SCB Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 (edited) Reports coming out of Poland this morning suggests Darcy will face NO further punishment. Teh article on sportowefakty is filled with inaccuracies though. It suggest he'll get of as there was no blood test but the rules state, "P1. ALCOHOL Alcohol (ethanol) is prohibited In-Competition only, in the Help Us sports. Detection will be and conducted by analysis of breath and / or blood. The doping violation threshold is equivalent to a blood alcohol concentration of 0.10 g / L.". Nothing say a blood test must be taken, it's breathe and blood or breathe or blood. Theres no need to have both, sop it cant be thrown out for that technicality! It seems to be an article full of bluff and bluster and reasons why Darcy may get off but anyone with half a brain can see than most of the reason are crap. We have the lack of blood and the petition for a start, both irrelevant. Then theres the fact is it "not know" if the person carry out the test had the right permissions to, no certainty there - basically it's an angle they'll try and use but no more than that. Edited January 21, 2015 by SCB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Google translate version of the article on the 'Darcy Ward' thread. (Presumably Darcy's lawyers are from Torun?!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 As far as I am aware they are from Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Teh article on sportowefakty is filled with inaccuracies though. It suggest he'll get of as there was no blood test but the rules state, "P1. ALCOHOL Alcohol (ethanol) is prohibited In-Competition only, in the Help Us sports. Detection will be and conducted by analysis of breath and / or blood. The doping violation threshold is equivalent to a blood alcohol concentration of 0.10 g / L.". Nothing say a blood test must be taken, it's breathe and blood or breathe or blood. Theres no need to have both, sop it cant be thrown out for that technicality! It seems to be an article full of bluff and bluster and reasons why Darcy may get off but anyone with half a brain can see than most of the reason are crap. We have the lack of blood and the petition for a start, both irrelevant. Then theres the fact is it "not know" if the person carry out the test had the right permissions to, no certainty there - basically it's an angle they'll try and use but no more than that. I agree plus the article on the other thread talks about a compensation cliam by Darcy, which at best would be very tenuous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.N.T. Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Google translate version of the article on the 'Darcy Ward' thread. (Presumably Darcy's lawyers are from Torun?!) The lawyers are from Torun which is where MONSTER Joe is based after moving there a few years ago and obviously backs Darcy and Chris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 The lawyers are from Torun which is where MONSTER Joe is based after moving there a few years ago and obviously backs Darcy and Chris Shame he didn't have a couple of pints of that - would have saved a lot of trouble and cost!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simon.c Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Teh article on sportowefakty is filled with inaccuracies though. It suggest he'll get of as there was no blood test but the rules state, "P1. ALCOHOL Alcohol (ethanol) is prohibited In-Competition only, in the Help Us sports. Detection will be and conducted by analysis of breath and / or blood. The doping violation threshold is equivalent to a blood alcohol concentration of 0.10 g / L.". Nothing say a blood test must be taken, it's breathe and blood or breathe or blood. Theres no need to have both, sop it cant be thrown out for that technicality! It seems to be an article full of bluff and bluster and reasons why Darcy may get off but anyone with half a brain can see than most of the reason are crap. We have the lack of blood and the petition for a start, both irrelevant. Then theres the fact is it "not know" if the person carry out the test had the right permissions to, no certainty there - basically it's an angle they'll try and use but no more than that. I suppose it comes down to interpretation. I read that statement to say that the testing must be either Breath AND Blood or just blood alone. If they did not do a blood test then I think they would be in breach of their regulation. I would guess that this is the basis of ward's defence Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 I read that statement to say that the testing must be either Breath AND Blood or just blood alone. You need to read again then. It says "Breath and/or blood". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Rejig?...why?....dump Janowski out on his arse?...isnt it dangerous to think that way unless of course your side is struggling...start the season with a good solid side with Magik in the side and intend to stick with it It isn't a good solid side with Dakota North in it on a average that he has no chance of bettering. He is only in the team because of our new sponsor. Davey watt is on the way down and his average isn't false either, we could have had milik back who has alot more improvement in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 It isn't a good solid side with Dakota North in it on a average that he has no chance of bettering. Give him a chance and the benifit of the doubt Eh... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Give him a chance and the benifit of the doubt Eh... And if its turns out he is some Aussie rubbish bag you can just recycle all the quotes and statements used for Darcy the last 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 Give him a chance and the benifit of the doubt Eh... correct you should give people a chance but the consensus on here amongst Poole fans is that North is a poor signing. why just for once can you not have an opinion where you dont defend the riders or management then you wouldnt get labelled with the blue tint badge. true fans like foreverblue, chrisgillian and pirate oliver always see both sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 21, 2015 Report Share Posted January 21, 2015 correct you should give people a chance but the consensus on here amongst Poole fans is that North is a poor signing. why just for once can you not have an opinion where you dont defend the riders or management then you wouldnt get labelled with the blue tint badge. true fans like foreverblue, chrisgillian and pirate oliver always see both sides I have an opinion, give him a chance.. And if its turns out he is some Aussie rubbish bag you can just recycle all the quotes and statements used for Darcy the last 5 years Whats Darcy got to do with North ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orderly Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) You need to read again then. It says "Breath and/or blood". I believe that the breath test should be confirmed with a reading from an evidential machine and/or a blood test. I do not condone Darcy's actions, but the FIM are just as bad by continuing to alter the date of his hearing, I get the feeling that the FIM are stalling for time for some reason. in my opinion any allegations should be dealt with within 30 days of the alleged offence being committed or the charges dropped Edited January 22, 2015 by starshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The visa issue may now put Darcy out now along with Chris! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 The visa issue may now put Darcy out now along with Chris! Won't it help that holder has a british son? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I don't think it does sadly but I may be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 Won't it help that holder has a british son? No. Only if he is married to the child's mother and she earns more than 18,600 per year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm sure Holder will meet the criteria as an ex world champion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted January 22, 2015 Report Share Posted January 22, 2015 No. Only if he is married to the child's mother and she earns more than 18,600 per year. Chris will have to pay her as a secretary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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