Tsunami Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 I remember a lad who played along side Alan Shearer when they were younger,,, he was gonna be the best thing and Alan was'nt,,, dunno what went wrong, but I think the lad still work's at the Ministry at Benton :-( NO, Arson never worked at the Ministry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 In about 2001/2 I was trying to get James Wright for the Gems, and I was told go for Charlie instead, he is a better rider. Took a few years, like 10 years, but they were right eventually. Was that not also true about Peter Beadsley and his brother.(similar to Gazza). Is that 'insignificant' in that the agreed rate for new Aussies was 7, but it was not reviewed for a few years, and then collectively, the BSPA thought, and most people still think they were right, that it was too high and we operated a 4 for new entrants. That operated fairly for a number of years, but unknown to Speedway, the UKBA were collating the situation regarding new riders entering the country and illegally riding second halfs, and we were called to account for the breach of the old agreed rate. The UKBA have insisted on the return of the old rate, despite the BSPA and many learned poster on here, that 4 is more correct average instead of the original 7. The BSPA were trying to reach agreement with UKBA to drop it to the fairer average of 4, but it would look like the BSPA has read the signals and decided it would be in the sports interest to revert back to the 7, hence the return to the 7 for both Jack H and J Allen. As others have said on here, the 7 average is too high and, conditions attached to that decision, mean we could see a great reduction in the number of OZ riders in this country, before the push for new Brits has started to produce the number of quality Brits to make up the numbers we need for the leagues in the future. Since the 4 was introduced , how many OZ riders would not have been risked on a 7 had that ruling been adhered to. ronnie or geordie?? I knew ronnie really well but never seen him play, died earlier this year sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 ronnie or geordie?? I knew ronnie really well but never seen him play, died earlier this year sadly. It was the one who was a bit unfit and heavy. He used o come with a team from Longbenton and play on the top 5 a side pitches at B/Flames. Think he had blond hair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 NO, Arson never worked at the Ministry. do you mean,,, Arson never worked at the Ministry, or Arson was employed at the Ministry, but did'nt do any work ??? but anyway,no,,, a did'nt mean him,,, a dunno him :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the muck man Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Henry, S.Worral, S.Nielsen will complete the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 Henry, S.Worral, S.Nielsen will complete the team.you've already told us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justgotmecpc Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 when Gazza was younger his brother Carl was thought a better talent.... Gazza made it Carl didnt.... Means diddly squat at the end of the day. like you n your paul ha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 like you n your paul ha aye haha... I did share the same showers with shilton, saunders and wright for a few months but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the muck man Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 you've already told us yes i know and you are talking a load of **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 yes i know and you are talking a load of ****you're worse than the bbc for repeats 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the muck man Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 you're worse than the bbc for repeats SPEEDWAY FORUM or has it changed to something else ?, why dont u start a new post so who ever wants to talk **** can join u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 SPEEDWAY FORUM or has it changed to something else ?, why dont u start a new post so who ever wants to talk **** can join u.haStu ya funny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the muck man Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 haStu ya funny Stu ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 (edited) Stu ? no need im straight to the point?? Are you in the know then?? Edited December 21, 2014 by Arson fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted December 21, 2014 Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 In about 2001/2 I was trying to get James Wright for the Gems, and I was told go for Charlie instead, he is a better rider. Took a few years, like 10 years, but they were right eventually. Was that not also true about Peter Beadsley and his brother.(similar to Gazza). Is that 'insignificant' in that the agreed rate for new Aussies was 7, but it was not reviewed for a few years, and then collectively, the BSPA thought, and most people still think they were right, that it was too high and we operated a 4 for new entrants. That operated fairly for a number of years, but unknown to Speedway, the UKBA were collating the situation regarding new riders entering the country and illegally riding second halfs, and we were called to account for the breach of the old agreed rate. The UKBA have insisted on the return of the old rate, despite the BSPA and many learned poster on here, that 4 is more correct average instead of the original 7. The BSPA were trying to reach agreement with UKBA to drop it to the fairer average of 4, but it would look like the BSPA has read the signals and decided it would be in the sports interest to revert back to the 7, hence the return to the 7 for both Jack H and J Allen. As others have said on here, the 7 average is too high and, conditions attached to that decision, mean we could see a great reduction in the number of OZ riders in this country, before the push for new Brits has started to produce the number of quality Brits to make up the numbers we need for the leagues in the future. Since the 4 was introduced , how many OZ riders would not have been risked on a 7 had that ruling been adhered to. Very informative post, Tsunami. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2014 It was the one who was a bit unfit and heavy. He used o come with a team from Longbenton and play on the top 5 a side pitches at B/Flames. Think he had blond hair. aye that was ronnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnieg Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 (edited) Tsunami 's post is very revealing, in that it shows how out of touch the BSPA are. Firstly they seem to think the assessed averages are set in order to enable foreign riders to come over on a fair average when they are in fact set in order to satisfy the UKBA that a minimal number of non EU riders come to ride here. Secondly it appears that they believe the BSPA ( a private club) has more authority than the UKBA - a Government agency carrying out the will of the people (in this case restricting the number of foreigners working here). Edited December 22, 2014 by arnieg 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KEITH M Posted December 22, 2014 Report Share Posted December 22, 2014 NO, Arson never worked at the Ministry. Dave... He said along side Shearer not Milburn ;-) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 SpeedwayGB @SpeedwayGB 10m10 minutes ago NEWCASTLE- Steve Worrall will return to the 2015 Diamonds line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruffdiamond Posted December 23, 2014 Report Share Posted December 23, 2014 (edited) good news,,, so that's Lewy Kerr at no.1, he's maybe not an out n out no.1 (yet), but he's a no.1,,, :-) Edited December 23, 2014 by ruffdiamond Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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