SCB Posted February 5, 2015 Report Share Posted February 5, 2015 this situation gets more ridiculous every day, how come gp stars like hancock, doyle, and holder will be allowed to fly in for the gp, have their 5/6/7 rides, pick up their money, then fly out? Yeah, thats comparable. Because them top class guys can come in to ride a GP then Mason Campton and Taylor Poole should get team places. When Campton and Poole make the GPs (in fact, long before that TBF - just top 4 in a state final!) they will be allowed work permit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Can you imagine the furore if Man Utd were told they couldn't sign the likes of Rafael or Di Maria, or Chelsea's Ramires and Luis were sent packing back to Brazil because they "weren't talented enough to be given preference over English players"? The whole situation is ridiculous and laughable, and if speedway stands for it we should all hang our heads in shame. They are talented enough though and the criteria for them players to gain a work permit is as follows : Work permits will only be issued to international football players of the highest calibre who will be able to make a significant contribution to the development of the game of football in the United Kingdom at the highest level. How is it established that the player is an international player of the highest calibre? In order to establish on an initial application that the player is an international player of the highest calibre the following criteria must be met: A player must have player for his country in at least 75% of its competitive A team matches of which he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application The player’s country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application So stop making out speedway is being singled out and that Aussies are being treated unfairly, it is just the way it is. I would love to see Taylor Poole back in Tigers colours next year but rules are rules and it has always been the case and is the case with every sport when it comes to getting players/riders from outside the EU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4thbender Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 They are talented enough though and the criteria for them players to gain a work permit is as follows : Work permits will only be issued to international football players of the highest calibre who will be able to make a significant contribution to the development of the game of football in the United Kingdom at the highest level. How is it established that the player is an international player of the highest calibre? In order to establish on an initial application that the player is an international player of the highest calibre the following criteria must be met: A player must have player for his country in at least 75% of its competitive A team matches of which he was available for selection, during the two years preceding the date of the application The player’s country must be at or above 70th place in the official FIFA world rankings when averaged over the two years preceding the date of the application So stop making out speedway is being singled out and that Aussies are being treated unfairly, it is just the way it is. I would love to see Taylor Poole back in Tigers colours next year but rules are rules and it has always been the case and is the case with every sport when it comes to getting players/riders from outside the EU. In my long experience, people who use the saying "rules are rules" do so because they cannot justify why the rule exists in the first place. Can you tell me any justification for excluding citizens of the British Commonwealth from coming to practice their profession on these shores whilst allowing free and unfettered entry to anyone and everyone from the so-called European Union (European Dis-union would be a more accurate title)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 In my long experience, people who use the saying "rules are rules" do so because they cannot justify why the rule exists in the first place. Can you tell me any justification for excluding citizens of the British Commonwealth from coming to practice their profession on these shores whilst allowing free and unfettered entry to anyone and everyone from the so-called European Union (European Dis-union would be a more accurate title)? I can't justify it and not doing so, I think it is stupid as much as anyone else but the rules have always been there and until that changes then there is not much we can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenga Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Proctor qualifies for his work permit by reaching the required average in the EL. Poole average never once reached 7.00 throughout the season and should be told no. if ty get the nod, will he be able to ride in the pl or will he have to ride in the el. . his average in the el qualifies him to ride over here . but in what league. if ty rides in the pl this season and does not get a 7 point average, then it toast for him returning the following year. unless he gets into the top 4 in aus.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 if ty get the nod, will he be able to ride in the pl or will he have to ride in the el. . his average in the el qualifies him to ride over here . but in what league. if ty rides in the pl this season and does not get a 7 point average, then it toast for him returning the following year. unless he gets into the top 4 in aus.. He can ride both Elite & Premier because he has qualified to work over here with average he achieved in Elite League ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 He can ride both Elite & Premier because he has qualified to work over here with average he achieved in Elite League !but not both anymore??... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 but not both anymore??... yes both because he is allowed to come and work over here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 (edited) yes both because he is allowed to come and work over here.thought the sponsorship licence only allowed one these days.... Or is that a tier 5 visa?? Ala Doyle last year. Edited February 6, 2015 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyK86 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 thought the sponsorship licence only allowed one these days.... Or is that a tier 5 visa?? Ala Doyle last year. Not sure on that front but he has only signed for Sheffield anyway so far ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCB Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Work permit riders cannot double up. Thats been quite clearly established now I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EIS002 Posted February 6, 2015 Report Share Posted February 6, 2015 Work permit riders cannot double up. Thats been quite clearly established now I think. Ty cannot double up PL/EL but has also signed for a Danish club as per press release before Xmas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Anybody got an idea as to when we are likely to find out whether we have 5, 6 or 7 eligible riders signed for the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dontforgetthefueltapsbruv Posted February 10, 2015 Report Share Posted February 10, 2015 Anybody got an idea as to when we are likely to find out whether we have 5, 6 or 7 eligible riders signed for the season?it could be 4 days , it could be 4 weeks.Hopefully its closer to the first one for all teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowman Posted February 11, 2015 Report Share Posted February 11, 2015 Anybody got an idea as to when we are likely to find out whether we have 5, 6 or 7 eligible riders signed for the season? It could be 5, 6 or 7 days; it could be 5, 6 or 7 weeks. Sorry, much more than less helpful I know but I couldn't resist after '...bruv's reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FAST GATER Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 This could mean that Andre may get one last season has he been on a bike since his" big off "? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cue Ball Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 He hasn't as far as I know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taylorj Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 Anybody got an idea as to when we are likely to find out whether we have 5, 6 or 7 eligible riders signed for the season? So I take it going by this that apart from Worky that have already changed the team due to visa issues, the likes of Taylor Poole are not definately allowed over here as yet ?? . 5 weeks until the season start teams seem to be leaving things late Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geepeeargh Posted February 12, 2015 Report Share Posted February 12, 2015 S*T*A*R*S social evening tonight at the new Barrack Tavern, Penistone Road, Sheffield. Ty Proctor, Josh Bates and new signing Arthur Sissis are intending to joins us so please come along for our last pre-season chat. Everyone is welcome. Geoff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS50 Posted February 17, 2015 Report Share Posted February 17, 2015 S*T*A*R*S social evening tonight at the new Barrack Tavern, Penistone Road, Sheffield. Ty Proctor, Josh Bates and new signing Arthur Sissis are intending to joins us so please come along for our last pre-season chat. Everyone is welcome. Geoff Any news come out of this gathering?. I presume if Proctor was present he must be confident of his team place this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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