Starman2006 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 maybe you should have covered it? simple really isnt it Maybe you should find the Volunteers, and the covers. Not that simple really.. Look at the state of Swindons track. You ask Rosco the same question.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racers and royals Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Maybe you should find the Volunteers, and the covers. Not that simple really.. Look at the state of Swindons track. You ask Rosco the same question.. A personal opinion-but I think the BAGS afternoon greyhound meeting on Monday at Swindon was a big factor in how the track was-probably 6.30pm before they could get on the track. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 As proved by Swindon, the covers that are being used isn't the whole solution, in my opinion they need to breathe like cricket covers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A ORLOV Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 A personal opinion-but I think the BAGS afternoon greyhound meeting on Monday at Swindon was a big factor in how the track was-probably 6.30pm before they could get on the track. Agree and this is part of the argument against all tracks racing on a monday. It rained until about late morning then there were a few light showers till about 2. During the breaks in the dog racing the covers were removed but I do not think any work could take place with machinery until 6.30ish, which did not give the uncovered track time to be worked so that the wet bits dried out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 maybe you should have covered it? simple really isnt it Covers are not always the answer.............the meeting at Swindon proved that.............see previous posts about the amount of rain in the area yesterday...........even with covers the odds are that it would not have been rideable............. Â It should have been called off earlier in the day is my honest opinion............but then again who am I to argue with the anti Poole brigade on here...........its getting as bad as a certain Facebook page........... Â RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g13webb Posted October 7, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Goodness me there are some uninformed posts on here in the last few pages - mainly from non-Poole fans and those that weren't anywhere near Wimborne Road last night!!  Having spent a fair amount of time at the track yesterday, the track staff did an incredible job once it stopped raining from around 1.15pm!! In bright sunshine and a strong wind they got the track into a raceable condition but all the work was wrecked by an unexpected and un-forecasted torrential rain downpour for around 10-15 minutes at approx. 4pm.  After that downpour the decision was made to blade off the top surface - a decision made at most tracks in similar circumstances - unfortunately the blade cut into the base on the first turn and 'gouged out' a hole or trough of approx. 5ft in length which was right on the racing line and went down at least 6 inches - maybe more - in depth. It was attempted to fill it by just using the top surface material and packing it down - but it wasn't enough!  This was the only issue the riders had on the track walk - as was reported on Sky - as the rest of the track was and looked raceable. Incidentally the senior meeting co-ordinator Ronnie Allan, was very keen to get the meeting on - unlike the meeting referee Christina Turnbull!!  OK, blame Poole as it was their track - blame the Poole tractor driver as he was controlling the blading - but don't blame the Poole riders or management, it wasn't solely their decision to call the meeting off!! All riders were very vocal - some more than others from either side - about NOT riding, once again as Rory Schlein and Middlo explained in interview.  As for the delay in announcing the rearranged date of Thursday, I do feel for many of the crowd but its not just a case of checking riders availability. Thursday is Poole's official 'rain-off' day, but a number of things need to be checked/confirmed before an announcement can be made - Stadium staffing; trackstaff availability; Sky availability; how long it might take for a proper repair of the 'hole', etc etc  Thursday is forecast to be a better weather day - but not without a lot of rain still to come beforehand on Tuesday/Wednesday - not something that will lend itself to the use of track covers. And we know plastic sheeting or tarpaulins don't work either - although imo it might be worth trying it over the start line as we don't want what Swindon had to cope with!!  If what you say is true, what was a Blind/ Drunk person doing in charge of a Blade. Surely to do that much damage he must have been deliberate or stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Maybe you should find the Volunteers, and the covers. Not that simple really.. Look at the state of Swindons track. You ask Rosco the same question.. Â Â Rosco got the meeting on, Poole didn't. They got covers and volunteers. I take it Poole had neither. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exocet Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Sky are showing this meeting. Â Saves me from watching England Oh your poor girlfiend will be round my house again with THJ and MJJ,car keys in the fruitbowl.Still she will be happy enough 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob240866 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Maybe you should find the Volunteers, and the covers. Not that simple really.. Look at the state of Swindons track. You ask Rosco the same question.. total rubbish. theres plenty of blue rinsers in dorset with nothing else to do, and by the way the track at swindon didnt stop coventry did it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Lady Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 According to Buster, Poole didn't even have any fresh shale to do any remedial work. He wasn't impressed according to the EDP. Have to say for the self proclaimed "best club in the country" it's farcical not to have the ingredients to give professional riders a safe track to ride on. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Our track prep was not, crap. Had it not pissed down at 4 pm we would have been on. The track was totally flooded after the night befores rain, and it rained all morning untill 1 pm. Then, you still can't touch the track. Tell me what would you do ? wrong your track prep was crap. Â Swindon had covers and people prepared to work on the track. Poole had neither. Hardly a big club mentality. Â They bladed the circuit , which done at any other track would have guaranteed the meeting going ahead. The guy on the blade needs the sack. If Poole are supposed to be the bench mark for the elite league then that was a shambles in track prep 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrs Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 I feel sorry for the KL supporters, not only because of the wasted travel costs, but also because I believe that last night they would have comfortably turned over Poole and then gone on to meet Cov. Â No doubt the Poole team on Thursday will bear no resemblance to last nights team. To be honest I actually feel that Poole quite unashamedly and intentionally did nothing to counteract the effects of the forecast weather and were banking on a postponement. Â I feel sorry for the loads of genuine Poole supporters for the embarrassment caused by their promotion and management yesterday 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catalan Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 I feel sorry for the KL supporters, not only because of the wasted travel costs, but also because I believe that last night they would have comfortably turned over Poole and then gone on to meet Cov.No doubt the Poole team on Thursday will bear no resemblance to last nights team. To be honest I actually feel that Poole quite unashamedly and intentionally did nothing to counteract the effects of the forecast weather and were banking on a postponement.I feel sorry for the loads of genuine Poole supporters for the embarrassment caused by their promotion and management yesterday  Do you want to tell the track curators that as they worked bloody hard to get the meeting on, the main antagonists were from KL although all the riders were happy with a postponement.  I know I'm wasting my breath but no member of the Poole management put any pressure on the meeting being postponed.   I am that fed up with all the conspiracies that my time has come to ditch this forum and leave all the idiots and Poole haters to bitch among themselves.  So cheerio was nice knowing the genuine fans. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedwaysliders Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 The Poole track was raceable,straights were fine,bends 3 and 4 were fine,the meeting COULD have gone ahead with a diff set of riders standing there in my opion.If this was a premier league match,there would have been no problem,but the simple fact is the pamperded elite league stars didnt want to try,Ive seen bigger ruts loads of times this season,ok it was on the first bend,But come thursday they are going to have the same problem to deal with,and we will see what happens next!!! I should add im a neutral fan in all this and we went down to Poole to have a good day out,which we were having up until start time!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poole Quay 7 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Do you want to tell the track curators that as they worked bloody hard to get the meeting on, the main antagonists were from KL although all the riders were happy with a postponement. Â I know I'm wasting my breath but no member of the Poole management put any pressure on the meeting being postponed. Â Â I am that fed up with all the conspiracies that my time has come to ditch this forum and leave all the idiots and Poole haters to bitch among themselves. Â So cheerio was nice knowing the genuine fans. Â Â It's a shame you feel like that but nevertheless, fully understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherborne Green Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 wrong your track prep was crap.  Swindon had covers and people prepared to work on the track. Poole had neither. Hardly a big club mentality.  They bladed the circuit , which done at any other track would have guaranteed the meeting going ahead. The guy on the blade needs the sack. If Poole are supposed to be the bench mark for the elite league then that was a shambles in track prep what makes you an expert? You only seem to abuse Poole and their management. I accept they are not perfect.  No team or their management are perfect.  I thought you would have been concerned more of Somerset v Ipswich on Friday! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) The Poole track was raceable,straights were fine,bends 3 and 4 were fine,the meeting COULD have gone ahead with a diff set of riders standing there in my opion.If this was a premier league match,there would have been no problem,but the simple fact is the pamperded elite league stars didnt want to try,Ive seen bigger ruts loads of times this season,ok it was on the first bend,But come thursday they are going to have the same problem to deal with,and we will see what happens next!!! I should add im a neutral fan in all this and we went down to Poole to have a good day out,which we were having up until start time!!! No mate, sorry it was far from Raceable, i understand where you are coming from, but rider saftey is paramount, so if 99% of the riders say no, they say no for a reason. As i said in another post, it chucked it down all the previous night, and didn't stop untill 1.30 the following day. Then appart from sweeping the lakes off the track there is still nothing you can do untill the track drys a bit. Sadly time was not on the curators hands. Up untill the downpour at 4pm the track wasn't to bad, 4-5 bags of Sawdust and you was in business. but the downpour caught everybody out, it wasn't forcast. Taking the slop off the top and then putting Sawdust down on wet dirt with the temperature dropping like a stone wouldn't have helped, and riders would have been sliding everywhere other than where they wanted to go which could have caused serious injury. You have to remember riders are riding these bikes with no brakes and the bikes are not light, especially if they hit you, ask any rider.. Every effort will be made to get Thursdays meeting on, but we are governed by the Greyhounds and therefore have limited access to the track, and as you know, this time of year you are very much weather dependant. Everybody in the stadium was very dissapointed that the meeting didn't go ahead believe me. And before anybody jumps on the poole bashing bandwagon, ask Rosco the question, were they right to put covers down, what was the racing like, and what was the result?, which unless they had an Army of people would have taken them hours. 2 yr ago, we tried the same thing with the same covers, and it took us 5 1/2 hours to put them down, and 5 to take them up in the pouring rain. That was with 8 people. Swindons track is a dam cite bigger than ours. Sadly people havn't got the time, or don't want to Volunteer so covers are a none starter. Im sure every poole fan will feel for you, but do come along again even if you can't make Thursday, its a great place to be. wrong your track prep was crap. Â Swindon had covers and people prepared to work on the track. Poole had neither. Hardly a big club mentality. Â They bladed the circuit , which done at any other track would have guaranteed the meeting going ahead. The guy on the blade needs the sack. If Poole are supposed to be the bench mark for the elite league then that was a shambles in track prep As i said, ask Rocso if it was the right decision. You are utterly clueless pal, you have no idea what our track was like, and you have no idea about Track prep, so stop talking about something you clearly know nothing about. you are just a Troll, go back to your own league. You are not liked on this forum, and you are not what speedway needs at this time.. Bye Bye. Edited October 7, 2014 by Starman2006 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pirate Baz Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Â Not at all, just commenting on what we ALL heard and SAW watching it on SKY. Your comment that some weren't at Wimbourne to even be able to make a comment is pretty flawed don't you think? In fact those that were watching on SKY had probably better insight and information as too what was actually happening than those in the stadium! What a naive point of view. You see what Sky want (and allow) you to see and hear. Â Those in the stadium at Wimborne Road could see the work being carried out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Buster knows what your track is like and he was quite disappointed with the way Poole went about preparing the track! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starman2006 Posted October 7, 2014 Report Share Posted October 7, 2014 Buster knows what your track is like and he was quite disappointed with the way Poole went about preparing the track! Was Buster their from midday? No, he wasn't, so he had no bering or idea on what the conditions were like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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