Alex2000 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 No im realistic enough to know they wont win the league but even if i did think that i wouldnt start throwing mt toys out the pram because others disagree What do you expect though coming on an Eastbourne forum and telling us we have a rubbish team! Not being rude but It really is no one knows who will win or lose and you can't say they won't win although we probably won't. Just wait and see you should know if you are a seasoned fan that anything can happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 (edited) Personally I think they have a good team. Not the best but I can see some fire in the belly of the team. Owen and Wilson dean will make it a good challange for most away track they come too when Warwick and andrews will back them up. Mason Dugard wood will all score a little. They all started at under 36 points. Good luck to them all. Big forum or Little forum it's an open forum. Edited March 24, 2015 by catinthehat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 What do you expect though coming on an Eastbourne forum and telling us we have a rubbish team! Not being rude but It really is no one knows who will win or lose and you can't say they won't win although we probably won't. Just wait and see you should know if you are a seasoned fan that anything can happen. Can I ask how much experience and knowledge do you have of national league level speedway and the riders that compete? You seem to be arguing with people who have travelled far and wide watching these guys for years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm loving the logic of, "We will be good, you can't say we'll be bad because you don't know because we've not raced yet". Well actually, just over half your teams has raced in league speedway previously and one of your reserves has competed against some of the other NL riders at U15 level so people do have some idea of how good (or not) they are. It's not like they have all just jumped off a plane from a far away land and nobody has any idea how good they are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Just saw some pictures of the new Eastbourne team suits, Eastbourne invented team suits I hear, they look horrible. Edited March 25, 2015 by RocketBen1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Can I ask how much experience and knowledge do you have of national league level speedway and the riders that compete? You seem to be arguing with people who have travelled far and wide watching these guys for years. I'm not arguing just saying that you can't go saying a team will be rubbish when it's never been in the league before. Obviously you haven't got much knowledge because you don't know that anything can happen. End of conversation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm not arguing just saying that you can't go saying a team will be rubbish when it's never been in the league before. Obviously you haven't got much knowledge because you don't know that anything can happen. End of conversation. Mason, Owen, Warwick and Andrews have all been in the league before though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Mason, Owen, Warwick and Andrews have all been in the league before though. Yes I know that they have. And no most people don't hold high hopes for Andrews or Mason. Where in the team did they ride before? I just don't want to finish bottom of the table! Would be a bonus if at the top but an unlikely one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm not arguing just saying that you can't go saying a team will be rubbish when it's never been in the league before. Obviously you haven't got much knowledge because you don't know that anything can happen. End of conversation. After school tonight I suggest you read the thread properly. I have at no point said eagles will be rubbish (although I am starting to hope they are just to see what you say for yourself then) I have even said at various times that they will spank my team good friday... but over a season i feel they will be mid table at best.I have done the updates for the speedway update site from both ends of the phone and always assess riders in an unbiased way. But you are basing all you Comments on fresh air and assumptions. As for your comment of end of conversation, a conversation implies a two way discussion where both parties speak and listen. You seem unable to listen so there is no conversation here. Martin and Connor have seriously raised the bar promotionally not only at nl level but for speedway as a whole but that does not guarantee a winning side. The fact your boys can practice at home at will, will mean at home you will be pretty hard to beat but on the road you at first glance look a very beatable 7. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 (edited) Having seen what i did on press day i also have been told some times by my mate, Warwick, Owen, BWD, Andrews were all very similar times, Mason was off the pace, Dugard and Wood were as good as Mason.But means nothing if you can’t get out the start. I am looking at the positive side of it all, We are lucky we have Speedway in Sussex I think now that Martin Dugard has been let free to do what he can with the sport at Eastbourne its started to Buzz again as it did in 85, 86, 87, also I think the team is going to give a very entertaining speedway meeting, a home meeting will be easier as there is not many that will like a grippy small track, away form will be better than the Elite League but again that won’t be hard to follow.As it shows there are lots of people out to knock Eastbourne and see them drop like a stone, Eastbourne are not the best loved club in the leagues but at least we have a local speedway track for the time being, Hats of to Team Dugard (Not Bob ) as he is not involved with this project, Bob Showed up on Friday at press day him and Martin had a chat in the pits then he watched a few go round then he left. ( Not the Bob we no he didnt get involved or drive the tractor) But good to see he is letting go and have to say for a better future for the club. Tea Boy your 100% right you have hit it all with Facts, yes Martin and Connor have done a good so far to promote the club again, the advantage is the practice they have done at home already but i guess thats what happens when you run a club and want to win not letting anyone else use the track, I think thats pretty fair. I am lookiing forward to the start of a new era and seeing how they are going to do, i think just on what they have done so far looks great, I love the suits with the eagle on the back and the feathers on the arms, We all can see that a little bit more passion has gone into the club. Edited March 25, 2015 by catinthehat 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurnTwo Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Alex you've let your whole oppinion be changed by other forum members you went from Eastbourne finishing in the top 3 to 'at the top but and unlikely one' very thickle young man if you think the Eagles will finish top stick with that, if they finish top then gloat and boast if they don't equally hold your hands up and admit you were wrong but do not let other people change your oppinion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teaboy279 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Cat I am glad you have taken time to read my posts. Being a son of a Canterbury rider I have an inbuilt rivalry with the eagles but not hatred. It was one of the best things to come out of the winter not only that they survived but riding in the national league and trophy is great for both clubs. Meaning two jumbo crowds each for both home meetings. While it was gutting Arena did not enter in the end I don't feel they would of added the same number of travelling fans that the eagles and kings fans will do. Roll on next Friday even though I expect a 20 odd point win for the blue and yellow I really can't wait!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 As it shows there are lots of people out to knock Eastbourne and see them drop like a stone, Eastbourne are not the best loved club in the leagues but at least we have a local speedway track for the time being, Hats of to Team Dugard (Not Bob ) as he is not involved with this project, Bob Showed up on Friday at press day him and Martin had a chat in the pits then he watched a few go round then he left. ( Not the Bob we no he didnt get involved or drive the tractor) But good to see he is letting go and have to say for a better future for the club. No, it shows lots of people are disagreed with the 2 or 3 Eastbourne fans who have delusions of grandeur. It's not at Eastbourne thing, it's nothing to do with what club it is. It's discussion/debate (even arguing if you prefer) about the good and bad points of a team make up. You'd probably find that if 2 or 3 Coventry fans posted that the Storm were going to average 50 points combined, beat everyone at home, everyone, even the highly rated riders will struggle at Brandon then a few people would point out, that's not going to happen in the real World. It's probably fair to say that most people will be impressed by what Martin and Connor are doing at Eastbourne, it's hard not to be. In that respect I hope it's a huge success as they're clearly giving it a bloody good go! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sings4Speedway Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 The reason I like this forum is the enthusiasm shown by so many fans. Yes opinions differ, we all have riders we rate / think are shocking but that's just life. Good on the passionate Eastbourne fans Alex 2000BC , Cat in the Mac and alike. I hope they enjoy NL racing at Arlington good or bad and get the chance to visit various other tracks around the country too. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben91 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 The Eastbourne "trick track" thing isn't true either. There are plenty of small tracks in the NL and all tracks are there to be ridden at the end of the day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted March 25, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 By the way he Opened the thread! Yes because I support the National League as well!! Another team in the league is good for the league, especially now given the professionalism (Brendan apart) that the Dugards have shown and I wish them the very best for a successful season and hopefully many more. What the NL is about is seeing Kelsey & Wood become your heat leaders! Myself, and several others on here, have seen some of those riders on many occasions and have simply been more realistic in our views. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hector Austin Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I'm not arguing just saying that you can't go saying a team will be rubbish when it's never been in the league before. Obviously you haven't got much knowledge because you don't know that anything can happen. End of conversation. I've just found yo Dummy boy, shall I post it back to ya :rofl: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21st century heathen Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 The Eastbourne "trick track" thing isn't true either. There are plenty of small tracks in the NL and all tracks are there to be ridden at the end of the day. I disagree. Arlington does have a 'trick' to it because it's not just, or not even, that it's small but it's a unique shape (though one could make an argument for it being a very small Sheffield-like D shape). All their to be ridden though, I agree with that wholeheartedly. What's most important to any club is winning at home and keeping the home fans happy and coming back week-on-week so there's nothing wrong with a bit of home track advantage, as long at the track, particularly with regard to the start gates, is graded evenly. It sounds as though there's a buzz about the place ahead of this new era for Eastbourne and I wish them well. That said I'm going to predict mid-table at best this season. There are too many other clubs that will pick up more away league points in my opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I've just found yo Dummy boy, shall I post it back to ya :rofl: that makes no sense! I've just found yo Dummy boy, shall I post it back to ya :rofl: You are Interpreting this all wrong. Not that you know what interpret means! Anyway yes I'll have my dummy back or maybe shove it in your own mouth might work I've just found yo Dummy boy, shall I post it back to ya :rofl: You are Interpreting this all wrong. Not that you know what interpret means! Anyway yes I'll have my dummy back or maybe shove it in your own mouth might work The reason I like this forum is the enthusiasm shown by so many fans. Yes opinions differ, we all have riders we rate / think are shocking but that's just life. Good on the passionate Eastbourne fans Alex 2000BC , Cat in the Mac and alike. I hope they enjoy NL racing at Arlington good or bad and get the chance to visit various other tracks around the country too. I like Alex 2000BC might change it to that!Alex you've let your whole oppinion be changed by other forum members you went from Eastbourne finishing in the top 3 to 'at the top but and unlikely one' very thickle young man if you think the Eagles will finish top stick with that, if they finish top then gloat and boast if they don't equally hold your hands up and admit you were wrong but do not let other people change your oppinion! I do think they will finish up near the top but I'm trying to get others off my back! And I am looking forward to is proving them wrong! I hope you agree with me!Alex you've let your whole oppinion be changed by other forum members you went from Eastbourne finishing in the top 3 to 'at the top but and unlikely one' very thickle young man if you think the Eagles will finish top stick with that, if they finish top then gloat and boast if they don't equally hold your hands up and admit you were wrong but do not let other people change your oppinion! I do think they will finish up near the top but I'm trying to get others off my back! And I am looking forward to is proving them wrong! I hope you agree with me!Alex you've let your whole oppinion be changed by other forum members you went from Eastbourne finishing in the top 3 to 'at the top but and unlikely one' very thickle young man if you think the Eagles will finish top stick with that, if they finish top then gloat and boast if they don't equally hold your hands up and admit you were wrong but do not let other people change your oppinion! I do think they will finish up near the top but I'm trying to get others off my back! And I am looking forward to is proving them wrong! I hope you agree with me! After school tonight I suggest you read the thread properly. I have at no point said eagles will be rubbish (although I am starting to hope they are just to see what you say for yourself then) I have even said at various times that they will spank my team good friday... but over a season i feel they will be mid table at best. I have done the updates for the speedway update site from both ends of the phone and always assess riders in an unbiased way. But you are basing all you Comments on fresh air and assumptions. As for your comment of end of conversation, a conversation implies a two way discussion where both parties speak and listen. You seem unable to listen so there is no conversation here. Martin and Connor have seriously raised the bar promotionally not only at nl level but for speedway as a whole but that does not guarantee a winning side. The fact your boys can practice at home at will, will mean at home you will be pretty hard to beat but on the road you at first glance look a very beatable 7. Ok I read it through properly and I stuck with my opinion of that we will do well. And if I am wrong you can tell me come October! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Rocket Ben I think your negativity towards Eastbourne is really starting to show. But if we just use facts so that you are not upset it will prove your wrong. Eastbourne being a Trick Track!? Have a look at and aerial view (that’s from above) https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/East+Sussex+BN27+3RE/@50.8575106,0.2282923,297m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m2!3m1!1s0x47df6fcd40e00d97:0xece4f7892363a351 then click that satalite view. Fact 1: This clearly shows that the track is obscure shape (not a standard race track shape) this means that it is difficult to ride let alone race.Fact 2: From the start the white line has been cut away in 1988 to make more room to the first turn, then coming out the first turn the curb was cut away to make more room to allow for any errors that may happen.Fact 3: Tai Woffenden had the same problem last year at Eastbourne where he picked up drive and hit the safety fence not beacuse its and easy track to race because its a Trick Track.Many others have fallen fowl ( ) of the Eagles nest with the shape of the track and the speed for something thats small.I think no more said about the track. As for the team suits I think they look great maybe you better have a look at Mildenhall and other clubs just to see how nice Eastbourne suits are. But again you have made your point and you dislike them, I really like them they look great but its a personal choice but i have not gone on an open forum and shouted about them.Personally it does not make them wrong or right? the fact that your being negative again means either your upset with the way the club is being run or your jealous of the club and the way its going forward. Its a new Era at Eastbourne and thanks to Martin and Connor saving speedway at Eastbourne, i think you should look at a bigger picture. Speedway is still there and its looks as if its going to be pushed as hard as it can and there is nothing wrong with that as its about time that the biggest kept secret of speedway in sussex is alive and kicking.Careful not to knock something that you possibly could not do any better to design a suit or run a speedway club or maybe you can.lets put it to a challege as I have a bet on with Ceglio about the open fixture, Why not come along and have a chat with us at Eastbourne. Bring your excitement can so you can take some of the excitment away with you to open up in your front room and see the light. From what we was shown on Press day and the drive of the new sponsors that Eastbourne will be the friendly club that all the kids want to join and race for a bit like the Elite League when all the riders wand to go to Poole. Come on Eastbourne IT First all the way 2015 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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