SteveLyric2 Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 If Ford and Middleditch can look at the bigger picture for once, maybe they would see that Darcy going to another team/club for the rest of this season and possibly next year too, would make him a better rider/person. He needs to loose the shackles of Poole Speedway IMO. I didn't think any other club could afford him, with everyone being on their 'uppers' so to speak?! Anyway things should be a lot clearer soon as its bound to get out which club has sponsored his UK Visa application!! Whilst I do not condone Darcy Wards many misdemeanours in any way, shape or form I do admire his undoubted skill on a speedway bike. So from that perspective alone I would love to see him return to us...however I think it should wait until next year. It certainly wouldn't be fair on any of our current lads to be 'sacked' to get him back in the team. Yes we could do with strengthening a touch (sorry Davey!), but other than that all the boys are pretty much performing as one would expect and one or two exceeding it (take a bow Dak). With Holder's confidence starting to build and Magic's return imminent we will only get stronger. Therefore do we need Darcy this year? It would take a huge shake up to accommodate him up which would more than likely unbalance us so I just hope that Matt Ford recognises this and doesn't adopt the 'gotta get Darcy in no matter what' attitude. Having said that, Matt Ford does what Matt Ford wants so I wouldn't be surprised if he rips us apart to get Darcy back in. Matt will do what is best for attendances and the business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I didn't think any other club could afford him, with everyone being on their 'uppers' so to speak?! Anyway things should be a lot clearer soon as its bound to get out which club has sponsored his UK Visa application!! Matt will do what is best for attendances and the business! Exactly! Sod those that pay week after week to watch the side HE wants. He is a promoter that cares just about the buck! I can tell you that is one of the contributions to numbers falling in recent years. I do understand the 'it's a business' thing, however there should always be a true and good relationship between club owners and their own supporters in every sport, this is sadly lacking at our club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) The theory that Middlo and Matt Ford have done Darcy no favours, i believe is totally misguided, as far as i am aware they have tried to help him where they can but at the end of the day he makes his own decisions and nobody is responsible for those decisions other than Darcy Ward. It is true that Middlo has put his foot in it at times in trying to protect Darcy which leaves him and Poole as a club vunerable to criticism. Edited May 12, 2015 by foreverblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 (edited) I didn't think any other club could afford him, with everyone being on their 'uppers' so to speak?! Anyway things should be a lot clearer soon as its bound to get out which club has sponsored his UK Visa application!! Matt will do what is best for attendances and the business! Exactly! Sod those that pay week after week to watch the side HE wants. He is a promoter that cares just about the buck! I can tell you that is one of the contributions to numbers falling in recent years. I do understand the 'it's a business' thing, however there should always be a true and good relationship between club owners and their own supporters in every sport, this is sadly lacking at our club. There can never 'always' be a true and good relationship with all supporters, as you clearly demonstrate that not all supporters share the same view!! The business aspect of any club should always come first as without the business being right, there wouldn't be a team to support!! Not sure where you are coming from really? The club has a thriving supporters club (R.E.F.), many new and long-standing sponsors and has had a successful team for most of the seasons since MF took over! OK I haven't always agreed with every team signing, but that's the same in any sport, no matter who is in charge. If there's a reason for any fall off in attendance, imo its down to the cost of admission (the same at most clubs) and if/when the team isn't winning its home meetings. Attendances will shoot up if/when Darcy Ward returns even though it will mean other changes in the team - deserved or otherwise, or even if he's loaned out in the best interests of British Speedway!!. Edited May 14, 2015 by Skidder1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris4gillian Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I completely disagree with most of what you've posted there Skids (heh,heh!), but we're all entitled to our own opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Surely Darcy won't want to be out of action like he has been ever again. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't race for Poole, his club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Having said that, Matt Ford does what Matt Ford wants so I wouldn't be surprised if he rips us apart to get Darcy back in. Ripping apart a team to suit just one rider will send a very clear message to the other riders - unless you're name Is Darcy Ward then you are classed as less important to the club. I can only imagine how Magic would feel if he was cast aside to bring back the liability after he was made to wait virtually most of the close season because he was second best choice to Darcy all along. If I was Magic I'd never want to put Poole a priority in future! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon Hammer Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 If Ford and Middleditch can look at the bigger picture for once, maybe they would see that Darcy going to another team/club for the rest of this season and possibly next year too, would make him a better rider/person. He needs to loose the shackles of Poole Speedway IMO. Another splendid idea, reckon a year or 2 under the guidence of Jon Cook could be the making of him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cityrebel Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Another splendid idea, reckon a year or 2 under the guidence of Jon Cook could be the making of himi agree, he should get the hang of the Central Park track in no time!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I don't think Magic will be cast aside, but I think we might see Dak and Davey on the way. Im at a loss to understand the fascination to have Ward back in the team at the expense, particularly in Norths case, of 2 riders who are doing their job. Ward always will be a loose cannon it seems. All this talk of he is getting his bikes ready and using the gym is irrelevent if he comes back and behaves like a prat. But we have seen on many occasions how Ford and old man Middlo see no wrong in Darcy so im sure he will be fitted in somehow. I would have far more respect if Poole leave him out and go on to be successful. I would love to see Poole mess about with their 1-7 to accomodate the golden prat and then start to slide down the league. But then aagain they need to do something with their side because Coventry are just going to steamroller everyone at the moment and look absolute certaintys for top spot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Coventry steam roller everyone? Not sure about that. Poole will find a place for Ward, and so they should. Could you seriously want anyone else in heat 13 and 15 when it matters? Rumours of Darcy going to Gorzow when his ban ends...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Ward is what many would regard as a flawed genius, like George Best for example but as far as Matt Ford is concerned is it just about getting people through the turnstiles and Ward certainly improves that. He is without doubt one of the most exciting riders there has ever been and he is a rider that you would want to see every week. Matt Ford, Middlo and all Poole fans want to see him back to his best and overtaking from the back like we know he can and i am sure the majority of fans of all clubs want to see that. Unfortunately he has got himself into trouble a few times which had made some dislike him but we all hope he has learn't from that and will move on with his speedway life without further off track incidents. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Im at a loss to understand the fascination to have Ward back in the team at the expense, particularly in Norths case, of 2 riders who are doing their job. Ward always will be a loose cannon it seems. All this talk of he is getting his bikes ready and using the gym is irrelevent if he comes back and behaves like a prat. But we have seen on many occasions how Ford and old man Middlo see no wrong in Darcy so im sure he will be fitted in somehow. Are, i wondered when Bamber Gascoigne would pop a post on the Poole forum running Ward down. Give him a break, he is serving his ban, keeping tight liped. Jees is ther no pleasing you!!! I would have far more respect if Poole leave him out and go on to be successful. I would love to see Poole mess about with their 1-7 to accomodate the golden prat and then start to slide down the league. But then aagain they need to do something with their side because Coventry are just going to steamroller everyone at the moment and look absolute certaintys for top spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I wouldn't like to lose out on Dak, I'd rather keep him in the team. I am just predicting what Matt and Neil will do. I see a side with Magic, Chris and Darcy as heatleaders and Kyle Newman at reserve. Those four are capable of scoring up to 40pts a match for us. The remaining 3 riders would only need to score a handful of points between them. I don't think Darcy is a loose cannon. I think he got off too easy with mistakes of the past and never really learnt a lesson. I think this time might be different. Those four would struggle to reach 40 points with the new format especially the heat leaders against the opposition heat leaders and where they race with each other in the same race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sommelier Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Im at a loss to understand the fascination to have Ward back in the team at the expense, particularly in Norths case, of 2 riders who are doing their job. Ward always will be a loose cannon it seems. All this talk of he is getting his bikes ready and using the gym is irrelevent if he comes back and behaves like a prat. But we have seen on many occasions how Ford and old man Middlo see no wrong in Darcy so im sure he will be fitted in somehow. I wondered when Bamber Gascoigne would pop a post on the Poole forum running Ward down. Give him a break, he is serving his ban, keeping tight lipped. Jees is ther NO pleasing you!! I would have far more respect if Poole leave him out and go on to be successful. I would love to see Poole mess about with their 1-7 to accomodate the golden prat and then start to slide down the league. But then aagain they need to do something with their side because Coventry are just going to steamroller everyone at the moment and look absolute certaintys for top spot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I wouldn't like to lose out on Dak, I'd rather keep him in the team. I am just predicting what Matt and Neil will do. I see a side with Magic, Chris and Darcy as heatleaders and Kyle Newman at reserve. Those four are capable of scoring up to 40pts a match for us. The remaining 3 riders would only need to score a handful of points between them. I don't think Darcy is a loose cannon. I think he got off too easy with mistakes of the past and never really learnt a lesson. I think this time might be different. Lets not forget that any redeclaration can only have 2 riders over 7 points!! The original 'pre-Ward ban' plan was to have Darcy and Magic as the 2 x 7+ heat leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Lets not forget that any redeclaration can only have 2 riders over 7 points!! The original 'pre-Ward ban' plan was to have Darcy and Magic as the 2 x 7+ heat leaders. It says that on the initial declaration but where does it say it has to be only two riders over 7 on a re-declaration, is this a loophole or have i just missed the re-declaration rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Im at a loss to understand the fascination to have Ward back in the team at the expense, particularly in Norths case, of 2 riders who are doing their job. Ward always will be a loose cannon it seems. All this talk of he is getting his bikes ready and using the gym is irrelevent if he comes back and behaves like a prat. But we have seen on many occasions how Ford and old man Middlo see no wrong in Darcy so im sure he will be fitted in somehow. I would have far more respect if Poole leave him out and go on to be successful. I would love to see Poole mess about with their 1-7 to accomodate the golden prat and then start to slide down the league. But then aagain they need to do something with their side because Coventry are just going to steamroller everyone at the moment and look absolute certaintys for top spot I thought you were a fan of Ward's on-track exploits. And weren't you one of many that criticised the signing of North?! It says that on the initial declaration but where does it say it has to be only two riders over 7 on a re-declaration, is this a loophole or have i just missed the re-declaration rules 17.4.2 A Teams combined MA for the top 5 positions must not exceed 34.00 points nor include more than 2 x Riders, whose MA exceeds 7.00 or 2 Doubling-Up Riders (satisfying the same conditions as for the initial Team Declaration) when re-declared, either permanently or temporarily, except where the MA of the introduced Rider is equal to, or lower than the Rider being replaced. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 I thought you were a fan of Ward's on-track exploits. And weren't you one of many that criticised the signing of North?! I had no doubts of Daks potential, and those that were critical of his signing allowed their own personal opinion of him to cloud their judgement of his progression and year on year improvement... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TesarRacing Posted May 12, 2015 Report Share Posted May 12, 2015 Absolutely Blu, Dak's performance this season has not come as a surprise to many who have followed his progression. It will be a travesty if he loses his place. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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