SCB Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 It seems to me that the delays were down to the FIM not providing the breathalyser information quickly enough. I suppose it's only fair that Darcy has the information and time he needs to prepare a defence. No, it was Darcys team requesting frivolous data. I don't think we're ever going to agree on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 No, it was Darcys team requesting frivolous data. I don't think we're ever going to agree on this one. And what everyone seems to be forgetting is requesting a further delay later on because they weren't 'ready'. And it was after this request that the #FIMJOKE campaign began to cover their tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 And what everyone seems to be forgetting is requesting a further delay later on because they weren't 'ready'. And it was after this request that the #FIMJOKE campaign began to cover their tracks. The further delay was only from the 8th until the 30th of Jan yet had to wait from then until the 26th of February for the decision. No, it was Darcys team requesting frivolous data. I don't think we're ever going to agree on this one. Frivolous to you maybe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 The further delay was only from the 8th until the 30th of Jan yet had to wait from then until the 26th of February for the decision. So the decision was quick then as 45 days are allowed for that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Wrong, read again. They put forward a pathetic objection, knowing it wouldn't be changed.. then a few weeks later when nothing further had changed WARDS team requested a further delay as they weren't ready yet. Strange how they were objecting a few weeks earlier if they weren't ready.. The initial delay was also down to Wards team requesting 'further information' as they scrambled for technicalities and loopholes. I've read it. The delays were from Wards team, the final and longest one because they 'weren't ready'... It was after THIS delay, requested by the WARD team that the bleating about the time being taken began. No need to crawl back anyway thank you very much as I have the capability to read and process information. I understand it's difficult for you to come to terms with the way Ward has treated and misled you but now is the time to act like an adult, not continue to live in a make believe world. You read again, they put forward a request for more information on the breath test which is why the hearing was delayed from November until January 8th. It was delayed from January 8th until January 30th because preparation time was limited due to the christmas break. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) You read again, they put forward a request for more information on the breath test which is why the hearing was delayed from November until January 8th. It was delayed from January 8th until January 30th because preparation time was limited due to the christmas break. Once again skipping the part where they complained it had been put back.. only to then request an extension themselves... when nothing had happened in between. The initial request for 'information' was purely frivolous in the first place. Edited May 17, 2015 by BWitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) So the decision was quick then as 45 days are allowed for that. 45 days is a long time to come to a decision which seemingly was cut and dried although i know that is the rules. Once again skipping the part where they complained it had been put back.. only to then request an extension themselves... when nothing had happened in between. The initial request for 'information' was purely frivolous in the first place. Frivolous to you maybe, if it was frivolous why didn't they just throw it out and carry on with the original date. By the way i already mentioned the part that the legal team objected to it being put back and then accepted the new date. Edited May 17, 2015 by foreverblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 And what if that information had only been provided to them a few days before the hearing was due, which didn't leave them with enough time to investigate those factors? The request to delay the hearing came AFTER they had complained about it being put back. There were no new requests for information or any other events in the interim period. The Ward team was already in possession of the information they had requested a long time prior. So why were they complaining about a delay, then requesting a delay a little while later? Amateurish. Anyway, we won't agree so may as well move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 The request to delay the hearing came AFTER they had complained about it being put back. There were no new requests for information or any other events in the interim period. The Ward team was already in possession of the information they had requested a long time prior. So why were they complaining about a delay, then requesting a delay a little while later? Amateurish. Anyway, we won't agree so may as well move on. Yippee you want to move, i said that about two pages back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) Wolves tried to book Harris but only 20mins before another team had booked him to guest. Wonder who for? Would have to be Janowski,NKI,Nicholls or Zagar as average to high for rest. Edited May 17, 2015 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) I suggest you read the report properly instead of reading what you want to into it.................and no not angry as you describe...............if you read it properly Ward's team were not responsible for the all the delays........................the FIM are responsible for the way the GP series is run..............they are the ones that took their time investigating......................they are to blame for the delays.............. I suggest you crawl back to your own teams page and stop spouting rubbish about things you clearly know nothing about...........its people like you who are not even interested in Poole as your home team that come on this thread and talk utter tripe that make me angry............... RP A childish retort as expected, from someone who can't read a report properly. As for talking of things you know nothing about .... pot and kettle spring to mind. Edited May 17, 2015 by stevebrum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 So is it Poole booking Harris for Janowski? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 (edited) So is it Poole booking Harris for Janowski?That was my first thought but then noticed Janowski rode and scored well in Poland today so surely couldn't get a guest for a rider that isn't injured, even if they don't usually score well at Belle Vue Edited May 17, 2015 by mdmc82 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 A childish retort as expected, from someone who can't read a report properly. As for talking of things you know nothing about .... pot and kettle spring to mind. Haha very funny, Bwitcher has suggested we move on or agree to disagree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 So... why is Harris guesting for Janowski, who rode in the GP and rode in the league today and scored well? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 So... why is Harris guesting for Janowski, who rode in the GP and rode in the league today and scored well? Where did you get that from, i thought we were at full strength monday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aces51 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 That was my first thought but then noticed Janowski rode and scored well in Poland today so surely couldn't get a guest for a rider that isn't injured, even if they don't usually score well at Belle Vue It's Poole so I'm sure there is a good and valid reason why Janowski won't be riding despite his appearances over the weekend in Finland and Poland. The fact that Harris is a Kirky Lane specialist is purely coincidental. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Harris is guesting for either Janowski, NKI or Nicholls. His average doesn't allow him to guest for anyone else riding tomorrow. Magic may have aggravated his knee whilst riding over the weekend?? NKI could have aggravated his injury judging by the way he rode Saturday? Scotty could have over-exerted himself with all the excitement of commentating on Saturday? Doubtless we shall all find out soon, unless its just a smokescreen by Wolves at not getting a guest for Lindgren - god forbid!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Harris is guesting for either Janowski, NKI or Nicholls. His average doesn't allow him to guest for anyone else riding tomorrow. Magic may have aggravated his knee whilst riding over the weekend?? NKI could have aggravated his injury judging by the way he rode Saturday? Scotty could have over-exerted himself with all the excitement of commentating on Saturday? Doubtless we shall all find out soon, unless its just a smokescreen by Wolves at not getting a guest for Lindgren - god forbid!! I would over exert myself all the time if i had Scottys wife! 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdmc82 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Harris is guesting for either Janowski, NKI or Nicholls. His average doesn't allow him to guest for anyone else riding tomorrow. Magic may have aggravated his knee whilst riding over the weekend?? NKI could have aggravated his injury judging by the way he rode Saturday? Scotty could have over-exerted himself with all the excitement of commentating on Saturday? Doubtless we shall all find out soon, unless its just a smokescreen by Wolves at not getting a guest for Lindgren - god forbid!! Harris was booked as a guest last night so they must have guested Magic may "hurt his knee" again after scoring double figures the following day. Making a mockery of the sport. No facility should be granted for a rider that's not injured. 28 day ban should be issued if withholding services 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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