Baldyman Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 If riders don't have motivation to do their best in a final of a competition and wouldn't feel loved because of what I am saying on here, then they need to find themselves a new job, and it would also explain why some riders don't have the mental ability to make it to the top of their chosen profession. Who cares who we get next year.........(let this year finish first). Can't see it will be EL PL and NL as this year so?? Anyhow it will be the ones that 1. Fit into the budget 2. Fit into the team average. 3. Want to ride for the Witches. I care. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 If riders don't have motivation to do their best in a final of a competition and wouldn't feel loved because of what I am saying on here, then they need to find themselves a new job, and it would also explain why some riders don't have the mental ability to make it to the top of their chosen profession. I care. And thats the problem, you care more than the people that should......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I thought both had ridden for big tracks in the past? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 (edited) . Edited October 16, 2014 by Jonny the spud 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboy cookie returns? Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 What direction shall they go after tonight's farce! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny the spud Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Up the M1 to scotland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2ndbendbeerhut Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Only 3 riders come out with any credit after tonight: Cameron Heeps Ritchie Hawkins Adam Ellis These were the Witches ONLY heat winners and goes to show how poor the team is against quality riders! Also doesn't help that the team have not ridden at Foxhal for 2 weeks! Up the M1 to scotland Wouldn't bother tbh! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me2 Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Up the M1 to scotland Young Ellis is welcome up here any time. A real pleasure to watch, even if he is the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 16, 2014 Report Share Posted October 16, 2014 Straight after tonight is possibly not the best time to make any judgement about 2015. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Super Blue Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Straight after tonight is possibly not the best time to make any judgement about 2015. Perhaps not , but now our season is effectively over maybe a little speculation won't be greeted with the disdain about dumping riders who still have a trophy to try and win . After watching the defeat against Edinburgh last night though this thread could well take some interesting twists and turns as far as opinions are concerned on who we should retain next year . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Perhaps not , but now our season is effectively over maybe a little speculation won't be greeted with the disdain about dumping riders who still have a trophy to try and win . After watching the defeat against Edinburgh last night though this thread could well take some interesting twists and turns as far as opinions are concerned on who we should retain next year . I think the gloves wiil off! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dabbsjoe Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 How has Manzares done this year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardinalSin Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 How has Manzares done this year ?Excellent debut season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Having 'the right average' is the name of the game for a speedway rider so Rohan and Morten must be under pressure for their place even without the doubts of many as to their racing abilities. Rohan you could argue can have done little more improving by a point each year and earning the No 1 slot but has failed to convince at crucial times and of course their was 'motivationgate' this year.Any room for improvement 50/50 Morten also has had his best year and at times looked set to produce a purple season rather than just a purple patch within it. Unfotunately the memory will be the reversion to the 'old Morten' in the last few weeks just when wedodnt need it. A big shame as overall he has been great value. Any room for improvement - 50/50 Looking at the rest. Richie W - will been classed as a disappointment but has shown enough for me to justify why he is touted for a good future. A tough year but one that if he learns and moves on from will have been a worthwhile experience in the long run. Any room for improvement 100% yes. Cam - the biggest down side of 2014. Suffered much more with his wrist injury early on than was ever really disclosed but still far below where he shouldve been even given that. Showed in the 2nd half of the season just why he is popular with the fans with some breathtaking passes and scores much in line with expectations. Any room for improvement 100% yes. Gino - the star of 2014. Excellent at home and competitive away for a debut season. Such a shame that the season ended with man and machine in far from tip top shape. A vibrant character that can help a promotion attract and keep new fans IMO. Any room for improvement 100% yes Ritchie H - a solid season on and off track. Proved to be good captain material which also semed to have a positive effect on him. Hard charger who always gives it everthing. The type of rider that is the backbone of the PL. Any room for improvement 50/50 Adam - didnt make the progress that was hoped for but certainly did make progress. Came through a real tough patch in the middle of the season to show the talent is definitely there. Capable of being next years Stevie Worrall. Any room for improvement 100% Im as disappointed as anyone with just missing out again but this team was a bloody good team. Comfotably the 3rd best in the league which is better than 10 others! As for 2015 I think we will see the core of the side retained and depends on the averages as to who will fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Maybe we should go along the lines of:- Sam Masters 8.22 Cam Heeps 5.38 Justin Sedgmen 7.27 Gino Manzares 6.02 Richie Worrall 7.32 Ritchie Hawkins 5.27 James Sarjeant 3.00 42.48 or Danny King 8.84 Cam Heeps 5.38 Taylor Poole 6.05 Gino Manzares 6.02 Richie Worrall 7.32 Adam Ellis 4.67 Nico Covatti 4.21 42.49 Alternatively bring in some fresh blood like Max Ruml, Michael Haertel or a young Aussie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Well you have to shed a couple of points from this season's averages to get down to the points limit, unless that limit changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bash Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Can't see the points limit changing but you are going to have to shed a couple of big average riders to get below limit. I think everyone will be looking for the 2015 Steve Worrall, starting on a 3 and finishing over 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 Somerset even more so!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baldyman Posted October 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 And even after shedding riders, both Edinburgh and Somerset will still have title challenging teams next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted October 17, 2014 Report Share Posted October 17, 2014 The keys are 1) sign improvers 2) don't sign doublers unless you have the priority over fixtures. Ippo actually didn't have a bad team this season - just lacked a big hitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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