Workington 2015

[Arson fire]

Is this named after Screeny and his winter claims

[Django]

I understand Worky have issued a statement re the Holder assessed average of 5 saying it should be 7.

Isnt part of the proposal that any visa is subject to the rider attaining their assessed average within 2 seasons to be able to renew?

Mason Campton - has he done that?

 

As I understand it Mason got a 2 year visa at the start of 2014 meaning he would have to hit his 5 average when it was up for renewal ie the end of 2015

[Taylorj]

Every year Workington build decent team but fail to perform.This year they have build a shocking team so at least the fans won't be left disapointed by a team that promised so much.

Oh SCB, and you really think we care what your thoughts are Jog onto another teams thread who might actually give a poo about the garbage you post

[SCB]

Oh SCB, and you really think we care what your thoughts are Jog onto another teams thread who might actually give a poo about the garbage you post

It's a discussion forum, for discussion and opinion. I am using it in the correct way, it's you who doesn't seem to grasp the basic concept.

[jenga]

just remember that when i start trolling around other forums and dont poo poo me.

[Marksman]

Every year Workington build decent team but fail to perform.This year they have build a shocking team so at least the fans won't be left disapointed by a team that promised so much.

 

We must be nailed on for the wooden spoon then , the thing is that you may be failing to see is that in Mason Campton we now have a rider that is capable of scoring heavy at reserve.

 

Mason started the season scoring well in the main body of the team where he stayed all season, following on from his fine form in the Australian championships, he really suffered from lack of meetings this year with our farcical '6 week break' In the summer, which really set him back, but he ended the season in much better form, also he represented and scored very well for the Aussie u21 team in the World Cup.

Palm Toft would be equally capable if they swapped places.

Barrett has previous double figure scores at DP, and also away from home when guesting for us, not too shabby for a second reserve.

 

Maybe some doubts about the consistency with Hansen, Bach and Howarth, I believe Hansen and Bach will push each other for the Number 1 jacket and then Howarth especially should put points on his PL average as we all know how good he can be. Leaving Wells, who is really good away from home and was the most consistent rider over the second half of the season and quite rightly our rider of the year, fans all wanted him back.

Importantly, unlike last year Comets have the first call on all 7 riders, so there's no riding for other EL teams when we are riding.

 

Hardly a 'shocking' team in my opinion, I mean we will still finish in the top six at least. I've seen a few shocking teams over our PL era and fail to see where your coming from, are you basing this on Kenneth Hansen being number 1? Maybe not ideal I'd agree, but we shall see how he goes.

[spin king junior]

Looks a solid enough side to me. Lacking a true number one, but I think one of them could step up to the plate. Very surprised that Ash Morris has been left out when he could've easily been slotted in for Barrett though, Is there doubt whether he'll be ready to start the season?

[SCB]

 

We must be nailed on for the wooden spoon then , the thing is that you may be failing to see is that in Mason Campton we now have a rider that is capable of scoring heavy at reserve.

 

Mason started the season scoring well in the main body of the team where he stayed all season, following on from his fine form in the Australian championships, he really suffered from lack of meetings this year with our farcical '6 week break' In the summer, which really set him back, but he ended the season in much better form, also he represented and scored very well for the Aussie u21 team in the World Cup.

Palm Toft would be equally capable if they swapped places.

Barrett has previous double figure scores at DP, and also away from home when guesting for us, not too shabby for a second reserve.

 

Maybe some doubts about the consistency with Hansen, Bach and Howarth, I believe Hansen and Bach will push each other for the Number 1 jacket and then Howarth especially should put points on his PL average as we all know how good he can be. Leaving Wells, who is really good away from home and was the most consistent rider over the second half of the season and quite rightly our rider of the year, fans all wanted him back.

Importantly, unlike last year Comets have the first call on all 7 riders, so there's no riding for other EL teams when we are riding.

 

Hardly a 'shocking' team in my opinion, I mean we will still finish in the top six at least. I've seen a few shocking teams over our PL era and fail to see where your coming from, are you basing this on Kenneth Hansen being number 1? Maybe not ideal I'd agree, but we shall see how he goes.

See Taylorj, thats how it's done.

 

Hansen at 1 is, IMO, a massive fail. A confidence rider, who ended the season with no confidence, set to lead your team. you need your number 1 to believe he can beat any rider, and when he doesn't know it was a blip and he'll win the next one. You don't get that with Kenneth. He's either really good or really bad, thats tolerable from second strings, not from the guy you expect to be scoring close to 25% of your points - he got 80% of his points beating the draft riders last season, he'll be a 6.5 rider at best IMO but he'll have a few great scores along the way, just expect a few 3s and 4s too. Bach will do as Bach has always done, not the worst signing as your second heatleader. Wells, now I really don't get him, very talented, saw that in his first season over here despite the 2 point EL average and the 6+ EL average. Howarth, I quite like him but the EL is his priority as we saw last season and he's not put his PL average up in 3 seasons now. I'm not convinced that Palm Toft is the amazing signing some think, his PL guest bookings last year saw him average what he had done in the PL for the 3 seasons before that, not a bad signing by any means but half a point improvement is not going to turn you into league winners. As for Campton, only seen him ride no video but I'm not a fan, 2 seasons over here and can't average 5, meh. As for Barrett, not improved in 3 seasons over here, a good meeting at Workington doesn't make him a decent rider, seems to be capable of big scores but has more poor scores than bad. Then you're about a point under the limit.

 

Don't forget that Kyle score more than Kenneth and Palm Toft last season in the EL, so to expect them to outscore his 6.5 PL average is a little naive IMO.

 

As a team, it just doesn't excite, I don't see where the big points will come from - Hansen is a poor signing and I don't see where the slack will be taken up. I was more amazed that for the first time in about 10 years Workington had not signed a team that looked like winners!

Edited December 5, 2014 by SCB

[jenga]

good to see we dont look like winners.but then again we didnt build a team to 44.50 points limit, unlike some. me, i am happy with all the team. so lets see how it pans out over a season..

 

remember one year hull built a team of normal riders and,, well you know what happened... or dont you..

Edited December 5, 2014 by jenga

[Lord Lucan]

Well, after last years performances I didn't expect Howarth to be back for this one?

 

Agree with several posters here, not the most exciting team we've picked judging by recent years, too many ponderables for me of riders needing to "up their game" in order for us to be challenging for any honours?

If that is the case that we dont need suffer the double up gremlins we had last time which so soured our season then there is no excuse for any of these selections to perform poor to moderate this time around?

 

Campton is the big question for me, the talk of him scoring well, now he's at reserve, only holds water for as long as he's there, didn't do very well, especially away, in the main team last year so will he be able to do it this time if needs be, if the others maintain or improve then yes, a very handy bloke on his day at reserve but needs to start showing it more often?

Be interesting to find out where Wells will start next season, did well from the middle order over the latter stages but not too good at Ht leader, Howarth, with only one track this year should put more pts on the board if he's focussed enough, Bach, cant see him improving much but should easily score 10+ at home, Barrett, dont know much about but hope he can do a nice job same with Hansen, big ask to be No1 on suspect credentials but we'll have to wait and see and Palm Toft, seems to have earned a reputation as a racer so hope he can do exactly that on a consistent basis and keep the others on their toes!!

 

All in all, not overly excited but, it is what it is and thats our seven to ponder over the Winter, maybe this "nothing exceptional" team will do what the overrated ones haven't in recent years and actually challenge for the "Good Stuff" at the business end instead of just falling apart and wanting to finish, could be where we've been going wrong, doesn't look that good on paper but???

[Marksman]

See Taylorj, thats how it's done.

 

Hansen at 1 is, IMO, a massive fail. A confidence rider, who ended the season with no confidence, set to lead your team. you need your number 1 to believe he can beat any rider, and when he doesn't know it was a blip and he'll win the next one. You don't get that with Kenneth. He's either really good or really bad, thats tolerable from second strings, not from the guy you expect to be scoring close to 25% of your points - he got 80% of his points beating the draft riders last season, he'll be a 6.5 rider at best IMO but he'll have a few great scores along the way, just expect a few 3s and 4s too. Bach will do as Bach has always done, not the worst signing as your second heatleader. Wells, now I really don't get him, very talented, saw that in his first season over here despite the 2 point EL average and the 6+ EL average. Howarth, I quite like him but the EL is his priority as we saw last season and he's not put his PL average up in 3 seasons now. I'm not convinced that Palm Toft is the amazing signing some think, his PL guest bookings last year saw him average what he had done in the PL for the 3 seasons before that, not a bad signing by any means but half a point improvement is not going to turn you into league winners. As for Campton, only seen him ride no video but I'm not a fan, 2 seasons over here and can't average 5, meh. As for Barrett, not improved in 3 seasons over here, a good meeting at Workington doesn't make him a decent rider, seems to be capable of big scores but has more poor scores than bad. Then you're about a point under the limit.

 

Don't forget that Kyle score more than Kenneth and Palm Toft last season in the EL, so to expect them to outscore his 6.5 PL average is a little naive IMO.

 

As a team, it just doesn't excite, I don't see where the big points will come from - Hansen is a poor signing and I don't see where the slack will be taken up. I was more amazed that for the first time in about 10 years Workington had not signed a team that looked like winners!

 

Yes, I see the concerns about Hansen, but I think he maybe more settled with being in the same team as Rene Bach and 2 other Danes, I think he may not be at Number 1 for long which will be a good thing.

Ricky Wells was great in the last half of the season, and if he has a full season of just riding for the Comets I think he can get better, a rider who knows how to gate and even started passing from the back later in the season, I think he can make that step up like Richard Lawson did.

Already mentioned what the others are capable of, won't be expecting too much from Barrett, if he can put in good scores at home and slightly improve his average that will be more than we've had from second reserves in the past.

 

Big point scores of 14/15 might not be scored often, but will be distributed certainly between the top 4 and Campton in order to win meetings, I still believe we can finish in the Play Offs, and if one of the top 4 someone steps up and takes hold of the number 1 jacket we will be in a good position.

 

Years ago when we used to build the team around Stoney, and sometimes his large average our teams used to very much lack depth, never had a reserve like James Wright since, so who knows if confidence remains high in the team.

Excitement will be on the Track as riders like Hansen, Bach, Howarth, Palm Toft are racers and often spectacular to watch, whatever happens can't see it being a dull season.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

good to see we dont look like winners.but then again we didnt build a team to 44.50 points limit, unlike some. me, i am happy with all the team. so lets see how it pans out over a season..

 

remember one year hull built a team of normal riders and,, well you know what happened... or dont you..

have to agree you havent built to 44.5.

 

Thanks to the quirky worky magic converter its actually about 46.wink

[scaramanga]

have to agree you havent built to 44.5.

 

Thanks to the quirky worky magic converter its actually about 46.wink

bspa worked out that palm toft reverted back to his 2013 prem league average not workington

[Tsunami]

good to see we dont look like winners.but then again we didnt build a team to 44.50 points limit, unlike some. me, i am happy with all the team. so lets see how it pans out over a season..

 

remember one year hull built a team of normal riders and,, well you know what happened... or dont you..

 

Aye. Got beat by Newcastle at home, with Newcastle taking the PL title in 2001.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

bspa worked out that palm toft reverted back to his 2013 prem league average not workington

it was in jest - I just like using the quirky worky magic converter line!

Your team is within the rules - some of those rules may be outdated some may have been changed to suit a few at the agm but you are within them ( thanks to Camptons 2 year visa apparently -wink)

[Starman2006]

Looks a solid enough side to me. Lacking a true number one,

I Think Hansen will put 2 points on that 7.70 average.

[topgun]

Are you living in the same world

[jenga]

as the rest of us lol.

[mc1874]

I thought your team last year would be the team to beat. This year I think you maybe have a more solid look. That often can be what wins things. Despite Workington always having high expectations I find the people that support the comets amongst the best I have met in 30 years of watching this sport. Just friendly and genuine. Fiercely passionate, but dignified.

 

This year MIchael Palm Toft could be the steal of the season. Kyle Howarth will be a 9 point guy. He has so much potential and is such s genuinely fair and courageous rider.

 

But I think if the comets get lucky with injuries who knows. Comets fans would love a grand final place would be electric. As long as edinburgh won of course.....only jesting comets may just do it.

[jenga]

thank you mc1874. the whole of workington accepts your kind and generous comments.