arnieg Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 You obviously missed the rest of the thread as well. If you had taken the time to actually read who and what I was replying to, rather than just spouting nonsense, you will have seen I was replying to the poster who said Switzerland was in the EU. I've gone back and reread your post and I think you owe me an apology. Firstly my post is factually accurate and secondly your reply is clearly aimed at me given that you quote my post and in his post (also quoted) SCB acknowledges that Switzerland is not in the EU so you can't be responding to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) You would hope no matter who it is the FIM should take each case of this nature as serious as the next, as has just been posted the FIM have made a right pigs ear of this. Ward should've known his fate ages ago. Given that Middlo was quoted in the Speedway Star saying "If Darcy is banned, he has a very good case to appeal it" and "the number of appeals Darcy could make is huge", you can hardly blame the FIM for ensuring that they are well prepared in advance of the hearing.That only shows that Muddlo is losing his marbles. At one stage in the SS interview he says " I don't know the readings on the machine and I don't know the severity of what he did". A bit later he says " He just made a stupid mistake. He deserves to be punished" . Then at the end he says "If he is banned he has a very good case to appeal it." So that's Muddlo for you. Admits he doesn't know the readings, and doesn't know the severity of the offence. Admits his boy did wrong and deserves to be punished, yet despite not knowing any of the essential details tries to tell us that he has a good cases to appeal any ban. What an idiot. Edited January 2, 2015 by E I Addio 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 So that's Muddlo for you. Admits he doesn't know the readings, and doesn't know the severity of the offence. Admits his boy did wrong and deserves to be punished, yet despite not knowing any of the essential details tries to tell us that he has a good cases to appeal any ban. What an idiot. Yes he should be punished, and i think he's serving that now, and i believe he's learn't his lesson this time. But, he also has the right of appeal and if there is an inkling that the procedure was not followed or done professionally or correctly for the want of better words, then yes so Darcy should appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Switzerland is not in the EU. You don't need to be in the EU to take a case to the ECHR. You need to be in the Council of Europe, which Swittzerland is. However the FIM are not in the Council of Europe so any suggestion .that that Darcy could appeal to the ECHR is a non- starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 As Coventry fans can easily relate to wrt 2010! And Kings Lynn fans! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Yes he should be punished, and i think he's serving that now, and i believe he's learn't his lesson this time. But, he also has the right of appeal and if there is an inkling that the procedure was not followed or done professionally or correctly for the want of better words, then yes so Darcy should appeal. Muddlo didn't say he had the right of appeal, he said he has "a very good case to appeal it" . Even you must be able to see that there is a huge difference between having the right of appeal and having a very good case to appeal, and even you must be able to see the contradiction in saying in one breath that you don't know the readings or severity of the case and in the next breath saying someone has a very good case to appeal . I have no axe to grind and no particular views on whatever sentence Darcy should serve, but to anyone with even the most basic grasp if the English language it's clear that Muddlo was talking nonsense. How can anyone say Ward had good grounds for appeal without knowing the facts? I acknowledge the truth of the old saying that justice delayed is justice denied and agree Ward should know his punishment by now but that is a long way from saying he has a good case to appeal any ban. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Muddlo didn't say he had the right of appeal, he said he has "a very good case to appeal it" . Even you must be able to see that there is a huge difference between having the right of appeal and having a very good case to appeal, and even you must be able to see the contradiction in saying in one breath that you don't know the readings or severity of the case and in the next breath saying someone has a very good case to appeal . I have no axe to grind and no particular views on whatever sentence Darcy should serve, but to anyone with even the most basic grasp if the English language it's clear that Muddlo was talking nonsense. How can anyone say Ward had good grounds for appeal without knowing the facts? I acknowledge the truth of the old saying that justice delayed is justice denied and agree Ward should know his punishment by now but that is a long way from saying he has a good case to appeal any ban. spot on. but some on here will not have anything said against Muddlo yet time and again he opens his mouth without thinking. I agree the ban should have been announced by now but at the end of the day the only reason it hasnt is because of the actions of Darcy Ward last August. Dont go drinking and he wouldnrt be in this situation where people feel a need to defend him. I do like the attitude of most Poole fans who really are not that worried wether Ward rides for them or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Muddlo didn't say he had the right of appeal, he said he has "a very good case to appeal it" . Even you must be able to see that there is a huge difference between having the right of appeal and having a very good case to appeal, He still has the right of appeal, whichever way you look at it.. spot on. but some on here will not have anything said against Muddlo yet time and again he opens his mouth without thinking. I agree the ban should have been announced by now but at the end of the day the only reason it hasnt is because of the actions of Darcy Ward last August. Have you been on the pineapple juice again... The FIM have more things to look at than just Darcys case.. But again your poole bias raises its ugly head. And im not the only person on here who's told you that.. Edited January 2, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 He still has the right of appeal, whichever way you look at it.. . Perhaps he has but that's not what Muddlo was saying . Can you not grasp that? Incidently , since you have now moved the discussion on to the right of appeal , which you say he has, can you quote for us the FIM rule that gives him the right of appeal? Since them FIM are the highest governing body in the sport , who would he appeal the FIM's decisions to ?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Perhaps he has but that's not what Muddlo was saying . Can you not grasp that? Incidently , since you have now moved the discussion on to the right of appeal , which you say he has, can you quote for us the FIM rule that gives him the right of appeal? Since them FIM are the highest governing body in the sport , who would he appeal the FIM's decisions to ?. Darcy Ward has the right to Appeal his ban should he get one whichever way you look at it. So stop trying to be a smart arse.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve0 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 You're wasting your time EIA - he's like a Duracell bunny! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Leslie Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 You're wasting your time EIA - he's like a Duracell bunny! I always think of this one rather than the bunny http://blogbattery.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Monkey-Cymbals.jpg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 Darcy Ward has the right to Appeal his ban should he get one whichever way you look at it. So stop trying to be a smart arse.. You need to have a little read up on rules and regulations before you start having a pop at others. The FIM is the highest governing body so who could he appeal the decision to? If he appeals to the FIM will they look again and go ' no actually we were wrong' God your posts are more laughable everytime i come on here 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) You need to have a little read up on rules and regulations before you start having a pop at others. The FIM is the highest governing body so who could he appeal the decision to? If he appeals to the FIM will they look again and go ' no actually we were wrong' God your posts are more laughable everytime i come on here There you go, proves you have a very unheathy obsession. Your back on here and straight on to the poole thread. Clearly you are not a fan just purely a Troll. Im not going to argue with someone who clearly has a problem with poole speedway and anything poole related.. Darcy has the right of appeal to his ban, should he get one. End of. Edited January 2, 2015 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 He still has the right of appeal, whichever way you look at it.. Have you been on the pineapple juice again... The FIM have more things to look at than just Darcys case.. But again your poole bias raises its ugly head. And im not the only person on here who's told you that.. what the heck are you on about? I know the FIM have more things to look at you tool! I said the outcome should have been heard by now so im actually saying its wrong to go on this long! How the f..k is that anti poole!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you want to say im anti poole then do so but quote a post that shows it rather than one that is the complete opposite you twit There you go, proves you have a very unheathy obsession. Your back on here and straight on to the poole thread. Clearly you are not a fan just purely a Troll. i give up on you you are just a complete idiot you have been mocked by so many now you just make yourself look a prat everytime you post Can anybody help me here and explain to starman that i was agreeing with poole fans that the outcome should have been heard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E I Addio Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 (edited) Darcy Ward has the right to Appeal his ban should he get one whichever way you look at it. So stop trying to be a smart arse..Well if you say he has the automatic right of appeal tell us which part of the disciplinary code of the FIM gives him the automatic right of appeal? If I am reading section 4 of the Discipliary code for F.I.M Europe correctly he has no automatic right of appeal unless there is new evidence but there seem to be different disciplinary panels. All I ask is can you tell us which part of the disciplinary code confers an utomatic right of appeal? Clearly you don't know. No need to be rude about it, you just have to say you don't know. Edited January 2, 2015 by E I Addio 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 None of you like anything poole do you.. Well, we'l give you all something else to moan about come next October.. Which will start a thread untill the following season.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingbee Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 There you go, proves you have a very unheathy obsession. Your back on here and straight on to the poole thread. Clearly you are not a fan just purely a Troll. Im not going to argue with someone who clearly has a problem with poole speedway and anything poole related.. Darcy has the right of appeal to his ban, should he get one. End of. you do a lot of trolling your self 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 you do a lot of trolling your self Do i ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted January 2, 2015 Report Share Posted January 2, 2015 A trial is to determine whether somebody has broken the law or rules. Until then they are innocent until proven guilty. Could you imagine the country we'd live in if people could be punished without a trial? Who said anything about not getting a trial? There has to be a reasonable amount of evidence against the defendant for them to be charged and consequently be taken to trial. Things take as long as they take to get to that stage. If he is proven innocent in this case it will be on nothing more than a technicality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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