ruffdiamond Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 There are links on the BSF which will take you straight to the interview. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tyne-34154147 thanks guys, seen it on 'sky plus',,, 'screm' might wanna have a look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 5, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 all it takes is one rider to get injured early on and you have no chance,esp in a cup semi final.. whats the standard of the meeting got to do with it?? . cough cough Gws Matty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 cough cough Gws Matty. Bad cough you got there. Where was your rider coming from that we didn't sign. How cheap do you think Lambert was, as we did try to sign him. Would you have dropped Aarnio to reinstate Rose. Are you doubting Teo being injured. Who would you have put in the team instead of Carr last night, as George couldn't get one guest out of 17 riders, contacted even offering to fly one in but still no. Â Dead easy this forecasting lark on this site without actually doing it, isn't it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted September 5, 2015 Report Share Posted September 5, 2015 Could someone without an axe to grind please explain 1. Did Tero ride on Saturday, and 2. Just how 'injured' was Hanson? If either missed the q/f in order to be properly fit to ride for their home clubs, then fine, that is wholly understandable, if a tiny bit annoying from a partisan standpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted September 6, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) Bad cough you got there. Where was your rider coming from that we didn't sign. How cheap do you think Lambert was, as we did try to sign him. Would you have dropped Aarnio to reinstate Rose. Are you doubting Teo being injured. Who would you have put in the team instead of Carr last night, as George couldn't get one guest out of 17 riders, contacted even offering to fly one in but still no.  Dead easy this forecasting lark on this site without actually doing it, isn't it. easy boy easy i was originally saying carrying rider replacement for so long would eventually come a cropper thats all... But to answer the latest bombardment... 1, There have been umpteen riders available over the months to replace Rosen, Henry and Kerr. Almost all other teams found them ( do you want me to put a list up?)... Maybe they all were no good for us in one way or another though.  2, i dont think Lambert would be cheap at all if he was available, but nice to know we did try. Would Lambert and Say rose be much more than Kerr and Henry?? Money wise??  3,I wouldnt have dropped Aarnio for Rose no, id have put Rose in for Henry if at all possible, maybe it wasnt?.  4,No im not doubting Tero being injured??  5,i wouldnt have put anyone in for Carr as there was no one available as you say George exhausted all options available.  6, forecasting is easy yes, law of averages says if you ride with only 6 riders for months then one day you will end up with 5 or even 4 and have no chance what so ever of winning or keeping a meeting close, sods law if it happens in our biggest meeting of the season... Just an opinion Dave, we arnt all in the know like you so are left to guess, presume and forecast. Edited September 6, 2015 by Arson fire 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Kenneth crashed on Wednesday, he missed the Comets meeting on Thursday and your meeting on Friday in order to be as ready as he could be for Saturday, riding for his home team in front of his own fans. He had physio on Thursday and rested Friday. He came in after Heat 14 and said he couldn't do anymore but after a chat with Jacko he went out in 15 and did the business, he was and still is in a lot of discomfort. The Newcastle management will have known by Thursday morning at the latest that he wasn't available and had time to find someone else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Could someone without an axe to grind please explain 1. Did Tero ride on Saturday, and 2. Just how 'injured' was Hanson? If either missed the q/f in order to be properly fit to ride for their home clubs, then fine, that is wholly understandable, if a tiny bit annoying from a partisan standpoint. It looks like,going off photos and messages on Facebook, that Aarnio rode in a league meeting Finland on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 Kenneth crashed on Wednesday, he missed the Comets meeting on Thursday and your meeting on Friday in order to be as ready as he could be for Saturday, riding for his home team in front of his own fans. He had physio on Thursday and rested Friday. He came in after Heat 14 and said he couldn't do anymore but after a chat with Jacko he went out in 15 and did the business, he was and still is in a lot of discomfort. The Newcastle management will have known by Thursday morning at the latest that he wasn't available and had time to find someone else A fantasy statement given what I have posted above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Django Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 (edited) A fantasy statement given what I have posted above. it's not Kenneth's fault there were 17 riders unavailable. It's not like he dropped them in it on Friday afternoon Edited September 6, 2015 by DynamoDave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 A fantasy statement given what I have posted above. It's not fantasy at all, it's perfectly true that a day and a half should be enough to find another guest. The fact that there aren't enough riders or riders were unavailable is a different argument all together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 6, 2015 Report Share Posted September 6, 2015 A fantasy statement given what I have posted above. but what about Tero,,, could anybody from promotion, or 'in the know', confirm or deny if he did actually ride in Finland on Saturday afternoon ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 It's not fantasy at all, it's perfectly true that a day and a half should be enough to find another guest. The fact that there aren't enough riders or riders were unavailable is a different argument all together You are only assuming the George knew about him not being available first thing on Thursday morning. I repeat again, despite whatever time he was actually told of Kenneth's non availability, George was in contact with 17 riders in an attempt to get a guest for the Friday night. If you know different, and there was someone available, would you care to spill out the name you knew was available. It is not an equation of time span, it is a search for riders of a certain ability, being in a position to ride that night assuming their promoter would allow the rider to ride, given their upcoming series a meetings. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 You are only assuming the George knew about him not being available first thing on Thursday morning. I repeat again, despite whatever time he was actually told of Kenneth's non availability, George was in contact with 17 riders in an attempt to get a guest for the Friday night. If you know different, and there was someone available, would you care to spill out the name you knew was available. It is not an equation of time span, it is a search for riders of a certain ability, being in a position to ride that night assuming their promoter would allow the rider to ride, given their upcoming series a meetings. Correct Dave. Â The very idea that George would not try to organise a replacement Guest is ridiculous. He lives and breathes Newcastle Speedway. I very occasionally don't agree with some of his choices but his dedication to the 'Diamonds' s unquestionable. Â People need to remember that without George there would, in all probability, be no Speedway at Newcastle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJC71 Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Problem is clearly not George or anyone else not putting the effort in to find a guest it's a problem with a complete lack of riders and it's killing speedway in this country at all levels. Yes there are efforts to try and address that at junior/amateur level but that needs to be expanded/properly funded and will obviously take time to bear fruit with no guarantees. Â In the interim the Premier League have two options as I see it. Either introduce a fast-track system along the same lines of the Elite League by forcing PL clubs to include 1 or 2 NL riders each or if that won't work go to 6 man teams. God knows what the Elite League will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 You are only assuming the George knew about him not being available first thing on Thursday morning. I repeat again, despite whatever time he was actually told of Kenneth's non availability, George was in contact with 17 riders in an attempt to get a guest for the Friday night. If you know different, and there was someone available, would you care to spill out the name you knew was available. It is not an equation of time span, it is a search for riders of a certain ability, being in a position to ride that night assuming their promoter would allow the rider to ride, given their upcoming series a meetings. Â Â I am in no way saying George English didn't try his upmost to get the best possible guest for Newcastle, of course he did, but it is not Kenneth's fault that 17 riders were unavailable. In my first statement I was answering Ruffdiamond's question as to 'how injured Kenneth was', and he was genuinely injured, he missed our meeting as well as yours. We published an article on our website on Wednesday night so by Thursday morning it will have been known he was unavailable, so it wasn't a 'fantasy statement', 36 hours should be enough in normal circumstances to find a guest, the fact that it wasn't is of course annoying. Â I share everyone's frustrations about the lack of available riders, I was assisting Jacko in finding a guest for Matty when he crashed riding for yourselves on Friday leaving us the prospect of using a mid ranking NL guest until Ashley Morris kindly changed his plans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Comet Dan,,, emmmm when did I question 'how injured Kenneth was',,,, I commented on how he was performing on another thread, as far as I'm concerned its more to do about Tero, and if Newcastle actually know anything about a meeting in Finland on Saturday In my first statement I was answering Ruffdiamond's question as to 'how injured Kenneth was', Â I share everyone's frustrations about the lack of available riders, I was assisting Jacko in finding a guest for Matty when he crashed riding for yourselves on Friday leaving us the prospect of using a mid ranking NL guest until Ashley Morris kindly changed his plans. see, guest finding isn't so hard for some,,, Edited September 8, 2015 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comet Dan Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Apologies Ruffdiamond, I was answering HadrianDog's question  Getting my Geordie's mixed up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Apologies Ruffdiamond, I was answering HadrianDog's question Getting my Geordie's mixed up accepted mate that statement could quite easily have tarnished my reputation, or at least taken the shine off it anyway Edited September 8, 2015 by ruffdiamond 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The White Knight Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Apologies Ruffdiamond, I was answering HadrianDog's question  Getting my Geordie's mixed up Easy done - however - they (Geordies) are usually the ones with their knuckles dragging along the ground.  I hope this helps with your identification problems in the future Comet Dan. :rofl:       Only kidding Geordies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Easy done - however - they (Geordies) are usually the ones with their knuckles dragging along the ground. Â I hope this helps with your identification problems in the future Comet Dan. :rofl: Â Only kidding Geordies. you wanna watch what your saying, or ye might find 1 of them 'dragging' their knuckles out of your fat gob 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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