TheReturn Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I was watching the life of Tai last week, which offered a great insight into his racing and I was shocked at the amount of travel and lack of sleep he (and many of the top boys) must have to go through. I guess perhaps emphasised by the fact he had to take time out this year due to exhaustion. For Tai's sake, if he was able/allowed, would he not be better off riding for a midweek track to give himself an extra 24 hour break between Poland and Sweden most weeks? * Before starting this I have no idea on contracts and who owns his contract to race in the UK or how moving to another track is conducted. Also, sorry Wolves fans. Tai is one of, our only British talent, and it would be a shame to see him burn out if moving from Monday night racing to a midweek track was a possibility. That would give him some free Monday's to minimise possible burn out. (I assume he is not riding in Denmark?) Just a thought.... I am sure I am forgetting something obvious, but his lack of sleep between Poland, Wolves and Sweden surprised me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woz01 Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 I was watching the life of Tai last week, which offered a great insight into his racing and I was shocked at the amount of travel and lack of sleep he (and many of the top boys) must have to go through. I guess perhaps emphasised by the fact he had to take time out this year due to exhaustion. For Tai's sake, if he was able/allowed, would he not be better off riding for a midweek track to give himself an extra 24 hour break between Poland and Sweden most weeks? * Before starting this I have no idea on contracts and who owns his contract to race in the UK or how moving to another track is conducted. Also, sorry Wolves fans. Tai is one of, our only British talent, and it would be a shame to see him burn out if moving from Monday night racing to a midweek track was a possibility. That would give him some free Monday's to minimise possible burn out. (I assume he is not riding in Denmark?) Just a thought.... I am sure I am forgetting something obvious, but his lack of sleep between Poland, Wolves and Sweden surprised me. I think most if not all of the top riders would prefer Wed/Thur/Fri schedule in Britain. Gives them a break every 2-3 days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob B Posted September 23, 2014 Report Share Posted September 23, 2014 But few weeks ago Tai was saying in press he thinks all Elite League tracks should ride on Mondays! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steven101 Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Id like elite league to run on one specific night maybe monday all have proven they can ride mondays by sky meetings. They wouldnt need to change schedule. Ride each other once home and away giving riders not as many meetings to come over for. Bring back the elite KOC for some more racing for fans maybe ridden every so often instead of all at once. Bit logical for me anyone think this could work? Also with not as many meetings might tempt a couple of big riders back, maybe increase pts limit for the top 5 ? Or seperate pts limit for hestleaders and second strings would be cool IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Boot this prat out of british speedway - if he was a foreigner hed get slated left right and centre Poles who miss el meetings get slated but usually because their riding in poland, same with swedes so whats woffidens excuse? Showed zero commitment to wolves this season - get rid . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) But few weeks ago Tai was saying in press he thinks all Elite League tracks should ride on Mondays! As an old Spanish saying goes...."...there's a different song to sing each day..." Boot this prat out of british speedway - if he was a foreigner hed get slated left right and centre Poles who miss el meetings get slated but usually because their riding in poland, same with swedes so whats woffidens excuse? Showed zero commitment to wolves this season - get rid . That's an interesting suggestion.....! Edited September 24, 2014 by Guest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 That's an interesting suggestion.....! Its a usual suggestion unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pinny Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 If he give wolves 100 percent this year they should be looking for a replacement as nearly two points off a number ones average is disgraceful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPEEDY69 Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 I was watching the life of Tai last week, which offered a great insight into his racing and I was shocked at the amount of travel and lack of sleep he (and many of the top boys) must have to go through. I guess perhaps emphasised by the fact he had to take time out this year due to exhaustion. For Tai's sake, if he was able/allowed, would he not be better off riding for a midweek track to give himself an extra 24 hour break between Poland and Sweden most weeks? * Before starting this I have no idea on contracts and who owns his contract to race in the UK or how moving to another track is conducted. Also, sorry Wolves fans. Tai is one of, our only British talent, and it would be a shame to see him burn out if moving from Monday night racing to a midweek track was a possibility. That would give him some free Monday's to minimise possible burn out. (I assume he is not riding in Denmark?) Just a thought.... I am sure I am forgetting something obvious, but his lack of sleep between Poland, Wolves and Sweden surprised me. That's always been the life for many many speedway riders and is nothing new. In days gone by there were also less frequent flights and more driving with that often being done by the rider as well! The important thing to remember is that nobody forces them to do this - they sign the contracts and want the reward so have to deal with what that entails. I cannot feel sorry for them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packerman Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 All No. 1's averages have dipped this year. Tsi started slowly but got better. Same thing for Poole with Darcy as the heat leaders don't face as many rides against the 2nd strings& reserves Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 All No. 1's averages have dipped this year. Tsi started slowly but got better. Same thing for Poole with Darcy as the heat leaders don't face as many rides against the 2nd strings& reserves Tais didn't dip slightly. Im not sure it "got better2 either. He was crap in the EL but managed to do ok in the GP, Sweden and Poland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheReturn Posted September 24, 2014 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Boot this prat out of british speedway - if he was a foreigner hed get slated left right and centre Poles who miss el meetings get slated but usually because their riding in poland, same with swedes so whats woffidens excuse? Showed zero commitment to wolves this season - get rid . With fans like you, I would encourage him to walk away. What about last year when he rode through pain to be fair to his clubs? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 All No. 1's averages have dipped this year. Tsi started slowly but got better. Same thing for Poole with Darcy as the heat leaders don't face as many rides against the 2nd strings& reserves No they haven't. Iversen and Doyle have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickthemuppet Posted September 24, 2014 Report Share Posted September 24, 2014 Id like elite league to run on one specific night maybe monday all have proven they can ride mondays by sky meetings. They wouldnt need to change schedule. Ride each other once home and away giving riders not as many meetings to come over for. Bring back the elite KOC for some more racing for fans maybe ridden every so often instead of all at once. Bit logical for me anyone think this could work? Also with not as many meetings might tempt a couple of big riders back, maybe increase pts limit for the top 5 ? Or seperate pts limit for hestleaders and second strings would be cool IMO Of course it would not work. . Half the people would not go to the matches on a Monday night when live speedway is on Sky. Even Belle Vue do not want to ride on a Monday night. Then what do you do when somebody gets injured. Take last mondays match of Belle Vue v Peterborough. Who do you suggest replace Neils Iversen and Kenneth Bjerre. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 Of course it would not work. . Half the people would not go to the matches on a Monday night when live speedway is on Sky. Even Belle Vue do not want to ride on a Monday night. Then what do you do when somebody gets injured. Take last mondays match of Belle Vue v Peterborough. Who do you suggest replace Neils Iversen and Kenneth Bjerre. Except it already does work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 25, 2014 Report Share Posted September 25, 2014 GP/Euro riders generally do not want regular Monday night racing in UK. The occasional Sky meeting is ok to fit in their schedules - but NOT every week!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 valve Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 The answer is Elite league race nights on Thursday & Friday - no PL on those days. When there is a GP on the Saturday no meetings on Friday for EL. I could take longer to explain why this is the best answer for all concerned but if you think through the probems and recognise the solutions that could be established then EL will go from strength to strenghth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 Would PL promoters agree to that, I think not!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 The answer is Elite league race nights on Thursday & Friday - no PL on those days. When there is a GP on the Saturday no meetings on Friday for EL. I could take longer to explain why this is the best answer for all concerned but if you think through the probems and recognise the solutions that could be established then EL will go from strength to strenghth. It has to be a Wednesday/Thursday option. Fridays are as much as a 'no go' as weekends for the EL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2014 Report Share Posted September 26, 2014 The answer is Elite league race nights on Thursday & Friday - no PL on those days. When there is a GP on the Saturday no meetings on Friday for EL. I could take longer to explain why this is the best answer for all concerned but if you think through the probems and recognise the solutions that could be established then EL will go from strength to strenghth. I am sure as PL cubs running on a Thursday both Sheffield and Ipswich would be happy to comply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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