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Excuse my ignorance but Sam Chapman (born 16 February 1989) ?

 

Does that not mean he will be 26 this season and too old to double up between Brum & Plym ?

 

Not saying the date is accurate (Wikipedia) just asking the question....

Speedway results have his date of birth as....

 

1998-05-26

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NL eligibility:

 

19.9.2.2 A current PL Rider under 25 years-old with a PL MA of 4.00 or below at the start of the
Season.

 

He's 26 at the start of the season (because it doesn't start on the 1st January, it starts on 15th March), so he can't ride for Birmingham and Plymouth.

 

That's the 2014 regulations, though, and we all know how accurate they are.....................

 

I sense a crooked interests of speedway, no public justification, say a word against it and you'll be shafted from all sides decision.

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He certainly isn't 16! Last season I think he was about 24 so 26 for next season will probably be correct. Yes this is a problem as you cannot double-up at over 25, hence why Simon Lambert can't this year and why Rye were going to have Bowen lead the NL team this year but have realised they can't

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NL eligibility:

 

19.9.2.2 A current PL Rider under 25 years-old with a PL MA of 4.00 or below at the start of the

Season.

 

He's 26 at the start of the season (because it doesn't start on the 1st January, it starts on 15th March), so he can't ride for Birmingham and Plymouth.

 

That's the 2014 regulations, though, and we all know how accurate they are.....................

 

I sense a crooked interests of speedway, no public justification, say a word against it and you'll be shafted from all sides decision.

 

As far as age goes I thought it was a riders age at the start of that year, not the start of the season.

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As far as age goes I thought it was a riders age at the start of that year, not the start of the season.

 

The rule quite clearly says under 25 at 'the start of the season'.

 

The season is defined:

 

Season: The period from March 15th (March 8th when Easter falls in March) to October 31st (both inclusive) and Meetings may only be held outside this

period where specific written permission of the SCB has been given.

 

As far as I can see he will be 26 at the start of the season, so he is ineligible to ride in the NL if he is riding in the PL.

 

As I say, though, that's the 2014 Regulations, which also state that Jack Holder's average is a 5.00.

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When ages of riders are taken into consideration, it's the age at the start of the year. If a rider is 21 on January 2nd, then they can still compete in the Under-21 events for that season.

 

All the best

Rob

 

That's in the FIM Regs relating to the U21 championship:

 

072.2.1 Eligibility

The limit for the minimum age (16 years) starts on the date of the rider's birthday and the limit for the maximum age (21 years) finishes at the end of the year in which they reach 21 years, pursuant to the FIM Medical Code.

 

That's for individual championships only and has no relevance to racing in leagues in this country. SCB Regulations most certainly do.

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The rule quite clearly says under 25 at 'the start of the season'.

 

 

 

 

When ages of riders are taken into consideration, it's the age at the start of the year. If a rider is 21 on January 2nd, then they can still compete in the Under-21 events for that season.

 

All the best

Rob

 

 

 

Regardless of when his birthday is, or the fact that he will or will not be 26 at the start of this Year, or Season, whichever point in time you choose, that one word, 'UNDER' precludes him from riding in the NL.

 

It means he will certainly be 1 year, if not 2 years too old according to the rule HT quoted, as long as that rule is adopted for the 2015 season of course.

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Quite a risk signing this? I hope they have a decent reserve alongside him or he'll be under a lot of pressure to score points... Might be being a bit harsh here but did he just stand out at Scunthorpe last season because the rest of the team was so bad?

 

Out of curiosity why hasn't Ben Morley had more of a chance at PL level? Seems to have been around for ages but never had a decent run in the Premier

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As far as age goes I thought it was a riders age at the start of that year, not the start of the season.

 

 

So did I, as I posted earlier. However, as the 2014 SCB regulation have been posted to say "start of the season" it is pretty clear.

 

What you and I were thinking, I suspect, is the FIM regulation for riders entering U-21 events and the like -- that runs from Jan 1,

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Regardless of when his birthday is, or the fact that he will or will not be 26 at the start of this Year, or Season, whichever point in time you choose, that one word, 'UNDER' precludes him from riding in the NL.

 

It means he will certainly be 1 year, if not 2 years too old according to the rule HT quoted, as long as that rule is adopted for the 2015 season of course.

Thats my reading of it too, a rider has to be under 25. So 24 or less on March 15th. Lets be kind here and say Jan 1st to be consistent with the FIM - Sam Chapman was 25 on the 1st January thus not UNDER 25.

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If that rule is still in place, looks like it could be back to the drawing board. Im sure it would be more financially viable for Sam to stay nl for another year and score big points and grow in confidence rather than just do pl, which we all know is a big step up.

 

Also according to a post on the Plymouth forum it looks like the team will be without their captain for 7 meetings due to fixture clashes. Perhaps a change in the captaincy would be beneficial to give the team some sort of consistency.

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So did I, as I posted earlier. However, as the 2014 SCB regulation have been posted to say "start of the season" it is pretty clear.

 

What you and I were thinking, I suspect, is the FIM regulation for riders entering U-21 events and the like -- that runs from Jan 1,

 

Start of the season though is not a fixed date each year, for example do we take the start of this season to be the Ben Fund meeting at Swindon or the first official fixture.

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Start of the season though is not a fixed date each year, for example do we take the start of this season to be the Ben Fund meeting at Swindon or the first official fixture.

 

The start of the season is 15th March unless Easter falls in March, in which case it is the 8th.

 

The SCB Regs definition of Age is "The minimum age is the date when that age is reached, whereas the maximum age limit is as at 1st January that year". On re-reading 19.9.2.2, I believe "start of the season" is only intended to apply to the 4 pt PL average and not the age.

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