R-d-f Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Let's just rewind to Monday night for a moment - it was clearly stated that the meeting would have gone ahead had it not been for the hole on turn 1 Therefore, the meeting WAS NOT POSTPONED BECAUSE OF A WATERLOGGED TRACK! If Poole have admitted that the hole was their own fault, then obviously they are responsible for the meeting having to be called off Perhaps, therefore, given those circumstances, they should have forfeited the semi-final, allowing the final to go ahead, weather permitting, as scheduled Only Poole are responsible for this - no-one or nothing else is This is just getting ridiculous, only quoting this post but there are multiple similar ones. It has rained very heavy in this area since Sunday, the track was soaked down to its base and very soft. lots of work went on to correct this and improve with a view to getting the race meeting on, including blading the track. The track was very soft in places and on the bend it tore up when it was trying to be stripped back. This was caused by the weather and track staff having a go to produce a rideable track, it is very disingenuous to the hard working staff to throw lots of accusations about. There are only one set of covers, as a consequence only one match went ahead, if the covers went to Poole instead of Swindon would there be this great conspiracy theory against Swindon, it is also pure conjecture that the covers would have saved the Poole match, but it might have been enough. With regards to Thursday it was absolutely impossible to stage a match after all the torrential rain on the Thursday and days leading up to it, the last heavy cloudburst was approx 7pm Edited October 10, 2014 by R-d-f 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Let's just rewind to Monday night for a moment - it was clearly stated that the meeting would have gone ahead had it not been for the hole on turn 1 Therefore, the meeting WAS NOT POSTPONED BECAUSE OF A WATERLOGGED TRACK! If Poole have admitted that the hole was their own fault, then obviously they are responsible for the meeting having to be called off Perhaps, therefore, given those circumstances, they should have forfeited the semi-final, allowing the final to go ahead, weather permitting, as scheduled Only Poole are responsible for this - no-one or nothing else is Brilliant Explanation: Even all those die-hard Poole fans should be able to comprehend that. All this reasoning of waterlogged track is just an excuse to move the blame................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Let's just rewind to Monday night for a moment - it was clearly stated that the meeting would have gone ahead had it not been for the hole on turn 1 Therefore, the meeting WAS NOT POSTPONED BECAUSE OF A WATERLOGGED TRACK! If Poole have admitted that the hole was their own fault, then obviously they are responsible for the meeting having to be called off Perhaps, therefore, given those circumstances, they should have forfeited the semi-final, allowing the final to go ahead, weather permitting, as scheduled Only Poole are responsible for this - no-one or nothing else is So we forfeit everything because of one persons mistake!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 This is just getting ridiculous, only quoting this post but there are multiple similar ones. It has rained very heavy in this area since Sunday, the track was soaked down to its base and very soft. lots of work went on to correct this and improve with a view to getting the race meeting on, including blading the track. The track was very soft in places and on the bend it tore up when it was trying to be stripped back. This was caused by the weather and track staff having a go to produce a rideable track, it is very disingenuous to the hard working staff to throw lots of accusations about. There are only one set of covers, as a consequence only one match went ahead, if the covers went to Poole instead of Swindon would there be this great conspiracy theory against Swindon, it is also pure conjecture that the covers would have saved the Poole match, but it might have been enough. With regards to Thursday it was absolutely impossible to stage a match after all the torrential rain on the Thursday and days leading up to it, the last heavy cloudburst was approx 7pm finally an insight into the problems, its causes and reasons... Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 So we forfeit everything because of one persons mistake!! So if Middlo picks the wrong riders for a last heat decider is that a mistake? Does that count? If a rider sets his bike up incorrectly, is that a mistake? Yes, when you make mistakes you lose out. Unless you're Poole it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 So we forfeit everything because of one persons mistake who with others work tirelessly to get the track in a raceable condition. So if Middlo picks the wrong riders for a last heat decider is that a mistake? Does that count? If a rider sets his bike up incorrectly, is that a mistake? Yes, when you make mistakes you lose out. Unless you're Poole it seems. We are all human and humans make mistakes but if as in this case we can re-run the meeting in order to get a acceptable outcome for all concerned surely that is the best solution. If Poole had not won the league you would be saying that Kings Lynn should go straight in to the final as league winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Smith Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 A couple more EDP columns to read http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-stars/bspa_can_t_afford_for_speedway_fans_enthusiasm_to_be_dampened_1_3801567?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-stars/buster_chapman_hits_out_at_second_postponement_of_king_s_lynn_stars_vital_play_off_clash_at_poole_1_3801534 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 So get ya flipping drainage sorted Poole, spend some of that money you get in from being the best supported team in the country to sort the most important asset to your club, the track! You had the track relaid and did nothing about drainage, come on!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Your correct drainage has always been an issue at Poole since i can remember, i really don't know why but it definately needs sorting although buster saying if it had rained all day he would have got it sorted by 7.30 doesn't wash(pardon the pun) as his track didn't start until 8.30 and it had stopped when i got there at 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
semion Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Buster would have given it a damn good go. I have turned up at Saddlebow thinking why has this meeting not been called off, and been quite angry that my time, fuel and admission had been wasted. Only to find an hour or so later Buster has pulled it round, ripped the top off and made a track, although not perfect, acceptable to ride on. Forever if, as you say this problem has been a long standing one, then surely the track staff knew full well they had no hope of pulling it around why Didnt Matt Ford stand up and call it off long before riders and fans had travelled ? What excuse could he have for wasting everybodys time and money ? Edited October 10, 2014 by semion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Turner Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 What a load of utter drivel as usual. Poole are not to blame for this and certainly shouldn't forfeit the meeting. The track on Monday was in a dire condition due to the rain. Even if there was not a hole in the track, it would still of been rain soaked joke of a meeting, with no racing just riders struggling to stay on the bike. Anybody who think's thats fair or entertaining racing is clearly deluded and clearly can't see why riders don't want to waste time with British speedway. Poole did not put a hole in their track, don't be so ridiculous. The majority of British tracks are neglected and not taken care of properly. This isn't just Poole so stop kidding yourselves. For whatever reason the track had a big rut in the first corner and they couldn't fix it enough to get riding. It was raining all day on Monday, it wasn't like they had much opportunity to get it fixed. I hope Poole wipe the floor with King's Lynn and I'll be cheering at the top of my voice when we beat Coventry in the final. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 So get ya flipping drainage sorted Poole, spend some of that money you get in from being the best supported team in the country to sort the most important asset to your club, the track! You had the track relaid and did nothing about drainage, come on!!! Nothing to do with the Speedway side mate. Its down to the Stadium. We are all human and humans make mistakes but if as in this case we can re-run the meeting in order to get a acceptable outcome for all concerned surely that is the best solution. If Poole had not won the league you would be saying that Kings Lynn should go straight in to the final as league winners. Nah, SCB doesn't make any mistakes. He's not Human.. Not bad...55 pages on this thread and we haven't even had the meeting yet. Must be some kind of record! Yeh, we like setting records at Poole. We've been very good at it in the last 15 years actually.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandonbee48 Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 A couple more EDP columns to read http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-stars/bspa_can_t_afford_for_speedway_fans_enthusiasm_to_be_dampened_1_3801567?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-stars/buster_chapman_hits_out_at_second_postponement_of_king_s_lynn_stars_vital_play_off_clash_at_poole_1_3801534 Thanks for these. Pretty damning i'd have to say. Regards. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 (edited) Nothing to do with the Speedway side mate. Its down to the Stadium. Swindon have the same problem, the dog people own the stadium and some the changes re drainage between the dog track and speedway track are not able to be done. Hopefully the new stadium will resolve most of the drainage problems that we have had in the past. Edited October 10, 2014 by A ORLOV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Nah, SCB doesn't make any mistakes. He's not Human.. We all make mistakes. But we pay for them. Or fix them ASAP. If my mistakes at work put people out the company I work for pays for it. I then get at least a bollocking from my boss, maybe even my P45. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 We all make mistakes. But we pay for them. Or fix them ASAP. If my mistakes at work put people out the company I work for pays for it. I then get at least a bollocking from my boss, maybe even my P45. Why haven't you had your p45 yet then!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Has the Poole track got the best base possible, ask Buster? Surely the dogs wouldn't mind if a bloody great hole was dug in your centre green over winter for drainage and the turf put back on, nobody would know it had been done come the start of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pointsmeanplayoffs Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 A couple more EDP columns to read http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-stars/bspa_can_t_afford_for_speedway_fans_enthusiasm_to_be_dampened_1_3801567?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed http://www.edp24.co.uk/sport/kings-lynn-stars/buster_chapman_hits_out_at_second_postponement_of_king_s_lynn_stars_vital_play_off_clash_at_poole_1_3801534 The first article hits the nail on the head there. The season should have started sooner with there being more fixtures this season but hey ho nothing can be done now. I'd imagine in 2015 there will be less fixtures (as less teams) and with the Aussie SGP set for Oct, the EL season will have to finish much earlier, perhaps even in Sept? As for the this season, we'll get Poole out the way and then what about a play-off final double header on the following weekend? Lynn and Brandon are not THAT far away - midday start for first leg, then an 8pm start for the return? Glorious! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dj350z Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Why haven't you had your p45 yet then!! SCB is moving onto bugger and better things!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted October 10, 2014 Report Share Posted October 10, 2014 Let's just rewind to Monday night for a moment - it was clearly stated that the meeting would have gone ahead had it not been for the hole on turn 1 Therefore, the meeting WAS NOT POSTPONED BECAUSE OF A WATERLOGGED TRACK! If Poole have admitted that the hole was their own fault, then obviously they are responsible for the meeting having to be called off Perhaps, therefore, given those circumstances, they should have forfeited the semi-final, allowing the final to go ahead, weather permitting, as scheduled Only Poole are responsible for this - no-one or nothing else is I think the valuable point you are missing which I said in my last point was that even had the hole not been there it would have rained later and thw match would still be a void. Does that make it still Pooles fault? Irrespectively, if this is to happen again to any two teams, I would say it goes on the first result which may sound harsh on the second team buyt they had the chance to win In the first leg. If neither team could host it should come back to the top of the table. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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