SCB Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 although looking how the averages fit it is actually Ritchie that has the place that may have gone to Adam. Ritchie doesn't need a work permit and no justification is needed for his place. But as Ritchie points out, Adam could get a team place if the Aussies don't get in. Well work permits (generally, not just in speedway) are only meant to be given out where there is no suitable EU person able and willing to do the job. So Manzares has a work permit but he shouldn't if Ellis is available. Now Ipswich might be able to argue that due to clashes he can't do the job I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Ritchie doesn't need a work permit and no justification is needed for his place. But as Ritchie points out, Adam could get a team place if the Aussies don't get in. Well work permits (generally, not just in speedway) are only meant to be given out where there is no suitable EU person able and willing to do the job. So Manzares has a work permit but he shouldn't if Ellis is available. Now Ipswich might be able to argue that due to clashes he can't do the job I guess.dont get me wrong I wanted Adam to have a place. My point was that Gino isnt a direct swap as he is 1.5 higher than Adam so it could be argued Adam couldnt do the job Gino is due for.Now if Ritchie didnt have a place he could argue that case as his average is much closer to Gino. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Pity someone with some common sense and understanding of the English language couldn't take the promoters places then the situation that the riders (and fans) find themselves in wouldn't have happened! Not as though they (the promoters) were not given any warning..... Not just Ipswich but I think its safe to tar all of the current promotions with the same brush! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Well done to both rohan and Cameron for winning in Australia. Can only be good for confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 What did Cam win Baldy? I know Tunners (sorry) won the Lemon farewell meeting but not seen anything on Heeps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 The king of pinjar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Good stuff from the boys and good confidence boosters! Any links to runners and riders point scorers etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Meeting at Pinjar in Perth. Field included Jake Allen Josh Bates Arthur Sissis MrBeerhut may have a few etra details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Yeah, he was the one that told me about it, so maybe he knows more. I think cam went unbeaten. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Well done to both rohan and Cameron for winning in Australia. Can only be good for confidence. Where did this info come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Where did this info come from? Come on get on with it give us the details Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 How did Arthur Sissy get on? The poor lad's had a mare in pre-season so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 (edited) Meeting at Pinjar in Perth. Field included Jake Allen Josh Bates Arthur Sissis MrBeerhut may have a few etra details May I? Thanks to some updates from the track, cheers Lewis Heat 1: Heeps, Ballantyne, Rutherford, Heys Heat 5: Heeps, Smith, Sissis, Gill Heat 9: Heeps, Bates, Russell, Williams Heat 13: Heeps, Allen, Gittus. (Jake Allen had won each of his 3 rides before that) Heat 17: Heeps, Winchester, Furfaro. (Real close between 1st and 2nd) Semi 1 : Heeps, Winchester, Sissis, Rutherford. Semi 2 : Awarded - Bates, Smith, Russell, Allen (Allen drops it coming out of turn 4 going into the last lap while leading comfortably, he's excluded and race awarded) Final : Heeps 1st, Bates 2nd, Winchester 3rd, Smith 4th Heat scores: Heeps 15, Allen 14, Bates 13, Winchester 12, Smith 9, Sissis 8, Rutherford 8, Russell 8 (semi qualifiers) Scoble 7, Williams 5, Gittus 5, Furfaro 4, Heys 3, Gill 2, Ballantyne 2 (withdrew, injured), Clemens DNR How did Arthur Sissy get on? The poor lad's had a mare in pre-season so far. Sissis 1,1,0,3.3 Fell 1st turn in the race he didn't score and got off the track. finished the heats with a win, but only 2 riders in the race! Didn't trouble 2nd in his semi final. Btw Smith is Andy Smith's son who hasn't been on a 500cc very long Edited January 31, 2015 by 2ndbendbeerhut 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Sissis 1,1,0,3.3 Fell 1st turn in the race he didn't score and got off the track. finished the heats with a win, but only 2 riders in the race! Didn't trouble 2nd in his semi final. I know for a fact Chris Louis watched him very closely at Foxhall last summer. I think Louis made his mind up there and then that it wasn't an option he was going to explore in great detail! No offence to the lad but he looked abysmal, couldn't turn the bike properly around the bends and was slow and constantly out of shape. Almost looked as though it was the first time he'd ever sat on a speedway bike let alone ridden one. Could all be a red herring of course and he could well turn out to be decent given time. I won't hold my breath though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Think a few Witches fans thought he would sign for the Witches and surprised that he went to Sheffield. Not had much racing on a 500cc so can only improve and with Sheffield being a bigger track it should suit him more. Certainly think he will struggle at the smaller ones, Pinjar is about 160m i believe, so at the moment glad we got Covatti rather than Sissis...... time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted January 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 I think Sissis won 3 under 16 titles, before giving the red bull series a go, so he can obviously ride a speedway bike, but a 500 bike is a different animal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Agree it's a different animal. There's been youth stars over the years that looked like they had the world at their feet, only to flop once they moved on to 500cc and disappeared. On the flip side there's been others who looked pretty ordinary at youth level who then thrived on 500cc and had good careers. Always dangerous to make predictions though before a competitive wheel has been turned as you can end up looking a right turnip. That's why I'll sit firmly on the fence and say Sissis could actually do very very well, or he might not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piston197 Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Would the Rutherford who scored 8 points, same as Sissis the Ex Newport( Mr chequered flag/cobra) Shelby Rutherford, ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 Well done to both rohan and Cameron for winning in Australia. Can only be good for confidence.What was the standard of the other riders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XTC38L Posted February 1, 2015 Report Share Posted February 1, 2015 What was the standard of the other riders?jake allen, josh bates, arthur sissis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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