MrMungo Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Okay, okay, okay, StarFever! I get it. No need to tell me about 7 times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not to forget David Howe although he still turned out to be a good rider. Its hard to tell in speedway sometimes who would make it World Class from a young age. Darcy Ward and Joe Screen sprung to mind whereas Leigh Adams seem to take a long time to make it consisently at the top IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) Sorry about the repeats. Each time that I tried to post anything yesterday it failed to appear. I have not seen any further info on Charles Wright. Same thing happened to me (and others - looking at the amount of repeats lol). I assume there must have been a problem in the forum somewhere.... Okay, okay, okay, StarFever! I get it. No need to tell me about 7 times! HaHaHa .. sorry! See above ^^ So on the previous visit we won because we gated better and it was only 50/50 monday but we only won because there would have been more passing if the track had been like it was on the previous visit!! Lol no - you missed my point. I'm not detracting from your win on Monday, just suggesting Lynn didn't have much of a chance due to the track conditions. You won on previous visit because you were far better than Lynn out of the gate, but at least there was some good racing as we tried to overtake you! This time the track was impossible to do that on as shown by there being hardly a pass after 1st bend AND as Lynn were gating in 50% of the heats it affected Poole riders too. The result would've possibly been just the same on Monday if the track was like your previous visit but it'd have been nice to have seen Lynn (or indeed the Pirates) actually RACE for their points rather than just 'gate and go' Edited October 2, 2014 by Star Fever 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Same thing happened to me (and others - looking at the amount of repeats lol). I assume there must have been a problem in the forum somewhere.... HaHaHa .. sorry! See above ^^ Lol no - you missed my point. I'm not detracting from your win on Monday, just suggesting Lynn didn't have much of a chance due to the track conditions. You won on previous visit because you were far better than Lynn out of the gate, but at least there was some good racing as we tried to overtake you! This time the track was impossible to do that on as shown by there being hardly a pass after 1st bend AND as Lynn were gating in 50% of the heats it affected Poole riders too. The result would've possibly been just the same on Monday if the track was like your previous visit but it'd have been nice to have seen Lynn (or indeed the Pirates) actually RACE for their points rather than just 'gate and go' Personally i too would have preferred a postponement despite having travelled a long way, riding on a track like that is never good but in my opinion most of my visits in the last couple of years have been gate and go so the track may have not been the leveller you think but still would have been nice to see some battles and a bit of passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Wow Gater1 your logics are strange! Craig Cook ride in the World Cup last year and did poorly but was in the 5 riders this year. He has represented his country on the gp stage. He has finished 4th and 2nd in the last 2 British Finals. That in anyone's world makes him an international! So in your mind the only internationals we have are Tai Harris and Nicholls. Kennett, Barker King Bridger Stead are also internationals! Lambert isn't as he hasn't represented his country at senior level. It's like saying a footballer isn't an international if he only has one cap when quite clearly he is! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Personally i too would have preferred a postponement despite having travelled a long way, riding on a track like that is never good but in my opinion most of my visits in the last couple of years have been gate and go so the track may have not been the leveller you think but still would have been nice to see some battles and a bit of passing. Maybe.. maybe not. Unfortunately we'll never know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Gavan for the record Cook Pulled out of the SWC this year and was replaced by Richie Worrall on the day - he may have represented his country but that does not make him the second best rider in Team GB...............Simon Stead and Danny King are far better on their day......... As for young Lambert..........I will reserve judgement until I have seen him ride live.........was working late both times Lynn were at Poole this season........... RP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Not getting steamed up about it I just don't understand all the praise No you are wrong. 1 meeting doesn't make you Britain's number 2. Cook is not an international rider. Cook rode in 1 meeting and poorly I might add and then Cookie got dumped. No, I'm not wrong. It's a FACT. It makes zero difference how much you troll, stamp your feet or act like an attention seeking child, Craig Cook is British Number 2 and an International. Gavan for the record Cook Pulled out of the SWC this year and was replaced by Richie Worrall on the day - he may have represented his country but that does not make him the second best rider in Team GB...............Simon Stead and Danny King are far better on their day......... As for young Lambert..........I will reserve judgement until I have seen him ride live.........was working late both times Lynn were at Poole this season........... RP Many riders can be 'better on their day' than others.... but that is irrelevant. What matters is what they do on the right day. In this case, the British Final. Craig Cook was 2nd, so is the British Number 2. Leigh Adams was far better than Nicki Pedersen on his day.. however Nicki Pedersen was World No 1 3 times, Leigh Adams wasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Panda Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 No, I'm not wrong. It's a FACT. It makes zero difference how much you troll, stamp your feet or act like an attention seeking child, Craig Cook is British Number 2 and an International. Many riders can be 'better on their day' than others.... but that is irrelevant. What matters is what they do on the right day. In this case, the British Final. Craig Cook was 2nd, so is the British Number 2. Leigh Adams was far better than Nicki Pedersen on his day.. however Nicki Pedersen was World No 1 3 times, Leigh Adams wasn't. He may have been second in the British Final but if he is the second best rider in Britain why was he not in the SWC team proper and not at reserve and then pulled out............ RP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 He may have been second in the British Final but if he is the second best rider in Britain why was he not in the SWC team proper and not at reserve and then pulled out............ RP The claim was he is British number 2. He was 2nd in the British final so that claim is true. Nobody has said he is Britains second best rider, thats something else. But his EL average and British final result would say that along with Bomber and Scott he could stake a claim to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWitcher Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 1 cap doesn't make you an international. Believe what you want at the end of the day Woffinden, Harris, Nicholls, Stead & King are all ahead of Cook. 1 good meeting doesn't mean your Britain's number 2. Yes it does. And again yes it does, just not in your trolling world. You're arguing against facts, which means only one thing, you're trolling. Again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavan Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 1 cap doesn't make you an international. Believe what you want at the end of the day Woffinden, Harris, Nicholls, Stead & King are all ahead of Cook. 1 good meeting doesn't mean your Britain's number 2. stop talking out of your arse! of course one cap makes you an international!!! what planet you on???? The title British Number Two is held this season by Craig Cook. Maybe in your world we should rewrite history In 1973 Jerzy whatever his name isn't World Champion because it was a one off and quite clearly Mauger was the better rider. Leigh Adams never one a world title but in my eyes he is a better rider than Mark Loram was. Andy Smith should never have been british Champion 3 times in a row when quite clearly riders like Havelock Screen Louis and Loram were around who were better Yes King and Stead and Harris and Nicholls will beat Cook as much as he beats them and personally I cant stand Cook But face facts and stop your trolling its quite pathetic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Beevers Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 stop talking out of your arse! In 1973 Jerzy whatever his name isn't World Champion because it was a one off and quite clearly Mauger was the better rider. This is an endless debate in a way because there will also be a wouldashouldacoulda. This rider won this meeting on this day. This rider rode better this track all his life and took advantage of a championship he was in on this track. This rider had this tuner for 6 months and won more GPs then a rider who averaged 3 points more per league meeting. But history remains the same. Fact is Jerzy was World Champion even though the smart opinion would say he wasn't the best rider the whole year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevebrum Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Just some big Robert up so much so I compared Robert to Bartosz's ability at the age of 16. I agree and I have stated many of time that I think Lambert is a good rider but I have also stated that Robert is over rated. I agree but 1 good ride a meeting is not good enough because it puts so much pressure on the big boys. I think Robert has done ok but nothing special as I pointed out the other day you only need to beat FTR's to score 4 points a meeting as a second string. Also yes Robert has improved his average but near enough every second string rider has improved there averages and have now some have become heat leaders. With that evidence it sais to me that its easy to win second string races. Robert will never be as good as Woffy in fact I don't even think Robert will get to Chris Harris's level. You cant compare the two anyway because Zmarzlik rode as a protected reserve and Lambert rode in the main body. As already stated Zmarzlik is STILL inconsistent. He scored 3 a couple of weeks back despite his heroics on the World stage. I don't think anyone is comparing riders or should do either. Having had the pleasure to watch Lambert i see a very special talent emerging. If he continues to develop as he is he will quickly become GB`s no2 rider (in the next 2 seasons) IMHO. The only comparison you can make of Bart and Lambert is they have had some stunning rides this year that belie their age. 1 cap doesn't make you an international. Yes it does. You have to score well you just have to have been selected. Facts i am afraid that cant be argued. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Star Fever Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 (edited) With Woffinden being world champion and Harris also in the GP they are Britain's #1 & #2 I'd have thought? Alternatively if you look at the top 20 EL averages for 2014 Harris is top Brit followed by Nicholls then Woffy, Bridger, Lawson & Stead. Cook isn't even mentioned. Cook finishing 2nd in the British Final means just that - he was 2nd in the British Final, nothing else - it's hardly an indication of rank! Edited October 2, 2014 by Star Fever 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whippy Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 ........ I thought this was a KL v Poole thread ????? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trees Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 (edited) It'll come back lol Question is, is Charles Wright gonna be fit for Monday? Edited October 3, 2014 by Trees Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreverblue Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 It'll come back lol Question is, is Charles Wright gonna be fit for Monday? Don't see any reason why not, a bit sore and bruised but nothing broken and i am sure he would like to prove he is at least as good as Kyle Newman who also missed his last meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveLyric2 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 It'll come back lol Question is, is Charles Wright gonna be fit for Monday? Maybe better asked on one of the Poole v Kings Lynn threads?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Don't see any reason why not, a bit sore and bruised but nothing broken and i am sure he would like to prove he is at least as good as Kyle Newman who also missed his last meeting. The fact he didnt ride for his own team last night maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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