mdmc82 Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 From what I can gather Janowski was forced to ride today for his Polish club so not riding out of choice............... RP Did they also force him to go out and score double figures 😂 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noggin Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 Not half way through the season & the skullduggery has started........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 From what I can gather Janowski was forced to ride today for his Polish club so not riding out of choice............... RP Ah bless, forced to ride in the GP and forced to ride in Poland. But not well enough to ride at a track he doesn't like. Funny that. In real news Poole trying to cheat again it seems. The guest facility hopefully will be removed tomorrow then. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 From what I can gather Janowski was forced to ride today for his Polish club so not riding out of choice............... RP I couldn't see that on the statement on the Poole website 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirates Of Poole Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I don't buy this rubbish from Magic! You cannot ride on a Sunday and not Monday regardless of the size of track, he is a professional sportsman, never thought I would see this from him. Some people on here also need to remember, regardless of the situation with a guest being allowed, if Magic was with holding his services we would get a 28 day facility anyway! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 17, 2015 Report Share Posted May 17, 2015 I don't buy this rubbish from Magic! You cannot ride on a Sunday and not Monday regardless of the size of track, he is a professional sportsman, never thought I would see this from him. Some people on here also need to remember, regardless of the situation with a guest being allowed, if Magic was with holding his services we would get a 28 day facility anyway! Correct, but no magic for 28 days. From what I can gather Janowski was forced to ride today for his Polish club so not riding out of choice............... RP Bless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevehone Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 From what I can gather Janowski was forced to ride today for his Polish club so not riding out of choice............... RP so should Poole 'force' him to ride for them too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I recall Ward last year was forced to ride for Torun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Someone who knows the rules and regs a lot better than me will prob correct me but surely he's only missing so he doesn't have a sh1tter of a meeting and drop his average down. Then I would imagine after this meeting it's all home meetings or easy away matches where Magics average can go above Wards and he can be replaced. I know this has probably been suggested elsewhere on this thread but can't be arsed to read through it all. Like I say I might be totally wrong so I look forward to being corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poole Quay 7 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 This is just not acceptable at all and quite rightly, leaves Poole Speedway wide open for criticism. If Magic was forced to ride in Poland for his club and he finished with double points and unhurt, then Poole should inform him he has no other choice other than ride as our captain in the UK tonight. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Someone who knows the rules and regs a lot better than me will prob correct me but surely he's only missing so he doesn't have a sh1tter of a meeting and drop his average down. Then I would imagine after this meeting it's all home meetings or easy away matches where Magics average can go above Wards and he can be replaced. I know this has probably been suggested elsewhere on this thread but can't be arsed to read through it all. Like I say I might be totally wrong so I look forward to being corrected. I would hope you're totally wrong! As far as us Poole supporters are aware, Magic has signed to ride for the whole season and not just until the end of June. I for one would be amazed if Matt Ford would sink even lower and 'sack' Magic (or another(s)) to fit Ward in. However, other supporters have stated on here that if MF does do that then it would be done because it's the best for business. I would be stunned if Magic would agree to be Ward's stop gap, however being such a nice chap I wouldn't put it past MF to have sweet talked him into doing exactly that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) In January in the visa thread I quoted Gordon Pairmans post saying,,, Best thing to do with Pairmans statement is save it to your desktop or phone notes then on several occasions during the coming season when Poole get up to their usual unsavoury antics just re quote parts of it and ask why the change of heart. Pairman in his post wrote... This is simply to do with not wishing to cheat the public nor our broadcast partners, Sky Sports. If it means that we have to delay the start of the season then surely that's entirely reasonable. As a league, we should be looking to deliver the best entertainment and not seek compromises. Hoisted by your own petard. I don't buy this 'cheating the public' accusation!! Poole are using an exciting British GP rider at a track he has ridden well at previously, instead of a rider who has aggravated a serious knee injury and who has not scored particularly well at the same track in the past. How are the public being cheated exactly?? This is all about preparing those Poole fans who prefer Magic rather than Ward - to more readily accept the change(s) that may be coming!! Edited May 18, 2015 by Skidder1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I don't buy this 'cheating the public' accusation!! Poole are using an exciting British GP rider at a track he has ridden well at previously, instead of a rider who has aggravated a serious knee injury and who has not scored particularly well at the same track in the past. How are the public being cheated exactly?? This is all about preparing those Poole fans who prefer Magic rather than Ward - to more readily accept the change(s) that may be coming!! It is cheating Belle Vue out of seeing a full Poole team and seeing Janowski, every team should put their full team out if possible, injuries happen but the excuses given are pathetic and Belle Vue should ride under protest, if he is fit enough to ride in Poland he is fit enough to ride here, the whole situation is indefensible. They even announce on twitter that he won't be risked which sounds like a Poole management decision. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Academic now - its off. Incidentally I guess Miedzinski will be rushing back for Thursday's Swindon meeting?? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Academic now - its off. Incidentally I guess Miedzinski will be rushing back for Thursday's Swindon meeting?? He stated that he would return slowly, so no not rushing back. Am unsure what slowly means unless he is walking from Poland rather than flying. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 I must start by saying I have not been to a speedway meeting this season. This has been mainly because of other calls on my time and cash. However, I must say that when I go it will be mainly Premier League as although there are guests and r/r used this is not anything like the EL. My visits to Poole will be mainly to see my many friends made since 1985. The problems with the EL is that so many of the riders ride in at least three different counties leagues plus all the international and GP type meetings. Injuries are bound to be at greater risk with the number of rides and the toll on the body with injuries and fatigue must be tremendous. The Polish League appear to have a such a hold on their riders they can make them ride even if they are injured. I think that in every other country each team sign on more riders than are used in one meeting, in other words a squad system. This excludes any guest riders although on the odd occasion they do use r/r. Crowds relate to riders who ride for their team. There is no chace that any guest rider will underperform for any reason. ( not saying that any do on purpose). You do hear in the crowd some people doubting a guests commitment. This would also stop the comments and doubts of other teams supporters (as quite rightly made about Magic). Teams would not be able to pick a guest who likes a particular track that their rider hates. Come on people who run speedway the problems are quite obvious and could be solved with a bit of thought. I am sure crowds would return. Looking at other sports which other professional sport have guests in competitive matches A? I can't think of any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 NEIL Middleditch has urged the speedway world to move on from the Darcy Ward saga. Poole asset Ward was in February handed a 10-month ban by the Fédération Internationale de Motocyclisme following a failed alcohol test at the Latvian Grand Prix in August. The FIM – the world governing body of motorcycle racing – drew fresh interest over the weekend when it made public the circumstances surrounding the test and the ensuing disciplinary process. The 17-page document, titled ‘Decision of the FIM Disciplinary Court (CDI)’, was published on the FIM website. However, Pirates boss Middleditch told the Daily Echo: "We want to put all of that behind us now and just wait for Darcy to get back on a bike which, at the end of the day, is what the majority of people want to see. "You want to see the best in the world on motorcycles and Darcy is one of the best in the world. He has been missed. "As I've said before, I don't condone his actions but he has been punished and it's time to move on." Ward will be eligible to ride from June 28 as he had served a provisional suspension from August until February, which effectively counted towards his 10-month ban. Promoter Matt Ford has admitted that the Aussie could ride for one of Poole's Elite League rivals in 2015 if he could not be fitted in at Wimborne Road upon his return. bournemouthecho.co.uk Absolutely hilarious from Muddlo! Wait for the report we've been told for so long! Darcy will be preparing a statement once we have the report! There's thing you don't know, wait for the report! Well now we have it and Muddlo's realised he's been treated like a plonka! Move on, nothing to see here!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tellboy Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Promoter Matt Ford has admitted that the Aussie could ride for one of Poole's Elite League rivals in 2015 if he could not be fitted in at Wimborne Road upon his return. If Matt Ford has said this i think he is a bit out of order concerning his own riders.He is saying Ward will be back in the Poole side if they can fit him in.So the riders there at the moment are in jeopardy of being pushed aside awaiting a rider to replace one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldace Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 Absolutely hilarious from Muddlo! Wait for the report we've been told for so long! Darcy will be preparing a statement once we have the report! There's thing you don't know, wait for the report! Well now we have it and Muddlo's realised he's been treated like a plonka! Move on, nothing to see here!! Wasn't it Middlo that first told us there were mitigating circumstances for Darcy attempting to ride drunk. Middlo obviously knew what these circumstances were (that a 23 year old bloke found out his parents were splitting up, and this 2 weeks before the offence) and in his world they justify what Darcy was about to do had he not been caught. Perhaps the "don't condone his actions" line is the reason we are were we are today. Middlo has constantly condoned Ward's behaviour. With each indiscretion he must have felt more and more untouchable, no one was willing to bollock him and bring him down a peg or two. Like I said before, a young guy with no brains, plenty of money with people fawning over him, far away from home with no one to guide him was always likely to be a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted May 18, 2015 Report Share Posted May 18, 2015 (edited) NEIL Middleditch has urged the speedway world to move on from the Darcy Ward saga. "You want to see the best in the world on motorcycles and Darcy is one of the best in the world. He has been missed. bournemouthecho.co.uk This doesn't include Janowski then?! Very selective statement or just not thinking through what he said more like!! Edited May 18, 2015 by TesarRacing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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