SteveLyric2 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 He posted a photo (in reverse) of himself in the Wroclaw pits in last years Poole kevlars with the caption 'And again'! Some are saying its simply back on a speedway bike again - others are saying its 'back at Poole'!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 If he said that, then he must have more than one facebook account. Nobody mentioned it because it's not there. https://www.facebook.com/teamjanowski/photos/pb.127350297395837.-2207520000.1425391859./629057750558420/?type=1 Oooops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DunRobin Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Funny how the new rolling average rule has changed & it will be the end of Dak on that average if he is replaced. Would also be the end of the league for 2015 & you really do wonder how stupid the rest of the promotors are who voted for this. Where has this information come from? The 2015 rules state "from a specified number of meetings" but does not state how many rides. If this was true, then the Poole line-up if Dak's rolling average is 7+ would be illegal, as no team line-ups have been ratified yet according to the BSPA site. That is still showing as "for information only". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Where has this information come from? The 2015 rules state "from a specified number of meetings" but does not state how many rides. If this was true, then the Poole line-up if Dak's rolling average is 7+ would be illegal, as no team line-ups have been ratified yet according to the BSPA site. That is still showing as "for information only". http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=62662&p=2581210 The averages won't change until the first set of GSAs come out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peatbog Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 (edited) https://www.facebook.com/teamjanowski/photos/pb.127350297395837.-2207520000.1425391859./629057750558420/?type=1 Oooops! Yes SCB, I see what you mean. Must be my old age. https://www.facebook.com/teamjanowski/photos/pb.127350297395837.-2207520000.1425391859./629057750558420/?type=1 Oooops! Edited March 3, 2015 by peatbog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted March 3, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Milik practise in Wroclaw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Milik practise in Wroclaw What has this got to do with 'Poole 2015'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 where is josh ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 http://www.speedway-forum.co.uk/forums/index.php?showtopic=62662&p=2581210 The averages won't change until the first set of GSAs come out. What a co-incidence that is & yet again the credibility of this sport is taken down even further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 where is josh ??? Riding for Somerset................ RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 What a co-incidence that is & yet again the credibility of this sport is taken down even further. Or a clever promoter knowing the legit rules. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Its the kind of rule which does ones head in though, regardless of which team benefits. A reasonable second string achieves a high average through beating other second strings and FTR's which is further enhanced by a tweak to the rolling average regulations and all of a sudden he could potentially be replaced by one of the best riders in the world. There are far too many of these loopholes in our sport and have been for far too long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 The whole point of a rolling average is that riders averages change slowly over time. But now we have a situation where Norths average will jump a point and frankly, from 20 meetings, a lot of riders averages will change quicker. And then there the fact that some riders averages will roll from 2012 or even 2013 but Ed Kennett and Stuart Robson, despite having meetings from them seasons will not! Barmy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Jones Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 Or a clever promoter knowing the legit rules. That all depends on how long Ford has known of the rule change, and whether all of the promoters were informed at the same time. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
500cc Posted March 3, 2015 Report Share Posted March 3, 2015 It's interesting that Poole waited on Ward. The original plan was to include Janowski. I guess the fact Ford has waited on Ward suggests that Holder wasn't initially part of his first choice team. I suspect what happened is Ford became more concerned that Ward wasn't going to be available and didn't want to risk missing out on both Ward and Holder. Having tied up Holder, Janowski appears to have gone from first choice to third choice. It's fair to say, had the Ward case been dropped end of last year, then the top 2 would have been Ward and Janowski. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) What has this got to do with 'Poole 2015'? Could say the same about any post involving D Ward!! Edited March 4, 2015 by TesarRacing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agrotron Posted March 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 I would expect to hear team news in the next 24 hours. Where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy robin Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Its the kind of rule which does ones head in though, regardless of which team benefits. A reasonable second string achieves a high average through beating other second strings and FTR's which is further enhanced by a tweak to the rolling average regulations and all of a sudden he could potentially be replaced by one of the best riders in the world. There are far too many of these loopholes in our sport and have been for far too long. Well said & they wonder why fans are turning away still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 Well said & they wonder why fans are turning away still.On the other hand it reflects the up to date form of a rider.Of course because of the imbalance of opponents for 2 seasons in the EL it doesn't work out. Perhaps promotions should only be able to exchange second string riders with riders who obtained their average as a second string, same with heat leaders. Now that would mess Poole up if indeed what is being suggested is being considered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grachan Posted March 4, 2015 Report Share Posted March 4, 2015 (edited) Or a clever promoter knowing the legit rules. Actually it seems to be SCB who has noticed this, and pointed out how Poole could benefit. As far as we know, this isn't in Poole's planning, though it might be now!! The silly thing is, people pointed out before last season how the averages would be affected, yet they've done nothing about it. I'm not a fan of grading, which didn't work well for me last time it was used, but there should be some sort of grading in team building - ie heatleader, second string, reserve. So that North can only be replaced by someone with a lower average who is graded as "second string". To have a situation where Dakota North can be replaced by Krzysztof Kasprzak shows a lack of forward thinking - particularly as 90% of people here could see this sort of thing happening when the new race format was introduced. Edited March 4, 2015 by grachan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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