Robinh88 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Agree with you on Allen I think Barker will be over 9 I take it you haven't whitnessed TJ around Berwick? What a complete mess of team-building we have made presuming Allen is a 7 Especailly after it seemed we had a winning formula in 2014 Edited January 7, 2015 by GLagutaWorldChampion2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) There's no point in sugar coating it, Jake Allens Aussie Champs scores have been less than impressive Edited January 7, 2015 by Shads 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crescent girl Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Especailly after it seemed we had a winning formula in 2014 A formula you spent most of the year slagging off.... There's no point in sugar coating it, Jake Allens Aussie Champs scores have been less than impressive Jake Allen is currently the 'best of the rest' -- the leading scorer amoug those Aussie Title contesetants who have yet to race overseas. He is worth the punt, given the alternative would be to use other people's ageing assets. Hopefully on five, but even on seven. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Jake Allen is currently the 'best of the rest' -- the leading scorer amoug those Aussie Title contesetants who have yet to race overseas. He is worth the punt, given the alternative would be to use other people's ageing assets. Hopefully on five, but even on seven. Still a definate yes from me on jake, he is indeed the best of the rest. He will only be a 7.00 for 12 meetings then the team can strengthen and kick on with a much needed new asset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScotsman Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 What's the benefit of an asset when he can't get a new work permit if he doesn't hit a 7 in 2 years? In fact what's the benefit of an asset? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 What's the benefit of an asset when he can't get a new work permit if he doesn't hit a 7 in 2 years? In fact what's the benefit of an asset? But what if he does hit 7 in 2 years? The benifit of an asset is no loan fees and first call on them like Redcar had this year with Matej Kus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
screm Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Still a definate yes from me on jake, he is indeed the best of the rest. He will only be a 7.00 for 12 meetings then the team can strengthen and kick on with a much needed new asset. Last season Berwick raced their twelfth meeting that would qualify for averages towards the end of May, admittedly there were a number of rain offs that extended the date, something similar next season and one or two home defeats along the way while we carry Allen before strengthening would probably see our season virtually over. Its a gamble but I think Berwick will sign Allen, a new asset is very attractive, but they will need a reserve who will be a big scorer and capable of upping his average, something similar to Jensen or Kus while they were at reserve last season. It would be unrealistic to ask Barker to increase his average, he is a top rider with a top average, Jorgensen will take time to settle and his starting average is good, no disrespect to Edberg or Doolan but can anyone see any significant increase in their averages, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadders Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Jake Allen is currently the 'best of the rest' -- the leading scorer amoug those Aussie Title contesetants who have yet to race overseas. He is worth the punt, given the alternative would be to use other people's ageing assets. Hopefully on five, but even on seven. Let's hope for your sake he's more Adam Shields than Kurt Shields Edited January 7, 2015 by Shads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emilali Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 A formula you spent most of the year slagging off.... Jake Allen is currently the 'best of the rest' -- the leading scorer amoug those Aussie Title contesetants who have yet to race overseas. He is worth the punt, given the alternative would be to use other people's ageing assets. Hopefully on five, but even on seven. As usual your incorrect, as he isnt 'the best of the rest' as Brodie Waters has more points than him, good effort though spouting more garbage in such a smug manner 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 As usual your incorrect, as he isnt 'the best of the rest' as Brodie Waters has more points than him, good effort though spouting more garbage in such a smug manner Chris "World Class" Harris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Still a definate yes from me on jake, he is indeed the best of the rest. He will only be a 7.00 for 12 meetings then the team can strengthen and kick on with a much needed new asset. More words of wisdom from one of the few universally respected posters on here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spin king Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Still a definate yes from me on jake, he is indeed the best of the rest. He will only be a 7.00 for 12 meetings then the team can strengthen and kick on with a much needed new asset. If Berwick are looking to build an asset base then I think they should go for a punt on the lad, but his proper average won't kick in until he has done 6 home and 6 away meetings, and they have to be League meetings, League cup and KOC fixtures don't count. It could be mid May before his true average kicks in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heedthebaw Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 If Berwick are looking to build an asset base then I think they should go for a punt on the lad, but his proper average won't kick in until he has done 6 home and 6 away meetings, and they have to be League meetings, League cup and KOC fixtures don't count. It could be mid May before his true average kicks in. I think you will find it's 4 home and 4 away to get an average and become an asset these days and League Cup DO count, or at least that was most definitely the case last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted January 8, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 its never too late if the right changes are made Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Kelly 41 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 If Berwick are looking to build an asset base then I think they should go for a punt on the lad, but his proper average won't kick in until he has done 6 home and 6 away meetings, and they have to be League meetings, League cup and KOC fixtures don't count. It could be mid May before his true average kicks in. Rule 16.2.1 confirms applicable matches as Premier League: League Cup mini-League Meetings & regular League Meetings and 16.2.9 confirms the number of fixtures An EL or PL Rider starting the season with an Assessed MA will have a new Established MA upon completing 4 Home and 4 Away fixtures, which becomes effective 7 days after the last qualifying Meeting. Should an Established MA not be achieved in order to be effective from 1st May, then the MC may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the Team redeclares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBSC Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 So now we know its 4 home and 4 away to get an established MA lets get the 4 remaining places filled and finally announce our 2015 team. Jake already has his visa in placesi thats one less hassle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagy1 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 What's the benefit of an asset when he can't get a new work permit if he doesn't hit a 7 in 2 years? In fact what's the benefit of an asset? The benefit of an asset is so your club doesn't get fined for having "too weak" an asset list like Glasgow did last year. The wisdom of the BSPA, fining a club struggling financially. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsunami Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 The benefit of an asset is so your club doesn't get fined for having "too weak" an asset list like Glasgow did last year. The wisdom of the BSPA, fining a club struggling financially. What fine was that. A bond is required with a set level. A club is expected to have an assets value, and if it is short of the bond level, the difference has to be made up with a further sum kept on file. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skidder1 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Rule 16.2.1 confirms applicable matches as Premier League: League Cup mini-League Meetings & regular League Meetings and 16.2.9 confirms the number of fixtures An EL or PL Rider starting the season with an Assessed MA will have a new Established MA upon completing 4 Home and 4 Away fixtures, which becomes effective 7 days after the last qualifying Meeting. Should an Established MA not be achieved in order to be effective from 1st May, then the MC may issue a revised MA, based upon actual rides if the Team redeclares. I take it you are quoting from the 2014 regs or are the 2015 out already?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bjcol Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 well not long now and the team will be in place for the new season in march Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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