TMW Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Maybe he thought he was able to get a UK passport then couldn't get one with current visa problems? Didn't the young stars have a similar problem with Alex Davies a few seasons back? Maybe they should wait till the rider has the passport in their hand until teams decide to build around them. If that is the case. kevlars for the team provided by the club …… this is national league we're talking about ? Don't see a problem with riders being sponsored for their race suits even if they are all the same. It's an expensive item they don't have to buy now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Shaleman Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Well to be fair to the Dugards they put their hands up and they know they made a mistake but looks like they've resolved it in Richard Andrews! - great signing! Yes, just seen Richard was the rider of the year down at Devon in 2014. Glowing "reference" in last week's Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Just read last weeks star as i always get it a week later from my mate . Richard Andrews seems to be a good signing. Just did the sums between my coffee break and judge Rinder, The original team as it was with the " the 3 point rider that is now a 5 pointer" and they would have been 35.71 points. With a new look and a revamp team with Richard and a 5 pointer now sit at 35.91. Not Bad for a team that had made Team mistake and has recovered well also they had no riders in December. Team suits and a Sponsor to throw in the mix it looks like this promotion is going to bring something that the league needed it a bit like the Old Days when everyone was ready for Eastbourne to come to Town. Looking forward to going to Arlington this year and sitting back and watching a lively match, Kings Lynn did it they changed Speedway in Norfolk and now its time for Eastbourne to do the same, Let get a party going. Loud music or upto date music at least would be nice. Maybe possible a Kids Club to meet the Riders like they used to do many years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islander15 Posted February 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Yes, just seen Richard was the rider of the year down at Devon in 2014. Glowing "reference" in last week's Star With the upmost of respect to Richard who improved more last year than about the previous 5 put together, he didn't have a lot of competition for that title with Shanes who had a spell out injured apart, they had 1 rider end the season injured, 1 miss a lot of away meetings, 2 retire and then never replaced 1 of them and a couple of mid season signings. Richard will probably improve a little but it's not a league winning signing as some seem to think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 I think your right Islander it’s not a league winning signing, it more like signing that can win the league along with the KOC and the NT. It’s a team effort and as much as i sit on the fence i can see that Eastbourne this year has a good chance of being up there with rest of them, The team that have put out seems to be more entertaining that in the last 10 years, and I can feel lots of changes going on that other clubs should follow, Easy for us to sit here and moan and groan, why don’t we make it a date and try and bring more speedway fans to speedway, Bit like the ice bucket challenge, Name 3 people to come to speedway that have never been? Mmmm might have an idea with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Lets take a look Eastbourne have released BDJ who has a 6.21 average, and would have probably improved minimally to slightly over 7, they have gained in his place a rider who is on a 5, that will improve to slightly over 6 ( i base this on his NZ races against RTD). Then they have a there final signing Richard Andrews who has been around for a few years now, and picks up the odd win now and again against fellow reserves, and nothing i have ever seen from him gives me any idea that he will do any different in the main body of the Team. I have said earlier this Team at best qualify for the Gold Cup, i cannot see them picking up an away win, whilst they have David Mason in the Team, and Danny Warwick has always scored better at home, though not so bad away as DM, so apart from Marc Owen they will struggle at away Tracks, because they just dont have the Heat Leader strength, as Islander says this is NOT a League winning Team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Lets take a look Eastbourne have released BDJ who has a 6.21 average, and would have probably improved minimally to slightly over 7, they have gained in his place a rider who is on a 5, that will improve to slightly over 6 ( i base this on his NZ races against RTD). Then they have a there final signing Richard Andrews who has been around for a few years now, and picks up the odd win now and again against fellow reserves, and nothing i have ever seen from him gives me any idea that he will do any different in the main body of the Team. I have said earlier this Team at best qualify for the Gold Cup, i cannot see them picking up an away win, whilst they have David Mason in the Team, and Danny Warwick has always scored better at home, though not so bad away as DM, so apart from Marc Owen they will struggle at away Tracks, because they just dont have the Heat Leader strength, as Islander says this is NOT a League winning Team. And they want to put him at number 2. Anyone could win you haven't seen them race as a team so don't judge. People that pre judge a team do get me annoyed because its only February not a race has been done. ANY team can win its a numbers game yes, but anything can happen and you are drawing ideas from the last an numbers. Who knows what will happen! If we don't win away once this year it will be disappointing but I think there's a chance we will! Edited February 5, 2015 by Alex2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) Oh I know where we will win.... Rye house they have no team!! Hahaha Edited February 5, 2015 by Alex2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ceglio Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 Well said Alex, numerical things could happen; riders with less knowledge using the wrong set up, engine failures, simple mistakes, running out of funds, bent bikes any one of these could hit anyone at any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 And they want to put him at number 2. Anyone could win you haven't seen them race as a team so don't judge. People that pre judge a team do get me annoyed because its only February not a race has been done. ANY team can win its a numbers game yes, but anything can happen and you are drawing ideas from the last an numbers. Who knows what will happen! If we don't win away once this year it will be disappointing but I think there's a chance we will! Pre-judging? None of these riders have just appeared from nowhere. They ahve all raced somewhere before and people have seen them before to be able to judge them based on past performances. If it really was impossible to judge then all teams could be randomly selected out of a hat and the points limit would be pointless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Yes SCB most have been seen before and I agree the older riders in the team won't add to averages and won't improve much. but the others will have been in practise over winter and they are more than able to get better. Have you seen the video of Wilson dean? He is a very good rider for his level Well said Alex, numerical things could happen; riders with less knowledge using the wrong set up, engine failures, simple mistakes, running out of funds, bent bikes any one of these could hit anyone at any time. its all a game of numbers for some. Don't think of this type of problem that could change things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 I have heard on the jungle drums that Eastbourne have gone for a Grant from the BSPA to put in another training track, Looks like its back to 80's Where kids can ride and progress to ride in the main stream of speedway, Gary Tagg, Scott Swain, David Norris, and So on, well it does look as if things are going to change at last. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Ceglio Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Look at Warwicks scores from 2012 before he has really found his form on the grass and sand: Just looked at Warwick 5 points at Dudley at no.1 7 points at Stoke at no.3 6 points at mildenhall at no.1 14+1 at Buxton at no.3 6+1 at Kings Lynn at no.1 7+1 at scunthorpe at no.1 That's away form. So I think that's a no brainier bringing him in on a watered down league at number 5. Looking at Wilson dean who finished 4th in the world in 2011 for the gold youth cup (he was winning the final until his chain snapped) I would be very suprised if he doesn't finish at number 1 on a 9 point average. He was racing against Robert lambert last year and finished a bike length behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greyhoundp Posted February 7, 2015 Report Share Posted February 7, 2015 Look at Warwicks scores from 2012 before he has really found his form on the grass and sand: Just looked at Warwick 5 points at Dudley at no.1 7 points at Stoke at no.3 6 points at mildenhall at no.1 14+1 at Buxton at no.3 6+1 at Kings Lynn at no.1 7+1 at scunthorpe at no.1 That's away form. So I think that's a no brainier bringing him in on a watered down league at number 5. Looking at Wilson dean who finished 4th in the world in 2011 for the gold youth cup (he was winning the final until his chain snapped) I would be very suprised if he doesn't finish at number 1 on a 9 point average. He was racing against Robert lambert last year and finished a bike length behind. MC, there are NOT many that finish on a 9.00 average in the NL, yes its a watered down league, i wouldnt argue that he may be the Eastbourne No1 at the end of the season, lets be honest your current No1 has a 4.77 away average, so there aint much to better there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 MC I think your a bit high with your average with your new guy I can see he is good but its a long way from home where he is a superstar. But given enough help I am sure he be in the top 6 of the NL averages. So who is going to help him? Big step for man kind lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted February 8, 2015 Report Share Posted February 8, 2015 Can't see mason making any progress, Warwick will always do a good job. Owen should get a bit better. Dugard and wood are unknown along with the new 5 pointer. Andrews should improve so looking on paper a good side but need to be on the game at home and away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I received the Eastbourne Tourist Guide for 2015 this morning . There is not one word about the Speedway there but most other sports seem to be covered. How do they expect people to go to Arlington if it's not even in the tourist guide? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan_Jones Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 I received the Eastbourne Tourist Guide for 2015 this morning . There is not one word about the Speedway there but most other sports seem to be covered. How do they expect people to go to Arlington if it's not even in the tourist guide? Maybe because it's not in Eastbourne? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex2000 Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 Maybe because it's not in Eastbourne? Yes thats right but its only about 7 miles away..... and if you are named after the town! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catinthehat Posted February 9, 2015 Report Share Posted February 9, 2015 (edited) Mick your right they have missed out there, but i did have a look and found it on the Eastbourne Tourist information, http://www.visiteastbourne.com Then go to things to do there is a bit about speedway. Unless they have bigger plans to get it out there, not sure what they are going to do maybe jump a bus on the seafront with a speedway bike. well lets see whats going to happen, Maybe the new sponsor is a radio or TVs company? But of course you could be wrong Mick as there is an Enhanced listings guide for Eastbourne that comes out in April maybe you will see it in there. Edited February 9, 2015 by catinthehat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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