TheScotsman Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Sounds a fair comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I think we should be looking at a new asset for the future not Lanham who's best is behind him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Countershaftcounter Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 At the moment it doesn't look like Ellis has a team place anywhere. His average is too high to ride NL ( IMHO a backward step) This kid represented GB in the U21's last year and at the moment only has FTR income next season. If the top boys can't make it pay, how are young Brits supposed to advance in the sport when they're in this kind of position. When it came to the business end of the season last year he stepped up to the plate and would have been one of my nailed on choices for this years team. If he gives up and is lost to the sport it would be a shame. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 1000 percent agree. Thing is, if Louis comes up trumps with a new 5 pointer, some of the fans would soon have forgot about Ellis. It seems like because lakeside have picked Adam it clashes with many premier league tracks on a Friday, Adams choices really do seem limited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) At the moment it doesn't look like Ellis has a team place anywhere. But it that the fault of Ipswich as Lakeside own his contract and have first call on him. PL places should be sorted first and then the draft fitted in around that, Birks was signed up to Sheffield first so couldn't go back to Swindon. Also seems case with Lambert at Leicester, now cannot sign for his PL club due to clash of race nights! Seems Ellis is stuck between a rock and a hard place through no real fault of his own. Putting him in the "B" grade has done him no favours aswell. Edited November 28, 2014 by 2ndbendbeerhut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZODIAK Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I think we should be looking at a new asset for the future not Lanham who's best is behind him. You should be without doubt, but I wouldn't bet against it being Lanham. Very uninspiring signing if it is. Maybe the fact that Lanham is currently on holiday in Tenerife is the reason the team isn't complete, and it will be completed on his return? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) You should be without doubt, but I wouldn't bet against it being Lanham. Very uninspiring signing if it is. Maybe the fact that Lanham is currently on holiday in Tenerife is the reason the team isn't complete, and it will be completed on his return? I hope you're very wrong about that! No offence to Lanham he seems like a great lad and a top professional, but he's 37 and been on the slide for a good few years now. Would be an awful signing. Chris Louis has again been making all the noises in the paper about building for a return to the EL. If he wants to do that then he needs to be signing another Manzares/Heeps/Tungate and put another brick in the wall, not sign a rider at the twilight of his career. Edited November 28, 2014 by Bloomy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) I doubt it will be lanham, also, who will the 3 pointer be? Anyone have any preferences? Edited November 28, 2014 by baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 I doubt it will be lanham, Why? I think it's a real possibility to be honest and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 A degree of naivety perhaps ... signing for Lakeside out of loyalty to the people wh o brought him into the sport has definitely left him with fewer choices, and a "home" track he has struggled to get used to. A move within the EL would have been beneficial for all sorts of reasons - it would be interesting to know if he had any options, or if Lakeside insisted because he's their asset (in the loose speedway terms) Lakeside chose Adam from the draft, I don't think he would have ridden there if it was his choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Who the 3 pointer would be if it is a new 5 pointer is just as important. Very difficult to carry a very low scoring No7. When you look at an option of say Ellis/Jacobs you would expect a solid contribution from both. With a makeweight No 7 the other newcomer has to be capable of getting all those on his own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Why? I think it's a real possibility to be honest and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest Yes it's a possibility, but surely most of us think Louis has already made a mistake by not selecting Adam, would Louis really be stupid enough to sign lanham also? Maybe stupid isn't the correct word, but surely signing lanham wouldn't drum up any extra crowd, but maybe a knew rider would? Who the 3 pointer would be if it is a new 5 pointer is just as important. Very difficult to carry a very low scoring No7. When you look at an option of say Ellis/Jacobs you would expect a solid contribution from both. With a makeweight No 7 the other newcomer has to be capable of getting all those on his own. Correct, having a 3 pointer only scoring 000 or 100 really means the 5 pointer if there is to be one must score 7 and 8 to be just as good as 2 4 pointers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 Yes it's a possibility, but surely most of us think Louis has already made a mistake by not selecting Adam, would Louis really be stupid enough to sign lanham also? Maybe stupid isn't the correct word, but surely signing lanham wouldn't drum up any extra crowd, but maybe a knew rider would? An exciting looking newcomer on a 5.00 would certainly help the season ticket sales pitch by the club that is coming any day now, not sure a bottom end of Hawkins, Lanham and a weak looking 3 pointer would see the season ticket hotline jammed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Why? I think it's a real possibility to be honest and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightestAlso wasn't it you the other day saying you wouldn't be happy if a young British rider with improvement in him is dropped for the likes of Hawkins or lanham? Something like that anyway. I know i wouldn't be happy, but at the end of the day it's down to me to show my disproval by not going Edited November 28, 2014 by baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Also wasn't it you the other day saying you wouldn't be happy if a young British rider with improvement in him is dropped for the likes of Hawkins or lanham? Something like that anyway. Aye T'was me. Ellis, Lanham and Hawkins have similar averages with Ellis the lowest of the three, so any of them could be fitted in. If Lanham and Hawkins are in the team and Ellis we know isn't, then that wouldn't send out the right signals. Maybe there's more to Ellis' exclusion than meets the eye as none of us really know the ins and outs of what's going on. Perhaps Louis just doesn't want too many double uppers after riders missing too many meetings this season who knows. Edited November 28, 2014 by CardinalSin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 (edited) Don't think greenwood has signed for anyone yet, or maybe Louis would use someone like halsey or grieves Edited November 28, 2014 by baldyman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolt Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 What would Robert Lambert's avg be if he done PL? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted November 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 It's in the sevens I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 King isn't going to Lakeside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted November 28, 2014 Report Share Posted November 28, 2014 A few are predicting Danny to be at Coventry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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