proud panther Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 Think Manzares is unlikely to get a visa, but really hope I am proved wrong, because he is both talented & entertaining. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 it has been said that all visas were torn up regardless of time left on them. start again. So if they have to start again, the previous ave would have to be over 7, if not top 4 in state championships. When are the state championships in the US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 So if they have to start again, the previous ave would have to be over 7, if not top 4 in state championships. When are the state championships in the US? I think someone needs to have a quick word with Steve Evans to see if he can quickly arrange a California State Championships Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Perhaps Chris has arranged for Sky to produce an "Inside Track" dvd just for UKVI. It will show a shaded box labelled "corrider of special relationship" at the border control point as Gino enters the UK. Who could turn that down? wink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Billy Sanders lineup: King, Ellis, Risager, Schlein, Heeps, Nielsen, Garrity, Manzares, Barker, Kerr, Hawkins, Davies, Covatti, Robert Lambert, Tungate and Cook (tbc) Nice to see 16 riders for once Don't know if the tbc is for Cook or for any of the lineup.... Edited February 18, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 It's for Cook as the Ipswich Star reported the other day that Louis is confident he'll be there, but he's yet to officially confirm. Obviously the line up could change depending on the outcome of the Visa issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 the only way you will see gino ride in the billy sanders meeting is if he does not get paid for his services. any cash will need to be declared and thus making him being classed as a working visitor. therefore illegal in the eyes of others . (except chris louis ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 the only way you will see gino ride in the billy sanders meeting is if he does not get paid for his services. any cash will need to be declared and thus making him being classed as a working visitor. therefore illegal in the eyes of others . (except chris louis )I knew this was a wind up as soon as you suggested cash being declared! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 the only way you will see gino ride in the billy sanders meeting is if he does not get paid for his services. any cash will need to be declared and thus making him being classed as a working visitor. therefore illegal in the eyes of others . (except chris louis ) Did i not read somewhere on another thread, there were objections to riders even having after meeting rides ? to be honest i dont see what the problem is with riders having rides after a meeting has finished, even if they dont have a (empoyment) visa, they wont be earning money so surely that wont invalidate the visit visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Did i not read somewhere on another thread, there were objections to riders even having after meeting rides ? to be honest i dont see what the problem is with riders having rides after a meeting has finished, even if they dont have a (empoyment) visa, they wont be earning money so surely that wont invalidate the visit visa. Insurance liability? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icicle Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 What is needed now (if Poole/Holder is right) is something called a Migrant Sponsor License...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Anyone know if any more stadium improvements have been made over the winter? I assume the home straight stand didn't change? Or the tracks lights? (Some higher watt bulbs might help!!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 (edited) Looking through the new rules: 16.1.2 If neither Club has “ownership”, then it is determined by the League status of the Club that does “own” the Rider. If that Club is a NL Club then agreement can be made otherwise SR 16.1 applies. So Ipswich could have made an agreement with Birmingham over the use of Danny King then, only had to ask? Edited February 18, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Thought the BSPA "owned " him, not Brum? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Did i not read somewhere on another thread, there were objections to riders even having after meeting rides ? to be honest i dont see what the problem is with riders having rides after a meeting has finished, even if they dont have a (empoyment) visa, they wont be earning money so surely that wont invalidate the visit visa. Yes. The UNVI people have a file of every foreign rider who has ridden in second halves in the last three years. I think the earliest one was Max Fricke riding at Edinburgh. According to the visitor visa that they use, they are not allowed to ride in a public or private meeting even if they are not receiving payments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 At Foxhall there is invariably a statement made that " the meeting is now officially closed" Presumably any practice after that isnt affected as it would not be classed as part of the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 At Foxhall there is invariably a statement made that " the meeting is now officially closed" Presumably any practice after that isnt affected as it would not be classed as part of the meeting. Nope. The rider on a visitor visa is not allowed to ride a bike anyway. If a team had really wanted to try out a guy, without getting found out, they should do it in private, and not of course pass comments in programme notes on how good the rider was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 Nope. The rider on a visitor visa is not allowed to ride a bike anyway. If a team had really wanted to try out a guy, without getting found out, they should do it in private, and not of course pass comments in programme notes on how good the rider was. so you are saying the limitations would stop even a private practice /leisure ride.Seems rather draconian. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 No unauthorised rider can appear on any track at which even one paying spectator is still present -- 'closing the meeting' means nothing other than the meeting referee's offski. Imagine the financial implication stemming from the scenario of a bike going into the crowd and injuring paid-in spectators, and the rider had no right to be there? Promoters carry huge Employers Liability insurance of up to £10 million in respect of claims -- which would be totally invalidated by a non-legal rider appearing in any second-half. A 'closed door' practice is allowed, usually termed 'non-competitive training' but only if there is an ambulance, a driver and ambulance attendant present. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 18, 2015 Report Share Posted February 18, 2015 No unauthorised rider can appear on any track at which even one paying spectator is still present -- 'closing the meeting' means nothing other than the meeting referee's offski. Imagine the financial implication stemming from the scenario of a bike going into the crowd and injuring paid-in spectators, and the rider had no right to be there? Promoters carry huge Employers Liability insurance of up to £10 million in respect of claims -- which would be totally invalidated by a non-legal rider appearing in any second-half. A 'closed door' practice is allowed, usually termed 'non-competitive training' but only if there is an ambulance, a driver and ambulance attendant present. so a closed practice is possible - just not whilst spectators are still present. BTW I wouldnt want to see the crash that meant the bike ended up in the crowd at Foxhall - that would be some 'off'! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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