Haza Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 Depending on what the club are planning to do with changes to the side and after all it's all about averages I'd still be tempted even after last nights cock up with Harris to keep Kenneth he still has the ability to beat top riders . As we speak I'd guess only 3 riders team places are safe Niels Robert and Lewis - and once Rory is fit enough I'd involve him in the team as a none riding team captain his influence in the pits is invaluable . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike1944 Posted June 4, 2015 Report Share Posted June 4, 2015 (edited) Bjerre must go, he has let KL down on many occasions when he was badly needed. The episode with Harris looked like he was just miffed at Harris being given the b&w helmet and he just wanted to prove a point. Lynn must dump him asap, this is just nothing recent he has always been the same rides good abroad and makes little effort here. Edited June 4, 2015 by mike1944 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I would get rid of Bjerre as one thing I can't stand is people who do not try and just give up. I pay good money to watch 4 riders race not just give up on the second bend if they are not in the front. I think we need to replace Bjerre, porsing and Rory and Morris a major overhaul is needed if we are to stay in the top 4. I would go for eastbournes Bradley Wilson-Dean If we are allowed that is Andre Lebedev. Emil Sayfutdinov and Zmarzlik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bagpuss Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I think the prospects of getting any eastern European riders over here is remote. BWD won't be allowed to replace Morris so I would stick with him as there aren't really any better options around. No idea who we can get in but three new faces would freshen the team up no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecoombdog Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's funny reading all these Bjerre comments because after I suggested he was not interested when he missed the gate earlier in the year at Swindon I was given a gob full by at least 1 KL fan! Now everyone is saying the same thing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 You make good points ...but do remember who said this a few weeks back ? You have probably watched KB many times before, but this could be the first since his last injury.. You say it is a joke to connect past accidents to that of their present form, Then I suggest to talk with Chris Holder. A shadow of his former self who has gone from World Champion to someone who is struggling at the moment...and that is totally down to his previous injuries.... But given time, hopefully, both will recapture their former ability....... Sorry if this sort of thing disappoints you....... but they're not robots...... I made a personal pact a few weeks ago, never to respond to your posts, as you have this, nasty attitude, giving out an impression that you're superior to others. The allegation you make above is so totally wrong, it insults my integrity. Whether it is a genuine mistake on your behalf, I don't know, but never have I thought that, let alone say it. Winning to me is nice, but not that important. I am all for giving riders time to recapture their form. I have more patience than most, and always give the riders the benefit of any doubt. So to even suggest I said that above, is farcical. Nobody has been more supportive of Chris Holder than I. and am so pleased, he is now back riding to something like the standard we have associated with him. If you think I have said these things, then please spend some time and find any post, where I have rubbished riders recovering from injuries. I put it to you, you will have a long search. As with KB, I have always given him total support when other have crucified him. Remembering the rider he once was, I always felt he would get back to something like his old form. But I saw a different side to him in that Poole meeting. And like I commented in the original post, he didn't even try, and that to me is totally unacceptable. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 It's funny reading all these Bjerre comments because after I suggested he was not interested when he missed the gate earlier in the year at Swindon I was given a gob full by at least 1 KL fan! Now everyone is saying the same thing! We've been thinking it since he signed for Lynn, such a frustrating rider. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) I made a personal pact a few weeks ago, never to respond to your posts, as you have this, nasty attitude, giving out an impression that you're superior to others. The allegation you make above is so totally wrong, it insults my integrity. Whether it is a genuine mistake on your behalf, I don't know, but never have I thought that, let alone say it. Winning to me is nice, but not that important. I am all for giving riders time to recapture their form. I have more patience than most, and always give the riders the benefit of any doubt. So to even suggest I said that above, is farcical. Nobody has been more supportive of Chris Holder than I. and am so pleased, he is now back riding to something like the standard we have associated with him. If you think I have said these things, then please spend some time and find any post, where I have rubbished riders recovering from injuries. I put it to you, you will have a long search. As with KB, I have always given him total support when other have crucified him. Remembering the rider he once was, I always felt he would get back to something like his old form. But I saw a different side to him in that Poole meeting. And like I commented in the original post, he didn't even try, and that to me is totally unacceptable. I think you got the wrong end of the stick ...Every fan who posted on the Swindon match told that Kenny was not trying you then spent post after post saying it was because he getting over injury and get off his back etc etc ...of course we now have the irony of you slagging him off for not trying only a few weeks later . Edited June 5, 2015 by orion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Polish video on Rory Schlein`s progress in hospital http://speedwaytv.sportowefakty.pl/15916/rory-schlein-wraca-do-zdrowia-to-bylo-straszne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I think you got the wrong end of the stick ...Every fan who posted on the Swindon match told that Kenny was not trying you then spent post after post saying it was because he getting over injury and get off his back etc etc ...of course we now have the irony of you slagging him off for not trying only a few weeks later . I am never too big to apologise when I'm wrong, but that was not the way your post read. I have always given the Injured riders the benefit of the doubt, and would have stuck up for Kenneth bearing in mind the problems he had suffered. Recently I had been pleased of the progress KB had made and felt he was recapturing some of his obvious talent. Not only was he gating more but was actually mixing it with other riders. So yes well pleased with his progress. Come, Wednesday at Poole, another side of his character came into play. Bearing in mind how his form had improved, I had high hopes of him performing well, in a match against the top contenders. After a poor first race from the dreaded gate 4, he was paired with Bomber on a tactical, trying to repair a 12 point deficit. Kenneth made a blinding start, and we all know what happened after that. He fought tooth and nail to keep Bomber behind him, effort, that any rider would have been proud off. My point is, In his next 2 races he again made both starts, and usually, that would have been enough for him to be away and gone. But he was quite happy to cruise around at the back with little or no effort applied. Not caring of the consequences to his team or the fans That's the bit that rankled me. It's got nothing to do with injuries, purely down to attitude... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Polish video on Rory Schlein`s progress in hospital http://speedwaytv.sportowefakty.pl/15916/rory-schlein-wraca-do-zdrowia-to-bylo-straszne Even better news now he is yesterday back in UK. Edited June 5, 2015 by Skidder1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 I am never too big to apologise when I'm wrong, but that was not the way your post read. I have always given the Injured riders the benefit of the doubt, and would have stuck up for Kenneth bearing in mind the problems he had suffered. Recently I had been pleased of the progress KB had made and felt he was recapturing some of his obvious talent. Not only was he gating more but was actually mixing it with other riders. So yes well pleased with his progress. Come, Wednesday at Poole, another side of his character came into play. Bearing in mind how his form had improved, I had high hopes of him performing well, in a match against the top contenders. After a poor first race from the dreaded gate 4, he was paired with Bomber on a tactical, trying to repair a 12 point deficit. Kenneth made a blinding start, and we all know what happened after that. He fought tooth and nail to keep Bomber behind him, effort, that any rider would have been proud off. My point is, In his next 2 races he again made both starts, and usually, that would have been enough for him to be away and gone. But he was quite happy to cruise around at the back with little or no effort applied. Not caring of the consequences to his team or the fans That's the bit that rankled me. It's got nothing to do with injuries, purely down to attitude... And that it what everyone told you the other week that he was not trying ....it was you who said it was down to injuries and then telling people to get off his back .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) And that it what everyone told you the other week that he was not trying ....it was you who said it was down to injuries and then telling people to get off his back .... Rightly or wrongly, I always speak as I find. Having seen KB many times, the highs and the lows. Sometimes, when suffering from lack of confidence. it can be perceived as a lack of effort. So always giving riders the benefit of doubt, I would have stuck up for him on that basis, Thinking, it looked different to what it actually was. So yes I would have voiced support for him.... Wednesday, sure opened my eyes. It was petulance of the extreme, He couldn't give a Damn..... That is what's unacceptable...... Give me someone, with less talent, but has 110% attitude, every time. Edited June 5, 2015 by GRW123 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven101 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Porsing has put a picture on instagram, saying tough time in uk but i will be changed now, so maybe he not on his way out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gee jay Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Is Leicester one of them he has turned down then? Not expecting an answer to that but i expect we will know soon enough. darcy isn't turning anybody down, matt ford is. he will only be lent out to some team who are not looked on as rivals for the title, my guess he's going to Leicester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) darcy isn't turning anybody down, matt ford is. he will only be lent out to some team who are not looked on as rivals for the title, my guess he's going to Leicester. That would be my guess too despite the fact he only got 5 points there last time and he won't be getting home early, sun delays etc. Doyle and Ward sounds a very powerful top two. Edited June 5, 2015 by foreverblue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 That would be my guess too despite the fact he only got 5 points there last time and he won't be getting home early, sun delays etc. Doyle and Ward sounds a very powerful top two. Although Doyle is one of the 3 Torun foreigners that Ward would have to replace in order to get any Polish races - so they might not get on that well?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Bend Bunching Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 hahaha Kenneth Bjerre welcome to Panthers world!!! Don't laugh too much because if his average drops much more he might be replacing Ollie Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lynnboy Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 (edited) Porsing has put a picture on instagram, saying tough time in uk but i will be changed now, so maybe he not on his way out? You can also read that as he is being changed in the team Edited June 5, 2015 by lynnboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panthers89 Posted June 5, 2015 Report Share Posted June 5, 2015 Come to the eoes porsing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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