Pob Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Quit or was asked given the choice ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Who is right who is wrong will we know probably not but it's the same in any job. If your deemed to not be doing your job/work to the standard which your management wants of course there are going to be repercussions it's the same in any line of work . If I spent the next so many weeks not reaching a standard which my manager wanted they there would be a case that my manager would dispense with my services. It happens all the time in any line of work , yes the person may feel a little a grieved by their mangers actions and say a few words but it's there managers choice . Changes are made new staff hired and work continues but if it continues to happen and results are still bad then it will be the turn of the management to maybe come under action against them . Hawkins has gone his results for this season were poor by his standard and the management has acted for the so called good of the team time to stop all this who is right and who is wrong and back the team . Welcome Ashley Morris good luck for the rest of the season. Only time will tell if the management has made the correct choice It's pretty easy for me, Hawkins was wrong. We all know his season got off to the worst start possible and from then on it's just not happened for him. All he had to say was that he was struggling and no longer enjoying it so he needs a break. That's all he needed to say then none of this debating would be necessary. He may well have had issues with Hilton, but that should have been kept in house and he was out of order to publically criticise the fella and tell all and sundry that we won't be successful purely because of his management style. Unnecessary. That's my last word on the subject so I'll bow out of this one now! Welcome to Ashley Morris good luck lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Ipswich management didn't act. Hawkins quit. Quit or was asked given the choice ? Don't think we'll know the answer to this one. From reading the article it came to a head at Glasgow and the decision was "mutual". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Neither Richie or Hilton come out of this with much credit imo. Petty squabbling on local radio is not clever, and it aint funny... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siggytastic Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I was always told not to burn your bridges. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Neither Richie or Hilton come out of this with much credit imo. Petty squabbling on local radio is not clever, and it aint funny... I personally thought Hilton did come out with credit. I didn't hear any petty squabbling from his side, I thought he was pretty calm and collected although obviously hurt by what Hawkins had to say. He even praised Hawkins for helping the team and changing tyres for team mates up at Glasgow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Witch Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 So, Hawkins is my favourite and I'm biased? Guilty as charged. I've been a fan for years and nothing has changed. No I didn't hear the interview (any links to it?) but from what I've been told Phil was given the chance to respond to what Ritchie said, but not the other way round. Finally, believe it or not I've not a problem with Phil. I don't know the bloke. He's made a few dodgy decisions but that doesn't make me dislike him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 Changing the subject, did I read on here somewhere that Heeps was making his comeback next week or did I dream that? That would be a boost getting him back in the side and back to a seven man team again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluPanther Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I personally thought Hilton did come out with credit. I didn't hear any petty squabbling from his side, I thought he was pretty calm and collected although obviously hurt by what Hawkins had to say. He even praised Hawkins for helping the team and changing tyres for team mates up at Glasgow. Maybe a lot of what Richie said was true. Maybe Hilton was covering his back with a preconceived response. Maybe Fireman and Coppers don't get on. Maybe we will never know.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 The link to the interviews can be found here: Starts at just after 35:40 courtesy of BBC Radio Suffolk http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02swrqt#auto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 The link to the interviews can be found here: Starts at just after 35:40 courtesy of BBC Radio Suffolk http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02swrqt#auto What's your opinion on it presenter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 The link to the interviews can be found here: Starts at just after 35:40 courtesy of BBC Radio Suffolk http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02swrqt#auto Well there goes another 3 pages worth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghosty Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I have been involved with Speedway for a long time & consider that the teams Chris Louis has put together since their drop back to the premier league have been title favourites year on year. Just why they don't show their promise/potential is a mystery to me as well as Chris Louis & many others I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Presenter Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 What's your opinion on it presenter I've posted a link to the interviews, as some had expressed an interest in listening to them (me included, as I missed the original broadcast). Other than that, I would rather not make any comment. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I've posted a link to the interviews, as some had expressed an interest in listening to them (me included, as I missed the original broadcast). Other than that, I would rather not make any comment. Thank you Didn't think so and perfectly understandable too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted June 23, 2015 Report Share Posted June 23, 2015 I've supported ipswich for a few years now ( obviously ) and although i haven't followed this particular incident too closely, I take anything said in public ( by either riders or management ) with the biggest pinch of salt imaginable. Riders have ups and downs and sometimes the different between success and giving up can be measured in millimetres . What's said in public and what goes on behind the scenes are two completely different things. debate is a good thing but experience tells me that whats on here is rarely the full picture. I hope you guys turn it around for the rest of the season. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 I liked Jonnys post above mostly for the last line. I think thats what we all want. Also agree with the general sentiment albeit that these 2 conversations were rather more candid than most sporting interviews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan R Horne Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 (edited) Well this is all very sad and doing the Witches and speedway no good at all. I cannot remember these confrontations happening at Ipswich for many a moon. In my opinion at the start of the season I thought Hawkins should not have been included in the side because he was not good enough and quite evident sometimes on poor equipment. I was quite surprised he was included in the team and so its now proved but to late to save our season. I do not know Hilton so cannot say much about his ability to select the right riders at the right time but seem to have done ok. Rohan Tungate is an enigma, you never know which Rohan is going to turn up. The one that tries his heart out, or the one that seems uninterested. I feel that a great deal lies in his court for our poor season and other seasons come to that. We need a good back-up for Danny in heats 13 and 15 and we don't get it very often so therefore there lies a lot of our problems together with a great deal of poor starts to the meetings. Edited June 24, 2015 by Alan R Horne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Changing the subject a little now that the dust has hopefully settled from the past coupe of days any Witches making the trip to Cardiff next weekend for the GP ? Staying in Portishead for the weekend so Cardiff on the Sat for the GP , still in two minds to attend the Premier Pairs at Somerset on the friday night . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted June 24, 2015 Report Share Posted June 24, 2015 Confirmed in the Ipswich Star today that Heeps is due to make his return next Thursday along with Morris making his debut against his former club. Now we're back to a seven man team hopefully now things can settle down and we can make a charge for those play offs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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