the top 4 in his State championship, or meet the requirement in the National title? I suppose now Plymouth have applied for a license to sign work permit riders they believe he does meet the requirements - but obviously no one will be allowed to wriggle through the system anymore. Edited January 31, 2015 by Najjer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Did they? He got dropped... Makes you wonder doesn't it. Did he finish in the top 4 in his State championship, or meet the requirement in the National title? I suppose now Plymouth have applied for a license to sign work permit riders they believe he does meet the requirements - but obviously no one will be allowed to wriggle through the system anymore. Yes he won his state under 21 title................... RP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewy Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Did they? He got dropped... Makes you wonder doesn't it. Did he finish in the top 4 in his State championship, or meet the requirement in the National title? I suppose now Plymouth have applied for a license to sign work permit riders they believe he does meet the requirements - but obviously no one will be allowed to wriggle through the system anymore. Somerset axed him because once they realized they couldnt flout the rules again and he wouldn't fit on his correct average they got away with brady last season which we all know they shouldnt have.apologies to poole fans for using your thread yo post this on i,m done now:-SS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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