Newcastle 2015

[HadrianDog]

good news,,, so that's Lewy Kerr at no.1, he's maybe not an out n out no.1 (yet), but he's a no.1,,, :-

 

I hope that's in a good sense and not a suggestion he rides like p??? Humour aside, its good news, providing he can maintain his average. I just hope we ain't done to the Kerminator what we did to Ludo last season.

[HadrianDog]

On a cynical note, was being our number 1 a proviso for Kerr signing- just a Jack Daniel's fuelled thought. If so def. worth it imo.

[Cupidstunt]

There is no way Kerr is a number 1 in the PL, yes he is a good rider but his average is based on his home form at Newcastle mostly, he won't go to many away tracks and win against number 1'and 5,s like King and Tungate at Ipswich, Stead and Proctor at Sheffield, Lawson and Morris at Glasgow, Cooke and Masters at Edinburgh, Josh G and Kurtz at Somerset, ostergaard and Allen at Peterborough he would more Than likely struggle against all of the teams mentioned 3rd heat leader aswell, I can't see much back up either in Steve Worrall again a rider who got a false average last year riding at reserve for Edinburgh who if you look at his scores when he came out of reserve weren't that great at second string. But what do I know, it may work out for them hope it does as both riders are young and English and have been given a chance over old over the hill foreign riders like Dryml for example

[HadrianDog]

There is no way Kerr is a number 1 in the PL, yes he is a good rider but his average is based on his home form at Newcastle mostly, he won't go to many away tracks and win against number 1'and 5,s like King and Tungate at Ipswich, Stead and Proctor at Sheffield, Lawson and Morris at Glasgow, Cooke and Masters at Edinburgh, Josh G and Kurtz at Somerset, ostergaard and Allen at Peterborough he would more Than likely struggle against all of the teams mentioned 3rd heat leader aswell, I can't see much back up either in Steve Worrall again a rider who got a false average last year riding at reserve for Edinburgh who if you look at his scores when he came out of reserve weren't that great at second string. But what do I know, it may work out for them hope it does as both riders are young and English and have been given a chance over old over the hill foreign riders like Dryml for example

 

Like it, but have his same miss-givings. Fingers crossed that this seasons 'strength in depth' will work.

[TheScotsman]

But what do I know

You said it!

[CaptainAudi]

who if you look at his scores when he came out of reserve weren't that great at second string.

That's a bit unfair on Stevie, considering he hit his average in most of his meetings immediately after moving up (first month and a half or so) The only reason IMO he didn't keep it up was due to burning out, and even then he wasn't scoring poorly.

 

I agree it is unlikely to go any higher as a heat leader, if he's used as one, but as a second string he would do fine.

[NJC71]

Personally I’m not as obsessed with having a big hitting number 1 as some. We introduced one last season and were arguably weaker after the change as the balance of the team wasn’t right elsewhere.

 

That said I do have reservations. If it is to be Henry and a 3 pointer the team will be very similar to the one that started last season but arguably slightly weaker with Steve in for Robbo and the 3 pointer for Schramm.

 

Lewis Kerr and Lewis Rose will though have the benefit of a further season behind them, expectations on Anton probably won’t be as high as they were 12 months ago and Steve, although definitely on a false average is still young and improving so there is plenty of scope for improvement.

 

It will definitely be tough for Lewis if he is to line up at number 1. That means he will have to ride 2 or 3 times against the opposition top 2. He will though have either Henry (if signed) or Rosen alongside him at number 2 so it’s hardly a bad pairing. I’m sure he’ll be up for it but it is a big ask.

 

With such potentially weak heat leaders the strength of this side will have to be its depth so it is vital we get a decent reserve alongside Lewis Rose and that the rest of the side perform consistently well. We certainly won’t be able to carry anybody as a lack of last places and strength in heats 2, 8 and 14 will have to offset the lack of firepower. Without mentioning names, one or two riders who have a tendency to not perform on occasions will have to rid that from their game if this side is to do well.

 

Also worth remembering that crowds are in the hundreds not the thousands these days and this side will no doubt have been built within a modest budget.

 

My gut feeling is that this side will finish mid table at best unless someone like Lewis Kerr has a massive year and puts 2 points on his average or Lewis Rose does something special from reserve but as ever avoiding injury will be just as important. Time will tell.

[acclennell]

That's a bit unfair on Stevie, considering he hit his average in most of his meetings immediately after moving up (first month and a half or so) The only reason IMO he didn't keep it up was due to burning out, and even then he wasn't scoring poorly.

 

I agree it is unlikely to go any higher as a heat leader, if he's used as one, but as a second string he would do fine.

 

Personally I’m not as obsessed with having a big hitting number 1 as some. We introduced one last season and were arguably weaker after the change as the balance of the team wasn’t right elsewhere.

 

That said I do have reservations. If it is to be Henry and a 3 pointer the team will be very similar to the one that started last season but arguably slightly weaker with Steve in for Robbo and the 3 pointer for Schramm.

 

Lewis Kerr and Lewis Rose will though have the benefit of a further season behind them, expectations on Anton probably won’t be as high as they were 12 months ago and Steve, although definitely on a false average is still young and improving so there is plenty of scope for improvement.

 

It will definitely be tough for Lewis if he is to line up at number 1. That means he will have to ride 2 or 3 times against the opposition top 2. He will though have either Henry (if signed) or Rosen alongside him at number 2 so it’s hardly a bad pairing. I’m sure he’ll be up for it but it is a big ask.

 

With such potentially weak heat leaders the strength of this side will have to be its depth so it is vital we get a decent reserve alongside Lewis Rose and that the rest of the side perform consistently well. We certainly won’t be able to carry anybody as a lack of last places and strength in heats 2, 8 and 14 will have to offset the lack of firepower. Without mentioning names, one or two riders who have a tendency to not perform on occasions will have to rid that from their game if this side is to do well.

 

Also worth remembering that crowds are in the hundreds not the thousands these days and this side will no doubt have been built within a modest budget.

 

My gut feeling is that this side will finish mid table at best unless someone like Lewis Kerr has a massive year and puts 2 points on his average or Lewis Rose does something special from reserve but as ever avoiding injury will be just as important. Time will tell.

Totally agree - a very long season in progress me thinks and not a chance of winning anything - in my opinion a very disappointing line up. I will be the first to hold my hands up if I'm wrong but I can see further changes in June/July as with the year just gone. Can't understand signing a second string on a 7 plus average who has never looked comfortable at Brough

Edited December 23, 2014 by acclennell

[DiamondsRock]

It's not about what team lines up at the start of the season, it's all about what team lines up at the end of the season.

 

That being said, looking pretty weak atm.

[dontforgetthefueltapsbruv]

Looking at it from outside Rose is the key.

 

If he kicks on you dont need an out and out no1.

Rose averaging 6 would mean a super strong reserve and balance out the top if the no1 stays in the 7s.

 

Wouldnt matter which of the main 5 were at 1so long as that happens or if one of the main 5 drops to reserve.

 

Dont forget even if Worrall averages 7.5 initially his rolling average will drop as he drops the bigger scores from the start of last year.

 

Looks a solid team to me and would expect it to be competitive.

[robbieblackadder fan club]

Have to say in my opinion a poor side put together with a lack of imagination and not one that will tempt me back on a regular basis as already said Kerr is not a no 1 and will struggle in heats 13&15 and Worrall is not a heat leader and has never really got to grips with enough..we have in effect replaced king and Robson with Worrall and rosen....doesn't add up.....but it's all about opinions

[Ben91]

In about 2001/2 I was trying to get James Wright for the Gems, and I was told go for Charlie instead, he is a better rider. Took a few years, like 10 years, but they were right eventually.

Until Charles Wright becomes a PL number one and wins a PLRC I'd say they were wrong. Agree that Charles did look set to go further then his brother though and has been a slow burner but finally looks like he's getting towards where people thought he may go.

 

Finish the 5 named so far with Nielsen and Henry and it is a solid if unspectacular line up. Similar feel to Hull's side from 2004, no out and out top man but strong throughout the order.

 

Kerr has improved season on season, there's nothing to suggest he won't continue to do so. If Rose can kick on and the top 5 pull their weight you could be looking at a title challenge again.

[acclennell]

Have to say in my opinion a poor side put together with a lack of imagination and not one that will tempt me back on a regular basis as already said Kerr is not a no 1 and will struggle in heats 13&15 and Worrall is not a heat leader and has never really got to grips with enough..we have in effect replaced king and Robson with Worrall and rosen....doesn't add up.....but it's all about opinions

I honestly can't believe the team and is a disaster in the making, I was right last year and this team like you will certainly not have me attending on a regular basis either. I'm here to be proven wrong but I'm pretty certain I won't be.

[Chewbacca]

Built to have a vey strong reserve who can take 7 rides if a top 5 rider is having a mare. Doesn't look top side but potential significant improvement from Rose, Rosen and Kerr could make it into one.

[jackofdiamonds]

If Christian Henry's average is 6.61, that's too high as it leaves just 2.93 left. If we are after a decent no.7, a 5ish rider is needed. Perhaps an EU on 5.

[StevePark]

If Christian Henry's average is 6.61, that's too high as it leaves just 2.93 left. If we are after a decent no.7, a 5ish rider is needed. Perhaps an EU on 5.

 

Don't forget the slight reductions for the two Lewis's and Steve Worrall.

[Arson fire]

If Christian Henry's average is 6.61, that's too high as it leaves just 2.93 left. If we are after a decent no.7, a 5ish rider is needed. Perhaps an EU on 5.

its 6.24, then kerr, rose and worrall may get reductions of 2.5% Edited December 23, 2014 by Arson fire

[highside]

A nice young team could go either way ,fingers crossed its up not down .

[ruffdiamond]

 

good news,,, so that's Lewy Kerr at no.1, he's maybe not an out n out no.1 (yet), but he's a no.1,,, :-

 

I hope that's in a good sense and not a suggestion he rides like p??? Humour aside, its good news, providing he can maintain his average. I just hope we ain't done to the Kerminator what we did to Ludo last season.

 

 

well,,, you can take me out of the 'we',,, but I think he has the potential to do well at no.1,,, slightly worried about Steve, but happy with the way it's looking :-)

[cyclone]

I'm surprised by the negative comments re Steve Worrall on here.

 

Having seen him riding home & away for the Monarchs, he was a smooth performer who formed a good partnership with Max Fricke when he moved up to number 4.

 

He is a good gater who goes about his business effectively and I would not be surprised if he raises his average further in 2015, given it appears he will be reducing his workload by no longer having NL commitments.