BWitcher Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I had a really eloquent post written out to reply to this but I really can't be bother to post it............because as usual you will twist and turn everything to suit your purpose.............which is exactly the same as you accuse Poole of doing...............peas in a pod springs to mind............ Shame really............... RP There's nothing that needs twisting or turning. The FIM has very clearly spelt it out. That is utter b******s....................yes it is old news................get over it RP Ward received the full reasoned decision on the 7th April. His lackeys were bleating about the FIM on the 2nd May asking where it was. So either they were lying, or it wasn't old news? Which one do you prefer? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 There's nothing that needs twisting or turning. The FIM has very clearly spelt it out. Ward received the full reasoned decision on the 7th April. His lackeys were bleating about the FIM on the 2nd May asking where it was. So either they were lying, or it wasn't old news? Which one do you prefer? So why was that information released when the initial hearing results came out in February then................. Like I said before you are reading what you want to into the report............not what the report really says............ RP RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 So why was that information released when the initial hearing results came out in February then................. Like I said before you are reading what you want to into the report............not what the report really says............ RP RP What are you talking about? The statement on the FIM website states that the relevant parties were given the full reasoned decision on the 7th April. Now, when I read 7th April, I take it to mean 7th April. Perhaps I am twisting things and it's wrong to think 7th April means 7th April.. I'd be interested to hear what your unbiased (cough) opinion of the meaning of 7th April is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) What are you talking about? The statement on the FIM website states that the relevant parties were given the full reasoned decision on the 7th April. Now, when I read 7th April, I take it to mean 7th April. Perhaps I am twisting things and it's wrong to think 7th April means 7th April.. I'd be interested to hear what your unbiased (cough) opinion of the meaning of 7th April is? Yes but when Ward was punished for what he did and the initial details were released on that at the end of February all that you have said was mentioned................... If you did not read the initial reports that were released before the full reports were released that is not my problem............ It was well publicised at the time and well documented.................. Perhaps you should think before you write stuff............all Poole fans knew what you describe as new news almost 3 months ago.............. There is no talking to some people............... RP Edited May 20, 2015 by Red Panda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Yes but when Ward was punished for what he did and the initial details were released on that at the end of February all that you have said was mentioned................... If you did not read the initial reports that were released before the full reports were released that is not my problem............ It was well publicised at the time and well documented.................. Perhaps you should think before you write stuff............all Poole fans knew what you describe as new news almost 3 months ago.............. There is no talking to some people............... RP Perhaps if you knew what you were commenting on you might get somewhere. The claim is that it is 'old news' that Ward was in possession of the full reasoned decisions on April 7th. Please point to me in the initial summary in February where it said Ward had received the full reasoned decisions on April 7th. Did they have a time machine? Of course not, it wasn't there so all of your waffle is redundant. Secondly, with regards to the deduction of Ward's points, this had been challenged by Darcy himself as confirmed by his team in Sweden. The results of said challenge had not been documented anywhere so again, most definitely were not 'old news'. However, the statement on the FIM website now clearly states that the matter is closed hence any appeal has failed. So again, not old news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Drunk scumbag prepared to endanger the lives of his fellow competitors. End of arguments. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Drunk scumbag prepared to endanger the lives of his fellow competitors. End of arguments. 👍🏻 couldn't have put it better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blazeaway Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You make it sound like he was over the limit and in charge of a lorry... He was under the drink drive limit and was clearly not drunk. Nicki Pedersen is more dangerous sober than Darcy Ward would of been on that bike. We all know what Darcy did was wrong, but let's have some perspective... And as long as people like you continue to defend and kiss his ar$e Ward will never learn. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 And as long as people like you continue to defend and kiss his ar$e Ward will never learn. Whether you like Ward or not and you clearly don't there is no need to suggest he was drunk as a lord. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 You make it sound like he was over the limit and in charge of a lorry... He was under the drink drive limit and was clearly not drunk. Nicki Pedersen is more dangerous sober than Darcy Ward would of been on that bike. We all know what Darcy did was wrong, but let's have some perspective... I like you Arya but some of your comments surprise me. Yes he wasn't drunk driving a lorry, He was over the limit and about to race at a speed much faster, with no brakes against other riders. I'm not sure how people can still defend him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) You make it sound like he was over the limit and in charge of a lorry... He was under the drink drive limit and was clearly not drunk. Nicki Pedersen is more dangerous sober than Darcy Ward would of been on that bike. We all know what Darcy did was wrong, but let's have some perspective... Incorrect again. He was over the drink drive limit upon his first test. If you think Ward had the brains to figure out that by the time the meeting started he would be under the drink drive limit then you're more deluded than I first though. To have been over the drink drive limit, at that stage in the afternoon he must have had a skinful the night before, not a few drinks.. You then have the audacity to bring Nicki Pedersen into the equation, someone who refrains from drinking alcohol during the speedway season. Someone who when tested records 0.00. We then get subjected to lies and deceit from the scoundrel (Ward). Backed up by further lies and deceit from your very own promotion, pulling the wool over your eyes, claiming they don't know what's going on. I personally (but I am neither a speedway rider nor a drunk driver!), couldn't imagine he posed any real risk to other riders. And this comment just about sums you up. Despicable. Fortunately the FIM disagree. Edited May 20, 2015 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I don't defend his drinking at all. He did a very stupid thing and I hoooope that he's learned his lesson this time, but to say he was a drunken scumbag putting other riders lives at risk when he was nearly half the drink drive limit (is that right?) by the time he was due to ride just seems a little extreme to me. It was clearly a stupid thing to do, but I can't imagine he was any serious risk. I've seen Nicki Pedersen do far more dangerous things sober and nobody seems to bat an eyelid. I personally (but I am neither a speedway rider nor a drunk driver!), couldn't imagine he posed any real risk to other riders. You imagine wrong, and you obviously have no idea of the implication of impaired reactions at speed .. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Not sure why you keep comparing him to Pedersen. He does race hard but what Ward did was even more dangerous. He knowingly put his peers at risk and then made excuse after excuse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I'd probably feel safer as a rider in a GP full of riders half the drink drive limite than a GP full of sober Nicki Pedersen's Keep trying to drag Nicki Pedersen into it all you wish, you're just making yourself look a bigger fool each and every time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB252 Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 I've seen Nicki Pedersen do far more dangerous things sober and nobody seems to bat an eyelid. Come off it. Pedersen's every move is scrutinized in this sterile, prima donna era for the sport. He's about the only modern day rider that would hold his own in the bygone age when Speedway was far, far more exciting and colourful than it is now. Back in the day, riders like Hans Nielsen would have put their grandmother through the fence to win a World Championship race and that is what, ultimately, sorts the men (and multiple World Champions) out from silly little boys. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Bit over the top BWitcher, even for you Not at all, in fact it was quite mild. Not even Ward would come out with such utter garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Perhaps if you knew what you were commenting on you might get somewhere. The claim is that it is 'old news' that Ward was in possession of the full reasoned decisions on April 7th. Please point to me in the initial summary in February where it said Ward had received the full reasoned decisions on April 7th. Did they have a time machine? Of course not, it wasn't there so all of your waffle is redundant. Secondly, with regards to the deduction of Ward's points, this had been challenged by Darcy himself as confirmed by his team in Sweden. The results of said challenge had not been documented anywhere so again, most definitely were not 'old news'. However, the statement on the FIM website now clearly states that the matter is closed hence any appeal has failed. So again, not old news. No talking to some people..................read what I wrote again.................I never said they had the full reasoning back then I said the initial reports stated about Ward losing his points................they were released back in February with the full reports released on the date you stated................. There is no point arguing with someone who is so blatantly anti Poole and just is making a rod for their own back by contradicting everything that any Poole fan says................... Go back to your own teams page............we don't want you on ours.............. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 (edited) No talking to some people..................read what I wrote again.................I never said they had the full reasoning back then I said the initial reports stated about Ward losing his points................they were released back in February with the full reports released on the date you stated................. There is no point arguing with someone who is so blatantly anti Poole and just is making a rod for their own back by contradicting everything that any Poole fan says................... Go back to your own teams page............we don't want you on ours.............. RP Once again you haven't read. When you have a valid point to make, that isn't biased Poole diatribe, it might be relevant. As I have quite clearly explained to you, the removal of Wards points was CHALLENGED. We now know that the challenge has failed, so that is not 'old news' as you claim it is. Nothing to do with being 'anti-Poole'. I haven't made the decision. Meanwhile......... this is .......... a........ speedway..........discussion.........forum...... so I will continue............to post........... on threads ..............that interest me........... Edited May 20, 2015 by BWitcher 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 No talking to some people..................read what I wrote again.................I never said they had the full reasoning back then I said the initial reports stated about Ward losing his points................they were released back in February with the full reports released on the date you stated................. There is no point arguing with someone who is so blatantly anti Poole and just is making a rod for their own back by contradicting everything that any Poole fan says................... Go back to your own teams page............we don't want you on ours.............. RP It's a public forum, and freedom of speech applies to every page whether you like it or not ...... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted May 20, 2015 Report Share Posted May 20, 2015 Once again you haven't read. When you have a valid point to make, that isn't biased Poole diatribe, it might be relevant. As I have quite clearly explained to you, the removal of Wards points was CHALLENGED. We now know that the challenge has failed, so that is not 'old news' as you claim it is. Nothing to do with being 'anti-Poole'. I haven't made the decision. Meanwhile......... this is .......... a........ speedway..........discussion.........forum...... so I will continue............to post........... on threads ..............that interest me........... No you read into things what you want to not the facts.............. I am a Poole fan and have been for 39 years through good times and bad..............I will post what I like on this thread..............when you stop posting anti Poole and anti Ward diatribe people might just listen to you.............. Fortunately I am too ladylike to tell you what I really think of fans that constantly criticise other teams...............true fans support all teams and get behind riders when they have problems............. RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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