Robinh88 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Maybe go with blokes like Allen and Jorgenson get their true averages and makes changes from there.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smod Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Allen has aleady shown he can outpace Kozza, Ryan Douglas, Nelson & co in Australia this year. Seven or five, Berwick should be ensuring he joins them, becoming an asset. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Had the same problems last year, maybe things should be made clearer though. Would be easier if they said it would be a 7.00 average and anything after that would be a bonus, now teams potentially have to think about there line ups. apparently all Aussies should always have been 7 but the bspa changed it to 5... According to another thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penchev Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 apparently all Aussies should always have been 7 but the bspa changed it to 5... According to another thread. Jesus what a farce, worse than the hokey cokey! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Jesus what a farce, worse than the hokey cokey!the bloke who invented the hokey cokey died last week in brazil, it took them 4 days to get him buried as they couldnt get him in the coffin They put his left leg in..... 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Allen has aleady shown he can outpace Kozza, Ryan Douglas, Nelson & co in Australia this year. Seven or five, Berwick should be ensuring he joins them, becoming an asset.Australian results don't mean a lot IMO . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 think its the visa and immigration dept have clamped down, reading between the lines. And about time they did to. I like to see good foreign riders as much as the next fan, but too many times the person is only so-so brought in on an artificially low average at the expense of blooding a brit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Still don't understand Jorgenson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 13, 2014 Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 Still don't understand JorgensonIreally don't understand what you have against him without seeing him perform at Shielfield on a regular basis.He has a PL average over 7 points which is no mean feat IMO .Did he refuse you his autograph last season.!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted December 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2014 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS BEEN SIGNED ON 7.09 AVERAGE? Could this be explained to me please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fromafar Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS BEEN SIGNED ON 7.09 AVERAGE? Could this be explained to me please? THAT IS HIS PL AVERAGE YOU REALLY NEED TO READ THE RULES. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DSC67 Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 why are the promoters running the sport? Independent body One of the recommendations of the Shawcross report from the mid sixties was the establishment of an independent body to run the sport , 50 years later we're still waiting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HadrianDog Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 One of the recommendations of the Shawcross report from the mid sixties was the establishment of an independent body to run the sport , 50 years later we're still wait Vested interests will always be to the fore I am afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeddiechek Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Allen has aleady shown he can outpace Kozza, Ryan Douglas, Nelson & co in Australia this year. Seven or five, Berwick should be ensuring he joins them, becoming an asset. Completely agree. the bloke who invented the hokey cokey died last week in brazil, it took them 4 days to get him buried as they couldnt get him in the coffin They put his left leg in..... More top class humour from Arson Fire Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junior fan Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 apparently all Aussies should always have been 7 but the bspa changed it to 5... According to another thread. Not really sure why the powers are making it so hard for the aussies who have been a staple part of british speedway from the beginning. They normally fully commit to there clubs, live in the country when racing and are part of the commonwealth. In the case of the two new aussies they have more credentials in seniors than the other one coming in on a european passport. They have finished in the top three of a state title, and i fear they may never get the chance again which includes a lot of the young aussies. Junior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robinh88 Posted December 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 spot on, don't think its the bspa though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arson fire Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 Not really sure why the powers are making it so hard for the aussies who have been a staple part of british speedway from the beginning. They normally fully commit to there clubs, live in the country when racing and are part of the commonwealth. In the case of the two new aussies they have more credentials in seniors than the other one coming in on a european passport. They have finished in the top three of a state title, and i fear they may never get the chance again which includes a lot of the young aussies. Junior Think that is bad, try getting a visa to work in Australia, its the most difficult process known to man. If what has been rumoured is true and they have to attain the assesed average with 2 years then its a good thing imo, to get a visa you have or should be near the top of the tree or have the potential to be, Aussies have came over for years on 5 point averages, which is no better than a bog standard second string...which we have plenty of our own. I think 7 is right really... Then its up to promotions to decide if its worth the gamble and also the rider to prove they are good enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodiepatchie Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) Still don't understand Jorgensonreally you've never mentioned it I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS BEEN SIGNED ON 7.09 AVERAGE? Could this be explained to me please? quite simple Robin a rider rides a season an what points he scores are used to calculate his average Edited December 14, 2014 by Goodiepatchie 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YAMYAMBANDIT Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 (edited) think its the visa and immigration dept have clamped down, reading between the lines. They introduced a set of rules to be followed about 2 yrs ago, just the promoters trying to push their luck, and have been caught lacking. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY HE HAS BEEN SIGNED ON 7.09 AVERAGE? Could this be explained to me please? I hope Dave Peat dosn't mind, but he told me he will do welll for Berwick, needed a change of scenery, a bit like Kus. Like you I still am not sure, But I do trust Dave, so hope he is right. Not really sure why the powers are making it so hard for the aussies who have been a staple part of british speedway from the beginning. They normally fully commit to there clubs, live in the country when racing and are part of the commonwealth. In the case of the two new aussies they have more credentials in seniors than the other one coming in on a european passport. They have finished in the top three of a state title, and i fear they may never get the chance again which includes a lot of the young aussies. Junior Austrailia is classed as a foreign country, same as USA, South Africa etc. You cannot have one rule for one foreign country different to another, they must be treated equally. Remember their visa is generally only to ride speedway, and does not permit them to earn any other income from normal employment. The Commonwealth means nothing, other than they used to be part of The British Empire, which hopefully is in our distant past. Austrailia is now an independantly run country, and has no longer anything to do with the UK, except it's history spot on, don't think its the bspa though Yes it is, it's the Promoters trying to fiddle the ruling Edited December 14, 2014 by TOURETTES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spittalbandit Posted December 14, 2014 Report Share Posted December 14, 2014 I would still give allen a try even on 7 .let him find his true average then strenthen if need be. It is possible he could hold his average i for one dont know. For all we know could be better than it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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