dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Whilst I can see the benefits for the order of matches being set up to ensure they are more likely to mean sonething in this case you have to factor in that Edinburgh also need to fit in a LC final and KOCup semi tie. Because of that it is right that their fixtures were scheduled as was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catch Me If You Can Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 It's done and dusted because Berwick and Workington lost home and away. It's as simple as that. Causing an upset, keeping the group alive and maintaining interest would have been achieved by ether of them winning at least their home meetings, not by shuffling the fixtures. That's clutching at straws. Personally I would exclude top two and let the other four teams fight for championship!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 (edited) It's done and dusted because Berwick and Workington lost home and away. It's as simple as that. Causing an upset, keeping the group alive and maintaining interest would have been achieved by ether of them winning at least their home meetings, not by shuffling the fixtures. That's clutching at straws. My point is fella is that the group would still have "some" meaning to "every" team over the course of the event not dead and buried after one week, shuffling the fixtures "would" have prevented this happening, people can't moan about meaningless fixtures/money spinners for clubs etc and then have this practice as being acceptable? Yes, Berwick/Comets have been pretty crap but at least we could have been crap a little bit longer and make Edinburgh wait for the inevitable!! No he makes a good point if promoters were doing what their job is called they would have arranged it so that at least one of this weekend's fixtures was Berwick vs Workington and if it was a neutral organising they would have ensured that the team most likely to qualify were in the final match. The other group is the same although it may end up being an exciting shootout between Ipswich and Somerset. What should be money spinning play off matches are now worse than a meaningless end of season challenge match, it's not even as if the winner is given bronze medals. Worked perfectly for the monarchs as they now have time to fit in the ko cup and league cup. Exactly, the whole point of a play off group, maintenance of interest for the paying public!! Whilst I can see the benefits for the order of matches being set up to ensure they are more likely to mean sonething in this case you have to factor in that Edinburgh also need to fit in a LC final and KOCup semi tie. Because of that it is right that their fixtures were scheduled as was. And that quote D says it all, it just takes us back to that same old argument about fixture planning and how we are in Sept/Oct and still not completed a competition from April and one from May!! Edited September 28, 2014 by Lord Lucan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Totally agree. Personally I would want to see the LC finished by the end of June and the KOCup by the end of August. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Personally I would exclude top two and let the other four teams fight for championship!! Top two to the semi's by right, then 3 v 6 and 4 v 5 winners to play the top two decided by league placing, winners to the final!! Totally agree. Personally I would want to see the LC finished by the end of June and the KOCup by the end of August. Agreed. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciderman Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 How many turned up last night, I couldn't make it. Bad but expected result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 How many turned up last night, I couldn't make it. Bad but expected result. Wasn't good, around 400 mark maybe a little bit more, grandstand was very thinly populated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Wasn't good, around 400 mark maybe a little bit more, grandstand was very thinly populated? Wasn't great, which is a shame I guess the comets fans didn't believe they could do it. Still probably about double what will be for the league match if they run it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Totally agree. Personally I would want to see the LC finished by the end of June and the KOCup by the end of August. I am sure it used to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blacksmith Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 I am sure it used to be.Too much importance now on getting league matches squeezed in before the play offs cut off, cup matches just get pushed to the side.Workington staged 3 double headers in a row in an effort to get in the play offs, then after Edinburgh won their first three play off matches, Workington got a poor turn out last night, and I am sure it will be even worse in a fortnight against Berwick. Was it worth it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 28, 2014 Report Share Posted September 28, 2014 Too much importance now on getting league matches squeezed in before the play offs cut off, cup matches just get pushed to the side. Workington staged 3 double headers in a row in an effort to get in the play offs, then after Edinburgh won their first three play off matches, Workington got a poor turn out last night, and I am sure it will be even worse in a fortnight against Berwick. Was it worth it??? To be fair, the real problem has been the rain causing rainoffs. Some like Worky and Glasgow seem to get more of the stuff than others, so it was bound to cause probs and not just to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 (edited) Wasn't great, which is a shame I guess the comets fans didn't believe they could do it. Still probably about double what will be for the league match if they run it No, that ship sailed long ago, dont get many posters on here thesedays to voice an opinion one way or the other so, your probably right? Still have a fortnight to go after the Berwick matches so should have a couple of Saturday's going free, the problem will be finding one to suit Edinburgh, you guys have some fixtures to fit in? Could have argued the case to make this weekend's match another dble header and saved a few headaches into the bargain, not the best of options for sure but as you say, how many will turn up for a match that means nothing to either side, dare say it wont be good, a lot of fans have lost a lot of interest? Edited September 29, 2014 by Lord Lucan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workyboy Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 No, that ship sailed long ago, dont get many posters on here thesedays to voice an opinion one way or the other so, your probably right? Still have a fortnight to go after the Berwick matches so should have a couple of Saturday's going free, the problem will be finding one to suit Edinburgh, you guys have some fixtures to fit in? Could have argued the case to make this weekend's match another dble header and saved a few headaches into the bargain, not the best of options for sure but as you say, how many will turn up for a match that means nothing to either side, dare say it wont be good, a lot of fans have lost a lot of interest? And so have the riders!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotchopper Posted September 29, 2014 Report Share Posted September 29, 2014 Shame there is that lack of interest, considering the weather you have had it was a decent achievement to make it to the play offs. If you make it to the play off s you deserve a couple of big meetings. League match is scheduled for 18th October Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Lucan Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Shame there is that lack of interest, considering the weather you have had it was a decent achievement to make it to the play offs. If you make it to the play off s you deserve a couple of big meetings. League match is scheduled for 18th October Absolutely, but the problem for us has been the lack of competitiveness we've shown, especially away against the top sides that has caused that apathy in the play offs? We have simply not gelled as a "team" this year through one thing and another and that constant upset with rain offs, injuries, missing riders, no meetings on good days etc has given people the easy option to write this season off? Agree with workyboy, the riders have their interest's elsewhere also, they may have better chances of success with their other commitments than they do for us so it's to be expected really, it's hard to keep performing when you know your chances of silverware with the Comets have gone for the season, what's left for us are matches that mean nothing bar fulfilling the fixture list, not much interest in those I'm afraid? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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